Absolute, Most Solid Proof..

Please, forgive the one liner....

I watched the video, I called my accountant, and did lots of reading on the subject of the 16th amendment conspiracy.
My feeling is this is bunk.
here is why.
www.irs.gov...
and
evans-legal.com...

If people can claim the 16th amend. is un lawful, and not provide any court rulings that prove it, then it is bunk. We are not talking about NWO we are talking about tax law. I understand that the way people worded documents yesterday may be open to interpretation today, but we have almost 100 years of people following this procedure, and there fore it is impossible to argue something like this so many years after the fact.
Tax protesters basically missed their shot at fighting this amendment.


I think if we can learn anything from this it is we need to act quickly when a law is passed that is unfair. The patriot act comes to mind. It may be to late for that as well.

I think our best hope in changing the country to one that is more in line with the original writing of the constitution, is to elect people into congress, senate and the white house who feel the same way we do. If I were to become president, you can be sure I would call out all the crappy constitution crushing laws and get us back on track to what our founders had envisioned we would be.

What is everybodys "smoking gun," proofwise, not opinion, that you all base your beliefs upon?

For me it is simple. Look at the rights you had pre 9-11 and then look now.
First you have the "patriot act"
en.wikipedia.org...

Originally passed after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Centers in New York, New York; the Act (full text) was formed in response to the terrorist attacks against the United States, and dramatically expanded the authority of American law enforcement for the stated purpose of fighting terrorism in the United States and abroad

6 short years to proof

On March 9, 2007, the US Justice Department released an internal audit that found that the FBI had acted illegally in its use of the USA Patriot Act to secretly obtain personal information about US citizens.

Then you have Hr 1268
www.mkcaf.us...

May 2008, a new driver's license and/or a National ID will be issued (beginning 3 years from date of enactment (signing) according the Act and will incorporate the following items.

Did I,a U.S. citizen, need papers to use federal facilities,board a train,bus or plane before 9-11. Was it U.S. citizens that flew the planes into the wtc?

Then you have S3622 which funds the framesork for the nau.
www.mkcaf.us...

As you can plainly see, the sole purpose of this bill is to "better" the living standard in Mexico as to be comparable with the United States and Canada. Our tax dollars are going to be spent on Mexico's roads, schools (and systems), job training, and to facilitate getting Mexico into the "technology age"

Then you have Hr 3930 Military Commissions Act of 2006
www.mkcaf.us...

This bill authorizes trial by military commission for violations of the law of war, and for other purposes.

And we also have Hr 5122 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007

This bill authorizes the President of the United States to declare Martial Law on the United States of American, and allows the President to bypass the Posse Comitatus Act.

So you see now in the U.S. post 9-11 one can concieveably peacefully protest something, be arrested,held in secret without council,be put through a secret trial and not be shown evidence,then be sent to a detention facility.
None of those laws were in place pre 9-11. Are the laws to protect us from terrorists or protect the terrorists from us?

Not to nitpick dariousg but your external source info states that in 1909 there were 48 states. There were only 46 states. If the guy cannot get basic info like this right, which can be easily found, why should I believe anything he has to say.

www.50states.com...

Hi Axe0312

When you talk about the Big Picture here you are talking about peacing together a very big complex puzzle. There are two very important things that made me know for a fact that I was looking at the True Big Picture.

The first thing is, when you are putting together this complex puzzle you come to a realization that the information you just possessed makes more sense than any of the information that you received throughout your life, from the main stream religions, main stream education, main stream politics and the corrupt media.

The second thing is the most important, Its the Whistle Blowers. They are the best hard evidence that we have. Think about it, these people have had a connection or have been apart of the inside in some form or another. The most important group of Whistle Blowers is the Disclosure Project and Project Camelot. Every single one of these people will confirm what you have read in your research and the reassurances will be the glue that will peace together the Big Complex puzzle. Without these people everything else is just stories.

One last thing, the whole Reptilians taking over the world stuff is one thing that defiantly does not make sense, do not take any of that seriously.

Originally posted by scooler1
Not to nitpick dariousg but your external source info states that in 1909 there were 48 states. There were only 46 states. If the guy cannot get basic info like this right, which can be easily found, why should I believe anything he has to say.

www.50states.com...

