Dan Burisch, hoax?

Am I the only person on this thread with synapses still firing?

Jesus Christ, people, wise up.

Regarding the notary: this document means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. There is NO WAY you will be able to verify its authenticity unless you happen to interview the notary listed himself and get him to admit that he notarized this document and that the person who brought it to him was, in fact, Dan Burisch. Until then, what you have is a scanned image of a piece of paper that looks official. Get it?

Regarding the authenticity of Dan Burisch, I've heard the most ridiculous comments in here for his support, ranging from the fact that he is a Christian (so?) to how he's "obviously brilliant". He is? How, exactly? Do you people even have the slightest clue what goes into scientific theory and method? I could do up a video and slap it on YouTube where I spout off a bunch of garbage that sounds like great scientific hypotheses, but it DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

My favorite quote so far, regarding Project Camelot: "Bill and Kerry don't interview liars."

Ah, so we believe the interviewee because we trust the interviewers. Brilliant logic.

Burisch's body language is indicative of someone who is telling the truth. Listen to how prompt and microscopically detailed his answers are. Even if he were lying, he'd have to remember a virtual encyclopedia's worth of info.

I've been trying to follow along with dans story on the project camelot interviews but I keep getting confused.

For all that aren't familiar with Dans tale could somebody please sonopsize it please, because here is what I understand.

The roswell crash was actually a human craft that went back in time to avert a future catastrophe and it crashed. In it was a device that we call the looking glass. A machine that allowed for some sort of time travel. We started messing with the looking glass making things worse for the future humans.

Dan worked with one of these future humans which he calls a J-rod. the future humans come mostly from the time period of about 45k years in the future. these humans live on an alternate time line than we do due to the catastrophe and because of it have moved to zeta reticuli. those who moved to zeta reticuli became the mutated grey's but that they are still humans. just after the catastrophe before it was too late some of the earth humans went to somewhere in the orion constellation to live. they look like nordics and weren't effected by the catastrophe to the degree the zetans were (the zetans stayed too long?)

We are working with the aliens/humans from the zeta (greys) to avert this possible upcoming disaster.

Dan is a biologist specializing in disease? He was brought on to examine a disease or pathogen that the greys/humans from 45K years in the future had accidentally brought. the chemtrails are part of the project to suppress this pathogen?

We use the looking glass as some sort of "star gate" to pass info to the future and vice versa, although not generally people. Although it is possible because he sent a j-rod through a star gate back to the future it came from.

The star gate looks like two poles with a grey curtain like energy bean that is grey in color in between the two polls.

Dan was a member of Maj12.

He was abducted since he was a boy and had another boys (the son of maj12 #1) put into his body for storage. he took on the boys attributes as he grew older, was being prepared since childhood to be a member of the maj12.

Maj 12 told dan to disclose what he knew and then retracted that order to talk after the fact.

Somewhere along the line we have been visited by humans (similar to the greys from 4k years plus ) but from the year 52k in the future. I have no idea what these humans are doing here and he seems to explain the 52's as being pretty much the same as the 45's

So thats what I understand of his story. I am still confused. can somebody please point out where I am misunderstanding his story and where I am right and if there is anything to add.

As for weather he's telling the truth or not...not sure. he responds tp the questions in extreme detail. could be a product of actually knowing what he's talking about or from having a genius IQ and a very vivid and well thought out imagination.

Trying to verify someone's identity via a "paper trail" is absurd when that person was supposedly involved in above top secret programs, operations, organizations, etc. That's like trying to get a credit report on somebody in the federal witness protection program... good luck wit dat. Think about it: it doesn't make sense that a govt operative involved in ultra sensitive activities would have an actual personal history available to JJoe Blow to just google on the internet...

Whether Burisch is legit or not cannot possibly be gleaned from "public record". When it comes to govt programs at the level he claims to have been involved in, you can't possibly know what's real and what's fabricated -- both in terms of what Burisch may fabricate to protect himself and others, AND what the govt may fabricate to protect themselves and their programs. You could have a totally legit, notarized "confession" which is itself fabricated for a purpose. You'll never know just by reading the document. If only it was that simple.

The only way to reasonably support or discount Burisch's claims is to cross-check his references. Throughout his interviews he mentions many names, from associates to mentors, etc. If his references are themselves legit, and they all collectively support Burisch from a character perspective as well as in terms of his claims, then you have 2 possibilities:

1.) He's telling the truth

2.) The whole lot are artful liars to the Nth degree, engaged in a grand, coordinated fraud.

