Cascades - Disturbing Activity at St Helens & Rainier!!

Great photo justme. I love seeing comparison shots like that. Where did you find them? If you dont mind me asking.

Originally posted by mrsdudara
Great photo justme. I love seeing comparison shots like that. Where did you find them? If you dont mind me asking.

here is the link for the the full page of that Full Page

I have no idea how I found it but I bookmarked it and check it daily-- they seem to update it when the weather is good and they can get some pictures from planes or helicopters. It is a part of the USGS Mt. St. Helen site.

Wow - there's several hours of missing data on every webicorder at PNSN. Wonder what happened?

www.pnsn.org...

looks like everything went down from 5:30 pm the night before thru 8:30 am -- and it seems to be across the board including the other mountains on another webicorder page offered thru that website. I would think they would have backup but maybe there was a power outage at the building where the recordings are kept or a maintainence or something?

What do you guys think?

www.pnsn.org...
www.pnsn.org...
www.pnsn.org...

Well, those look intersting. I was checking out Rainiers cam today and saw something I thought was odd. Would love your opinions on it. It could be absolutly nothing, and probably is........but Im posting it anyway.

Here is a shot of what Rainier usually looks like:




Here is what it looks like now:




Just incase you dont notice it right off.....The trees in the second photo are all thawed out. I have been watching the Rainier cam over a year and have only seen this tree thawed out a hand full of times. It struck me as odd that it is the end of October and they have thawed out. They were frozen less than a week ago. Anyone else find that odd?

[edit on 25-10-2005 by mrsdudara]

I have been checking around and found this picture of Mount Rainier: (it has been a relief to find it and hope it is real live)



[edit on 25-10-2005 by Ptolomeo]

That's actually Mt St Helens, and she looks busy

Ooops, I thought I had Mount Rainier but

What´s that???

Yes, she seems extremely busy... Will check more about it.

Has anyone looked at the activity at Camp muir today. Looks theres quite a bit going on.

Camp Muir

[edit on 25-10-2005 by seattlescott]

hey mrs! can you give the link for the rainier webcam? I have looked for this before and never been able to find it.

Thank you so much (in advance)!

That has been a lucky pic, because I cannot see it again...



Seems volcanic activity is increasing... Have you seen the quake activity at St. Helens?
recentQs

[edit on 25-10-2005 by Ptolomeo]

Here you go val.

Mt. Rainier cam


St. Helens is getting a little exciting.


ok, fixed the link. It is back to being frozen now. I wonder what unfroze everything. That seems really odd especially for this time of year.

[edit on 25-10-2005 by mrsdudara]

[edit on 25-10-2005 by mrsdudara]

Originally posted by Valhall
hey mrs! can you give the link for the rainier webcam? I have looked for this before and never been able to find it.

Thank you so much (in advance)!

Well, I guess I'll share since the other link doesn't seem to work...

Cascade Volcano WebCams

Has the webcam links for the following (and then some):

Brittish Columbia
Mount Meager
Mount Cayley
Mount Garibaldi

Washington
Mount Baker
Glacier Peak
Mount Rainier
Mount Adams
Mount Saint Helens

Oregon
Mount Hood
Mount Jefferson
Mount Washington
Mount Bachelor
Three Sisters
Newberry Volcano
Diamond Peak
Mount Bailey
Mount Thielsen
Mount McLoughlin

California
Medicine Lake Volcano
Mount Shasta

It also includes some in Arizona, Alaska, New Mexico, Hawaii and Mexico.

Thank you all for the information and the links


Mrsdudara, I have checked the Rainier Nordwand Cam and it is just the same way as the pic you posted before... Strange.

It looks like St. Helens is picking up Rainiers voice What is up with that? Surely that cant be right.....can it?


Rainier

St. Helens

It is clear on all the graphs, I just used these two for examples.

Originally posted by mrsdudara
It looks like St. Helens is picking up Rainiers voice

What is up with that? Surely that cant be right.....can it?


Rainier

St. Helens

It is clear on all the graphs, I just used these two for examples.

mrs...

Go back to the beginning of this thread and you will see that this has been my concern all along. That these two volcanoes are connected through a common magma pool. When you are dealing with a thixotropic fluid such as magma some strange things could occur if two volcanos are connected to the same magma pool and one volcano's "plug" was to appreciably move.

I will try to find my various posts on my concerns and my theories and put them in one post as a follow-up.

Very good observation!

Here you go mrs. Here are my theories. Now, I'm just a seismic/volcanic groupie, so my theories are worth what you paid for them (lol), but it is interesting you have noticed the communication between these two volcanoes, so I submit this for your review.

Here is something I theorized on about the thixotropic nature of magma and how things could occur due to the "gel strength" of a magmatic plug:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And then here on page 8 of this thread I explain my concerns about communication between MSH and Rainier:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The problem this could reflect (IMHO) is that there is a wave traveling through a magmatic channel (i.e. same big pot of magma). Now, if MHS were to blow significant enough to have a large resultant magma flow, there could be the chance that a "draw" on Rainier could occur.

Now, in this post that I made many moon ago, I speculated on the thixotropy and gel strength that could possibly come into play in magma columns:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Basically, if you take into account a magma column being "capped" by a thixotropic layer of magma, then what you're looking at is a stopper on top of a pressurized column of fluid. Now, the magma capping this isn't necessarily solid, but has achieved a sufficient gel strength to act semi-solid (read the above post). If a draw-down were to occur below this cap (i.e. some of the molten magma column were to be drawn toward MSH), then a dynamic flow situation would ensue below the cap. The evacuated region would cause an insufficient hydraulic head to maintain the pressurized column below.

So...if the ELP traces we are seeing are indications of communication between MSH and Rainier, I think it's worth keeping an eye on!

[edit on 10-26-2005 by Valhall]

Seth Moran at the U.S. Geological Survey's Cascades Volcano Observatior in Vancouver, Wash (geez thats a long title) came out last year when he was acting up and said:

"It's certainly tempting to think there might be connection," Moran told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "But there's no evidence of any link between the two. ... They have completely separate plumbing systems."

BUT the Native Americans have a lot of legends about the Cascades. The way their legends go, "when the grandfather speaks his granddaughters will answer".....or something along those lines, tells me otherwise.

It is a very good theory. I dont see how you could be wrong with everything we have seen here.

mrsdudara

If you look into the human body, we have a perfect vein system... Do you think veins are connected?

I completely agree with you, mrsdudara, I also think they are connected, if not close, deep under the soil.