Massive Basement Explosion at WTC caught on tape!

I dont know if this has been posted before, it is kind of old. I couldnt find it though.

This is a clip from 'in plane sight'. This is probably the best part of that doc.

This was broadcast once CNN, then never repeated. What you see is a massive pyroclastic flow from the basement of the towers BEFORE they fell!!

This clip is corroborated by scenes from '9/11 eyewitness' from across the river as well as a few others.

Im surprised i dont see people using this clip more.

What is the debunker explanation, somebody farted?

It is the South Tower. This footage was just after the South Tower collapse.

Doesn't it insult your intelligence when people present things like this?

Wasn't your first question: *ARE* BOTH TOWERS STANDING?

Because you can clearly see both towers still standing!

You can see the light between them!

What insults my intelligence is when you make RIDICULOUS CLAIMS like that instead of facing facts!

Originally posted by sp00n1
Because you can clearly see both towers still standing!

No you can't All you can see is the smoke from WTC 1 and a VOID where WTC2 SHOULD be.

You can see the light between them!

What insults my intelligence is when you make RIDICULOUS CLAIMS like that instead of facing facts!

Between THEM? Count "THEM" if you go past ONE...you have failed the test.

That was WTC2 collapsing. That's the reason no one's talking about it. A lot of people think "In Plane Site" was an early attempt at disinfo. All of the points he makes are totally bogus. We've had discussions before where we've taken other photos showing the buildings at about that angle, and comparing ratios between the pixels for each facade in each photo to get the difference between them and all this but it becomes pretty clear that WTC2 is totally missing from where its supposed to be, and you can even see dust rising up from where it was once standing.

There was smoking coming from a basement explosion throughout the day:



The above is taken from frames of live footage from the day.

It was harder to see, but it was right there the whole time. There are photographs taken that show streams rising up the sides of the buildings, too. There are also all of the testimonies to explosions in the basement and lobby, the windows were blown out of the lobby, lower-level elevators were taken out, and people were laying outside of the lobbies on fire.

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I don't understand this video

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I support truth but I'm sorry to say that this video was tricked with.

It has been horizontally stretched to make it appear as if the remaining tower is actually both of them--look at the weird proportions of the video itself in its frame. And it shows the immediate aftermath of the first tower's destruction.

The 'light' between the towers is simply the reflection of the corner cladding.

Sorry but let this one die.

Originally posted by bsbray11
There was smoking coming from a basement explosion throughout the day:

The above is taken from frames of live footage from the day.

It was harder to see, but it was right there the whole time. There are photographs taken that show streams rising up the sides of the buildings, too. There are also all of the testimonies to explosions in the basement and lobby, the windows were blown out of the lobby, lower-level elevators were taken out, and people were laying outside of the lobbies on fire.

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totally, the 'in plane site' claim is totally false, but there certainly was smoke rising from the base of (one of) the buildings and it can be seen in a few videos, the 'Bob and Bri' video shows it rather clearly.



Bob And Bri - what we saw.

video.google.co.uk...

go to 1:53

And yet, NOT ONE member of the PA, NYPD or NYFD has mentioned anything about explosions in the basement or fighting any fires resulting from anything OTHER than flaming jet fuel dropping down the elevator shafts.

Dont you think the NYFD would have noticed and sent hose teams?

Nice try though. Can be deceiving when positioning the camera. Looks like two towers standing but its just one.

There better be smoke coming form the basement. The fireballs shot down the shaft, taking some elevators with them which blew out the doors in the basement and some lower floors doing a lot of damage.

And there are hundreds of reports from people there about this happening. Many people reporting elevator doors blowing out and balls of fire shooting out and breaking glass, etc. People who were in some of the elevators that fell. Even documentaries just on the people in elevators. Gravity still works in these situations.

wow 5 K gallons of jet fuel really makes a lot of things...
I remind you that 20K liters (probably much less) its really a ridiculous amount of jet fuel.
Its 20 cubic meter.... a 3 meter x 3 meter room.
You need to picture it lets say your restroom?

Come on guys use common sense.

A 9x9 square feet room...How in your right state of mind can you believe in what you write?

This image has been correct for aspect ratio from pseudo 16:9 to 4:3 and had the brightness/contrast altered for clarity.

The arrow on the left is pointing at the aerial that is on the North Tower (note that it is centrally positioned on the tower).

The arrow on the right is pointing at the dust/debris from the collapsing South Tower.

The box is outlining the North Tower. The box is correctly centered relative to the aerial.

This camera is located NORTH-WEST of the Towers, looking SOUTH-EAST, *NOT* located WEST of the Towers looking EAST. The towers are built North/South and are off-set at 45 degrees to each other.

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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
And yet, NOT ONE member of the PA, NYPD or NYFD has mentioned anything about explosions in the basement or fighting any fires resulting from anything OTHER than flaming jet fuel dropping down the elevator shafts.

Dont you think the NYFD would have noticed and sent hose teams?

you're wrong.

there was call to 911 regarding explosions in the B4 sublevel. the transcripts between dispatch and personnel are online somewhere. i'm not looking right now, so try researching for yourself instead of just handwaving.

there are NUMEROUS videos and transcripts of firemen, news anchors and witnesss talking about explosions.

looks like maybe you went to the stan tenet school of IGNORE > DENY > COUNTER-ACCUSE.

[edit on 18-3-2007 by billybob]

There are also numerous videos in which oyu can hear the explosions and the resulting dust clouds. I think it is safe to say there is no doubt of explosions occurring. Too many instances of them being recorded.

that is a piece of deceptive trash from the 'IN Plane Site' video. I will leave them the benefit of the doubt but it seems everything from that video is so easily debunked it makes you wonder.

The South Tower collapsed and that is what is causing the white smoke.

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
And yet, NOT ONE member of the PA, NYPD or NYFD has mentioned anything about explosions in the basement or fighting any fires resulting from anything OTHER than flaming jet fuel dropping down the elevator shafts.

Dont you think the NYFD would have noticed and sent hose teams?

I believe this was what billbob was referring to. Some excerpts:

Rich Banaciski -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.

Craig Carlsen -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 8]
I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was

And that's just 2 out of around 50.

I'm a little hazy on this, but I think that scene is the one that got IPS laughed at so much at first. It's of the south tower collapsing, view blocked by the north. People proved this, and it's one of the few things they admitted and changed in the Director's Cut, in fact at the end of it, Von Kleist addresses this specifically as an error to show they CAN catch and correct these (one or twice, not the hundreds needed to be credible) and explains it all.

That said, I've heard reports of people caught in the basement explosion before the towers fell (or was it even before the planes hit?) and BSRay's video seems to show a smaller, whispy cloud from down there anyway, which is interesting...

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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
And yet, NOT ONE member of the PA, NYPD or NYFD has mentioned anything about explosions in the basement or fighting any fires resulting from anything OTHER than flaming jet fuel dropping down the elevator shafts.

Dont you think the NYFD would have noticed and sent hose teams?

Lol, you're wrong. They have reported those things and I've read the reports myself. They were written up by the WTC Task Force team.

You just never hear of them, and erroneously assume that everything you don't know fits your current view of things. Next time, maybe ask, "are there?", rather than, "why aren't there?", unless you really know what you're talking about.

Look through these: graphics8.nytimes.com...

I can't remember any in particular so I'm reading through some now and saving them to mirror later. Also there are transcripts, I don't know where those links are, people saying "explosion on such and such a basement floor", "people trapped on such and such a floor", etc.

Valhall used to post those transcripts, does anybody know where they are now?


Edit: I see billybob already responded to swampfox.

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