So where's this investigative journalism everybody's talking about? Go... investigate! Go find the doctors and colonels and 3 star generals and get the answer.

George Knapp and UFO Magazine exposed this guy in 2004.

www.ufomag.com...
www.ufowatchdog.com...
www.ufowatchdog.com...

My friends, I think people like dan and other cons thrive is because a lot of people don't know any better and become easy prey to them. The more educated folk can easily detect a fraud. Dan isn't that smart. He's stumbling all over himself the more he talks and the more other people jump in to support his story.

One thing about human beings, you can't argue against their beliefs, what's in their brains which ultimately translates to heartfelt convictions. Some people can believe in Santa Claus their whole lives. Or David Blaine, or Nessie. Belief is a human quality that defines our selves even beyond all reason. Beliefs can unite people and can divide us as well. When there is fear, it renders society vulnerable to those who want to control it. 2012 is a bandwagon, all kinds of opportunists will be on it. Be careful of frauds who claim intelligence, and form your own beliefs well before committing to them for the rest of your lives. Be kind to other people's thoughts, respect them, but seek the truth for yourself. America has gone through a history of deceivers, a culture that has spawned many con-artists. The fact is, people are getting very good at it. With the whole world as a captive audience, the internet has become a breeding ground for brainier frauds. It is not surprising that the next wave of false prophets will come from bloggers.

Many people make it their lifelong dream to be popular and lead their own flock. People want to be noticed, to be popular, to be celebrities, to be important, to be the one. Some people want to be rockstars. For whatever reason or intent, they choose to spend their time influencing others to believe in them. In any society that has class segregations, there will always be someone wanting to be rise above the rest and be amongst those of the higher class, the rich, the celebrities, the important ones. We should trust what we know about ourselves, our nature, our weaknesses, and beware of those who try to take advantage of it.

Learn about yourself and the world around you and use your own logic. If your world happens to have someone like Dan Burisch in it, step back and remember that he is an ordinary human being with his own beliefs, his own wants and needs for a better life. There are many like him. Like you and I. We all share one simple truth: we're only human. We're in this same world and we can leave it anytime. The question is how we want to spend the time that is given to us. You can truly help someone and gain nothing from it, or you can become a charismatic preacher who makes a fortune out of the poor in spirit. Dan made his choice on how he wants to live, you can make yours too.

Human beings should remember to focus on the things that matter. A good heart, a healthy mind and body, a loving family, friends you can trust, respect mother nature... The rest is secondary. Life can be simple if you choose it to be.

Sincerely,

Anonymous

I would take this guy seriously along with others if they could ever produce anything. He worked as a security guard and at a casino or something, if people like this Dan Crane or whatever alias he goes by has done the things he said then he would know people, he would have others to vouch for him. This is the same with Bob Lazar and some others.

Even if a paper trail can be erased you can't erase people from this man's past and education, where is his eduaction where are his class friends his records ,why not simply phone a old work friend or school friend?Then that is done and your story and claims credibility wise in my opinion shoot up and become more credible but there aren't any and sadly there never are with these people if he could just do something so simple as sit with a friend he went to college with or who he worked with just someone or anyone to vouch for him then i would believe him,

That never happens so your just left listening/watching someone with a good imagination really, thats how i see it when i read threads like these people talk so much about paper trails and this and that, all of that isn't necessary proof or taking someone more seriously can be done by people not paper, only there never are any other people its always the same bull#.

Did you all at least read the document?

Did you notest that the name in the document is Burracsh and not Burrisch?

Of course this document is false.
Anyone could do it and post it.

If it is true, it is not valid in court because of the name.

And what about all the others interviewed?
Are all them lying?

Open your eyes.

(sorry my english)

Faked document.

Initials, Signature and Notary were pulled from real documents
that can be found here:

Dan Burisch Affidavit

And the George Knapp rebuttal:
Knapp Flapp

Peace...

I always got the feeling while watching his interviews that he ran with the questions. That you could ask him about information that has been circulating about Area-51/S4, false or not, and he would have taken the bait.