If you really look at the document you will realize it is a page written on work by another man. When you look a bit closer you will see clearly that the process was started in 1909 but finished in 1913 just before the new administration came in. So, in 1913 there were 48 states. I understand that a lot of people don't want to know that the government they have been taught to admire from pre-school on has many shady parts to its history.

Granted, there are good people in government. I'm not saying that government as a whole is shady. Just certain power figures that pay their way in or are placed in the positions by people with money. It's unfortunate that it has happened but the facts are out there. The government has completely changed from what the founding fathers wanted to create. It has changed because money has become involved. This amendment in particular allowed for private money to start lending to the government with interest.

What does interest do? Anyone? .......

Well, here is what it does. It creates FREE money for those private investors. Free money to the tune of trillions each year. Money that just comes out of thin air my friends.

For those that think this line of thought is crazy here is a quick and easy way to prove this.

Before this unlawful amendment was passed (well, actually there were a couple other times where private money got involved with our banking system but each time a good president would come along and stop them. Too bad we haven't had one since) the government controlled the money.

Say they allowed for $1,000 (keeping it small and simple) to enter into the country for the people to use. It would remain as $1,000 and no inflation would occur to destroy its value. If the population increased by 5% they could increase it by 5%. However, it would remain at a controllable level.

Now we get this amendment that allowed for the Federal Reserve Act. Now we have a private banking institution that takes over the $1,000 within the country. They control it. The funny thing about the FR act is that the bank is now able to loan out MORE than what they have on hand. ???? Excuse me? How can that be? If they only have $1,000 then they only have it right? Well, the act allows them to keep only 1/10th of what they lend out as cash within their reserves meaning that they have now utilized the credit system for big time money. Now the kicker is that they can charge interest on this money. So, with that $1,000 they can lend out $10,000. They have CREATED $10,000. On top of that let's say they get 10% interest. Now they have created another $1,000 to add to their base of $1,000. This means they have $2,000 and can now lend out $20,000. The interest in now $2,000 and it grows exponentially.

Multiply this by billions and you now see why we have depressions and recessions and massive bouts of inflation.

Anyone think this is a crummy way to do things? Seriously.

Originally posted by Axe0312
Well allow me to throw a twist into the road..

As I've read, it seems to me there there are two differing NWO conspiracy stories..

the first consists of the group of the global elite, who have been so for many hundreds of years, who plan to take over the world by means of their financial muscle...

.. and the other consists of a tale of aliens being the true runners of the planet from their underground Dulce base and that when the NWO will be implemented the truth about aliens will be revealed.

Do these tales collide? Are the rich teaming with the aliens for the NWO? Who are the true leaders?

It's a very good question.

Now let me ask you something. What would be the best way to either hide something or to confuse the issue in order to make it seem unlikely or farfetched?

I'm sure you would answer the same as myself. You create MANY different versions and mix in truth with so much BS that people can't truly believe it.

Just like with 9-11. There is truth in what is being stated by the truth movement. The facts are all there but some people (who knows who) have concocted many other conspiracy issues to try and muddy the waters a bit. So, within all of the labeled 'conspiracy theories' (or the facts that are being ignored) there is a ton of trash that simply confuses matters.

It's simple psychology.

And there are more than just two NWO versions out there than what you have given. Some even say that they have been around for thousands upon thousands of years, not just hundreds. I tend to believe that they have been around for much longer by what is stated in written accounts such as the Bible. Though much of that information has been changed to suit the people that are pushing it you do see that the gold smiths were around then as well and that 'interest' was deemed evil yet it existed. It wouldn't surprise me to find that these are the same groups trying to accomplish the same thing through manipulation.

Then there is the Annunaki (spelling?). A completely different spin in a way. Much older than Dulce.

Well can some one here begin to piece some of this together in some sort of post that can clarify anything? There's so much information and conflicting facts that one can easily get lost into what to believe. You mention the Annunaki, are they the ones attempting the NWO? Anyone, preferably someone with some seniority and tenure, and well, experience, want to piece together a lot of what has been said into a uniforming theory? Anyone?

The guy in the video says Radar was downing the ufo craft.
Anyone know what the plausability of this is?
It would be a great explanation I suppose.
A little far fetched.
Interstellar travel, fighting off the radiation and many other obstacles in space only to be downed by a weak radar signal at our end?
Unless the form and density of their craft somehow changes upon arrival to earth?