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Originally posted by yeti101
danx it does come down to who you want to believe or rather what statement you want to believe.
1947 Mac Brazel description to the roswell daily record " large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks"
or his 1980 accounts of magical materials after marcel came out with his story. Which do you think is more reliable?
Originally posted by Vixion
just woundering but does it say any where on his site that no one has ever properly seen nemesis ?
1947 Mac Brazel description to the roswell daily record " large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks"
Roswell Daily Record, Wednesday, July 9, 1947:
W. W. Brazel, 48, Lincoln county rancher living 30 miles south of Corona, today told his story of finding what the army at first described as a flying disk, but the publicity which attended his find caused him to add that if he ever found anything else short of a bomb, he sure wasn't going to say anything about it.
Brazel was brought here late yesterday by W. E. Whitmore, of radio station KGFL, had his picture taken and gave an interview to the Record and Jason Kellahin, sent here from the Albuquerque bureau of the Associated Press to cover the story. The picture he posed for was sent out over AP telephoto wire sending machine specially set up in the Record office by R. D. Adair, AP wire chief sent here from Albuquerque for the sole purpose of getting out his picture and that of sheriff George Wilcox, to whom Brazel originally gave the information of his find.
Brazel related that on June 14 he and an 8-year old son, Vernon (doesn't say it was his son...), were about 7 or 8 miles from the ranch house of the J. B. Foster ranch, which he operates, when they came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up on rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks.
At the time Brazel was in a hurry to get his round made and he did not pay much attention to it. But he did remark about what he had seen and on July 4 he, his wife, Vernon and a daughter, Betty, age 14, went back to the spot and gathered up quite a bit of the debris.
The next day he first heard about the flying disks, and he wondered if what he had found might be the remnants of one of these.
Monday he came to town to sell some wool and while here he went to see sheriff George Wilcox and "whispered kinda confidential like" that he might have found a flying disk.
Wilcox got in touch with the Roswell Army Air Field and Maj. Jesse A. Marcel and a man in plain clothes accompanied him home, where they picked up the rest of the pieces of the "disk" and went to his home to try to reconstruct it.
According to Brazel they simply could not reconstruct it at all. They tried to make a kite out of it, but could not do that and could not find any way to put it back together so that it could fit.
Then Major Marcel brought it to Roswell and that was the last he heard of it until the story broke that he had found a flying disk.
Brazel said that he did not see it fall from the sky and did not see it before it was torn up, so he did not know the size or shape it might have been, but he thought it might have been about as large as a table top. The balloon which held it up, if that was how it worked, must have been about 12 feet long, he felt, measuring the distance by the size of the room in which he sat. The rubber was smoky gray in color and scattered over an area about 200 yards in diameter.
When the debris was gathered up the tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks made a bundle about three feet long and 7 or 8 inches thick, while the rubber made a bundle about 18 or 20 inches long and about 8 inches thick. In all, he estimated, the entire lot would have weighed maybe five pounds.
There was no sign of any metal in the area which might have been used for an engine and no sign of any propellers of any kind, although at least one paper fin had been glued onto some of the tinfoil.
There were no words to be found anywhere on the instrument, although there were letters on some of the parts. Considerable scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it had been used in the construction.
No strings or wire were to be found but there were some eyelets in the paper to indicate that some sort of attachment may have been used.
Brazel said that he had previously found two weather observation balloons on the ranch, but that what he found this time did not in any way resemble either of these.
"I am sure that what I found was not any weather observation balloon," he said. "But if I find anything else besides a bomb they are going to have a hard time getting me to say anything about it."
Originally posted by yeti101
danx it does come down to who you want to believe or rather what statement you want to believe.
1947 Mac Brazel description to the roswell daily record " large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks"
or his 1980 accounts of magical materials after marcel came out with his story. Which do you think is more reliable?
Originally posted by CaptGizmo
this guy says in his report:
One of the Project Mogul balloon flights crashed near the Roswell Army Air Force base on July 7, 1947. It was recovered by the Army, who issued a press release stating that "flying disks had been recovered." The Roswell Daily Record had headlines the next day: RAAF Captures Flying Saucer.
It was not a flying saucer; it was a complex balloon project that carried flying disks -- microphones to pick up Russian nuclear explosions. The program was highly classified, and the press release said more than the security people considered acceptable, so the next day the press release was "retracted." A new press release stated that what had crashed was a "weather balloon." It wasn't a weather balloon. The US Government was lying.
Funny it was to pickup soviet nuclear test in 1947...when the russians didnt even test thier first nuclear device until august 29, 1949.
Gazrok, what other account did brazel give to the papers that differs so much from the one you just posted?
or are you talking about the military "flying disc" statement? which btw does not say anything about the desciption of the debris.
that all of these witnesses (Brazel, intelligence officers, townsfolk, etc.), for whatever reasons, (as none got rich off this), are lying and somehow came together to make sure their stories all corraborated....
would say most of the 80 witnesses who came forward after 1978 are lying. Did you know that some of them couldnt even tell you what year this event happened? an alien craft crash lands and they cant remember the year? amazing!
And their stories do not corrobarate at all.
but hey everyones entitled to believe what they want about roswell.
Why would the military requisition several "child-sized" caskets
What happened to the nurse who was commandeered t
How come we need so many 2 1/2-ton trucks and several cargo planes to cart away a 'few flimsy pieces of foil" from a 'lighter-than-air balloon?