The Dan Burisch story takes a new bizarre turn in that he has changed his name back to Cain and apparently married his partner McDowell. McDowell is now a Cain and so is Burisch! McDowell had recently posted a series of strange videos where she addressed Burisch's ex directly and bragged about using some secret technique to win at cards in Vegas. Apparently McDowell (now Mrs. Cain) is a master of espionage, doctor, and card shark. All she needs is a rock band to be Buckaroo Bonzai

They have posted an advertisement on their eaglesdisobey.net website for a symposium series about "advanced glycoprotein/glycan analysis" for "25 people" in the "biotechnology industry" aimed at the "masters level and above", "referred by their companies, only". I cannot believe that either of these people possesses the training or knowledge to seriously put on such a thing. I suspect that this advertisement is just another episode in their faux-reailty show. What company would actually send anyone to a lecture series hosted by known hoaxers like this? Its got to be a part of their own going hoax fantasy life.

I wonder if there are any laws or government regulations about non-qualified people passing themselves off as micro-biologists charging $450 for a "symposium" on genetic engineering technology or whatever?

I'm not sure what to think about all this. I will say that Dan's story is extraordinary. He seems to be genuine and truthful. Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced that the paradox scenarios he describes; are what they seem. Here are a few possibilities to think about. First, If the "future humans" came back to help us avoid a terrible fate(paradoxes?)...wouldn't they be intelligent enough to realize that going back in time may very well be the reason the events occur in the first place? Secondly, The hoaxes I've read about Dan could have been planted by people who don't want this information to be/become credible. Third, why would MJ12 LET Dan talk as much as he has without stopping him? Fourth, What if Dan THINKS he's telling the truth, but in reality is just regurgitating the implanted information the MJ12 put into him. Fifth, Dan is insane. Sixth, Dan works for the illuminati and is spreading lies to keep the masses confused.
I could go on and on about imaginary scenarios, but that will never help us get any closer to what we want/need to know. The more disinformation we receive, the more difficult the truth will be to tolorate. I hope that Dan isn't insane. I hope that Dan is telling the truth.

reply to post by xmaskx


I disagree, his demeanor comes across straight and honest to my perception. Also his story cross references with other peoples' accounts of the same events. The so called inconsistencies are negligible and can easily be the result of tiredness or bad memory.
Apart from all this, what does he gain from lying?
Nothing he had a strong career with great $$$ why screw it up?

Originally posted by felixq78
reply to post by xmaskx

 

...his demeanor comes across straight and honest to my perception. Also his story cross references with other peoples' accounts of the same events.

That is how confidence men operate. They work hard at coming across as "straight and honest" and what have you. It's their bread and butter.

Originally posted by felixq78
reply to post by xmaskx

 

Apart from all this, what does he gain from lying?
Nothing he had a strong career with great $$$ why screw it up?

What "strong career with great $$$" are you talking about? He was a parole officer and worked casino security in Las Vegas. The rest of it is pure fantasy. This guy was busted years ago. I'm continually surprised that people neglect to do their home work and keep falling for whatever his story is at the moment.

Hello All,

As for Dan?, just don't know. Believe some stuff ie jrod but having trouble with other Dan statements re Iraqi fossils of beam-hardware for other EBE entry to this world/dimension.

Not saying no, just suggesting I'm not convinced of Dan's real motive?

Decoy

Just came across this thread when I googled his name. I was wondering if anyone knows of a thread which separates known fakes from legit sources.

Thanks

on ufowatchdog

reply to post by dntwastetime


We all make errors when speaking of events that occurred years ago. If you have solid evidence about Dan Burisch then lay it out but don't expect us to take you seriously if you're basing criticism on something as subjective as your magical BS meter.
If they exist, tell us where such a device may be purchased but if it's merely a figment of your imagination you're better off leaving it there.

I'm currently exploring the world of dan burisch because i firmly believe some of his info is legit, therefore i want to know where he got it from. i'm having a hard time believing it was from work though... at least now. it's not looking good. not looking good at all. he is close to some info though... gotta be.

that would mean somebody REALLY wants to obscure this crap and we are further from disclosure than we could possibly imagine unless aliens came and told u themselves... cause these guys are seriously covering their ass.

there's enough info to keep you hanging and for some, some of it has a lot of meaning so not only does it give his story meaning but gives dan a motive for wanting to expose this... which only serves to make it more believable if you perceive that unspoken motive than many people might miss.

I realize that these people would naturally be more concerned with nibiru since they hold on to that story, but they are dropping what i see as a very important ball...

that makes it very hard to believe this... but then again, perhaps someone is hijacking and obscuring dans story

i have not yet drawn a final conclusion but my opinion of the matter is not boding well.