Two Year Old & Five Year Old Caught Smoking Pot On Camera

Rich,

I know about this first hand some family friends lost a little one a few years ago to court ordered Ritilan here in Michigan. It was really sad.

I started a thread in regards to it just today.

I would sure appreciate some of your input on the thread, since you have had first hand experience.

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Originally posted by rich1974
Thanks Realtruth!!!

Even though I got dinged twenty points for a one liner, it was worth starting this conversation. Some of the most outraged people about this kid smoking pot are the same ones that seem to think giving a kid ritilan is ok. What a double standard! Ritilan is like coc aine light!

Giving kids drugs is wrong!!!!!!

Downgrade your Beamer and stay home with your kids more, so you don't have to knock the life out of your children with dangerous stimulants.

[edit on 4-3-2007 by Realtruth]

a 2 year old and 5 year old smoking pot lol

atleast it wasnt a cig.

just legalize it already


there i said it.

Originally posted by rich1974
Probably safer than Ritilan.

Well, it really isn't funny.

However, as foolish and stupid as it is for some teens to try to get two toddlers high, as if it were similar to "getting the dog high"; Ritalin(a deadly chemical), although legal, is still much more inhumane than giving a child marijuana.




[edit on 5-3-2007 by Tamahu]

Hi Chissler, I take it you missed my comments so I will ask the question again, how do we balance the moral dillema of allowing drug companies who's sole aim in life if proffit to fill us all, children included with massive amounts of drugs.

Is the outrage because of the age of the children, or what they consummed. Do you know how many people are hooked on legal drugs, how many die, or are suffering because of those drugs.

Goverments allow people to drink and smoke and make billions from it, they know they are drugs, they know people are addicted to them, but they do not care because of the money they make.

They allow drugs to be put in our food, water, in the animals we eat. So who can be righfully outraged at this event, are we not all hypocrites that take and force others to take drugs not quite knowing what harm they can do to us.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Hi Chissler, I take it you missed my comments so I will ask the question again,

Yeah, my apologies on that one. I'll take a stab at it now. Thanks for the follow up.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
how do we balance the moral dillema of allowing drug companies who's sole aim in life if proffit to fill us all, children included with massive amounts of drugs.

See, I am in no position to offer a valid argument on this. I understand they are in a blatant position of bias, but some of their medication does help. In the same breath, I am overtly against most of the medications that we pump into young children. While I am not openly advocating my stance in this thread, it should not be any indication of my overall feelings.

The pharmaceutical industry really has nothing to do with this topic at hand, in my opinion. It is a weak argument at best. Teenagers gave a two year old child Marijuana? What? Oh Well! Doctors prescribe them Ritalin! What kind of excuse is that? ...Weak.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Is the outrage because of the age of the children, or what they consummed. Do you know how many people are hooked on legal drugs, how many die, or are suffering because of those drugs.

I am glad you ask that. I am not outraged over the extremity of their age, and I am not outraged over the substance. Assumptions of myself will leave you with a misguided impression. My problem is that the teenagers would force it onto anyone else. If you want to do it, then do it. There is no need to pressure others into taking part in our own habits. Also, I am very frustrated with the mother in this story. More so the mother than anything really. Thank you for asking and not assuming.

As for the, how many people are hooked on legal drugs, it has nothing to do with this topic. If you look through the boards for some of my post's, you will see that I agree, and that I post quite frequently on the subject. But, in this thread, it has nothing to do with the subject.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Goverments allow people to drink and smoke and make billions from it, they know they are drugs, they know people are addicted to them, but they do not care because of the money they make.

They allow drugs to be put in our food, water, in the animals we eat. So who can be righfully outraged at this event, are we not all hypocrites that take and force others to take drugs not quite knowing what harm they can do to us.

So what? What does any of this have to do with the subject at hand?

From what I can see? You guys are looking for any thread to use as a platform for your views on this matter. It really has nothing to do with the situation at hand, yet you guys continue to press it.

Why?

Seems like, as the pharmaceutical companies, you guys have an agenda.

I mean.. look at some of these posts.

If your outraged over this pot smoking kid, we need your energy, please redirect your efforts to the millions of kids without health insurance, some who have come to a premature death, due to lack of funds. Thats an outrage!!!

Downgrade your Beamer and stay home with your kids more, so you don't have to knock the life out of your children with dangerous stimulants.

Maybe if people in america would stop spending so much on BMW's we could have classrooms with less than fourty people, and there would be no need to drug children.

Like....

Beamers, class sizes, heath insurance.. ? What does any of this have to do with anything? This thread is being used as a platform to vent your frustrations with the system.

None of this has anything to do with the situation at hand.

Who is the problem here? The Mother!

Who is the problem here? The Mother!

Agreed. I still feel anger towards the teens who coerced/persuaded these children to do it and hope they get what they deserve.

Without the complete details of the circumstances, it's very easy on face value to judge the parent(s) and I know that's what I'm doing. At the same time, for a mother to allow a 2 and 4yr old to be in a position where they could be exposed to something like this is beyond belief.

We don't live in a safe society. Even adults are at risk walking down the street and have to have some measure of awareness of the dangers around them and an adult perspective to fully appreciate what could happen. I can't bring to mind any viable reason why children so young were allowed out of the sight of their mother. Very sad.

Grey

Hi Chissler, No the mother is not too blame it is the society that we live in that is the cause of these problems, thats the point I was trying to make. Double standards abound, mixed messages are purposely sent out all the time. People are looking at this event as if it is isolated from everything else when it is not.

Simply put you have a culture where drug taking legal or not is the norm, how does one decide when its right to take one drug or another. If a parent takes a 2 year old to be vacinated can the parent safely say that its safe to subject her child to those drugs, you dont know how safe they are, you put your trust in the system but at the end of the day you still have 2 year olds on drugs. You can argue the semantics of this but the its the same thing at the end of the day.

The only difference is legal and illegal. If the Goverment said it was beneficial for children to smoke pot and made it legal you still have a right as a parent to exercise choice.

OMG. 2 and 5. Talk about innocence corrupted. Look, I'm no saint. I've inhaled more of that stuff than I care to admit. But to corrupt a 2 year old and a five year old?
DISGUSTING PIGS. I hope that the charges against the teens that did this are the largest that law can allow.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Aparently the two year was called Bush and the 5 year old was called Cheney.

This is Very Serious!

Noone know what that # might do to such young children. At that age, the brain is still developing. These Pot heads might have set these boys up for a life time of Health , Learning, and Behavioral PROBLEMS they can't outgrow.

I disappointed if you can't see that your cheap and sick humor isn't called for. That was a very childish cheep shot!

Tim

Hello Ghost, I take it you did not read my other posts, but just decided to chip in, you and many others have missed the point. I have already stated here that we live in a drug culture, from babies to presidents, legal or illegal the norm is to take drugs, lots of them so yes it is serious but not in the way you think it is.

The moral argument is do we accept that we use drugs not really knowing the longterm effect they will have, whilst we happily allow our children to be filled with these legal drugs we fein shock and horror at events like this.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Hello Ghost, I take it you did not read my other posts, but just decided to chip in, you and many others have missed the point.

Yes, I read them. I see the point you are out to make, but given the circumstances, it's not very relivent to the issue at hand.

The moral argument is do we accept that we use drugs not really knowing the longterm effect they will have, whilst we happily allow our children to be filled with these legal drugs we fein shock and horror at events like this.

Nice try! However, you seem to have forgotten that some drugs are more dangerous then others. While not fully understood, the drugs used to treat medical conditions are expected to undergo certine standards of manufacturing and testing before they are avalible for general use.

Also, the Drugs at your local pharmacy come with Dosing Instructions according to the size, weight, and age of the patient tacking them.

You can't compare an FDA approved medication, with dosing instructions written be a medical doctor, to smoking a plant grown in someone's basement to hide it from the police.

Tim

[edit on 3/5/2007 by Ghost01]

Death by Doctors medications yearly in USA 100,000 people plus.

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Death by Doctors bad hand writing for prescriptions. 7000 people

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Death of people in the USA due to illegal drugs 17,000 per year, alcohol consumption 85,000


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This is the problem with the pot heads of the world.

The will find anything funny.



[edit on 5-3-2007 by Royal76]

Hi Ghost, Yes you are right at pointing out the obvious, but man has been using all types of natural herbs/drugs for thousands of years and millions still rely on and use other forms of drugs rather than using mainstream sources.

Are you saying if the illegal drugs were made legal therefore it would be ok to use them.

Originally posted by Royal76
:bnghd::bnghd::bnghd:

This is the problem with the pot heads of the world.

The will find anything funny.



[edit on 5-3-2007 by Royal76]

What a load of crap. So let me get this right, because of a few idiots, everyone else should be judged because of them?

Pffft.

I think you're missing O'Reilly Factor, the no spin zone.

ps: Yet you say not all Texans are like this, how about, Not All Adults are like this.

Some of us can some how manage to be responsible and use a vice of our choice rather it be nicotine, thc, alcohol or whatever floats your goat, all without including children!

Here are some random smiles to help you understand:



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[edit on 5-3-2007 by Lysergic]

Who are u calling idiots, people have different points of view, you may not agree with them but that dose not mean they are idiots or give you the right to call them so.

Who are u calling idiots, people have different points of view, you may not agree with them but that dose not mean they are idiots or give you the right to call them so.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Who are u calling idiots, people have different points of view, you may not agree with them but that dose not mean they are idiots or give you the right to call them so.

The idiots who made the video obviously, HOW are they idiots you might ask?

Well for one, they got caught.

Sorry ly I thought you were referring to some members comments, obviously the people who recorded the act are not that bright, but then again people are filming all sorts of things arent they.

Yup, I don't feel sorry for them, fairly stupid to get the children high in the first place, but they had to go to the next level of stupidity and record it, so that they could be caught....


Some real rocket scientists.

Kinda reminds me of when some kids, years ago recorded themselves shooting people with paintball guns, and breaking into houses and trashing them.

Not all that great of an idea.