Hillary's (suppressed) College Thesis

Now this is kind of interesting. And it shows to what lengths Hillary and Bill Clinton will conspire in an attempt to hide past history that they're afraid might come back to haunt them. In this case, Hillary's alma mater was pressured into making her senior thesis "unavailable" to anyone. Why was this done? According to the article, the thesis was about a communist activist and his tactics. The really strange thing, though, is the article also says that Hillary was president of Wellesley College's Young Republicans!

Hillary's (suppressed) College Thesis

My bolding added for emphasis

... a “Rosetta Stone,” in the words of one, that would allow readers to decode the thinking of the former first lady and 2008 presidential candidate.

Wellesley's president, Nannerl Overholser Keohane, approved a broad rule with a specific application: The senior thesis of every Wellesley alumna is available in the college archives for anyone to read -- except for those written by either a "president or first lady of the United States." So far, that action has sealed precisely one document: Hillary Rodham’s senior honors thesis in political science, entitled " ‘There Is Only the Fight...’: An Analysis of the Alinsky Model."

Many authors on the long shelf of unsympathetic Clinton biographies have envisioned the thesis as evidence of Marxist or socialist views held by young Hillary — or conversely as proof of her political agnosticism, a lack of any ideology besides a brutal willingness to attack opponents and accumulate power in the Alinsky style.

Wow! That last part is pretty scary when you think she wants to be president. Pure, naked ambition and the ends justify the means. Well, we've already seen all that in action with the Clinton's, now haven't we with a trail of dead people leading from Arkansas to the White House. Stand by for more ...

Anyway, dems, prepare to circle the wagons on this one. Hillary is going to need all the defense you can muster.



[edit on 3/2/2007 by centurion1211]

There's an interesting book (Fiction) called Total War 2006 that says something about the first woman US President becomes so only by switching parties from Dem to Rep...

I wonder is this possible? Would it aid Hillary?

just wondering, but what do her opinions from 1969 matter in 2007?

would you blame a politician for calling girls "poopy heads" when they're 8?

this is just ridiculous

Condie Rice studied communist soviet politics in graduate school, which is a heck of a lot more involved than writting an undergraduate thesis. Does that make her a communist in disguise?

the article also says that Hillary was president of Wellesley College's Young Republicans!

Seems to show that she's not a commited, life long leftist democrat. Lots of people aren't, lots of people have different politics when they're mature adults from when they are college kids.

Hopefully she hasn't picked up too many of Alinsky's tacits:

One of his threatened “actions,” to unsettle the upper-crust audience at the Rochester symphony, was to have protesters buy 300 to 400 tickets, but first to gather for a big baked-bean dinner. He called the idea a "fart-in."

It also looks like, from the article, that Clinton picked Alinsky as the topic of her thesis because, back when she was a teenager and a regular repbulican, she met him at a church outing. Then when she was looking to do her undergraduate thesis, she picked Alinsky to study. Seems innocent enough.

It also looks like the thesis wasn't some advertisement for Alinsky, or propaganda for him, rather it was critical of him:

In formal academic language, Rodham offered a “perspective” or muted critique on Alinsky's methods, sometimes leaving unclear whether she was quoting his critics or stating her own opinion. She cited scholars who claimed that Alinsky's small gains actually delayed attainment of bigger goals for the poor and minorities.

Anyway, what was Bush's senior thesis on? Or anyone elses? Do we really care?

[edit on 2-3-2007 by Nygdan]

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
just wondering, but what do her opinions from 1969 matter in 2007?

would you blame a politician for calling girls "poopy heads" when they're 8?

this is just ridiculous

Uh, why don't you ask Trent Lott that question. Didn't he have to resign from his senate leadership post due to statements he made in the past?

Makes you think, what did you guy express as you make out your book
reports in high school.

What if that was held against you.

Reminds me of and old joke, ok Jessica Simpson.

Going word for word in a book is boring and calls for personal opinions,
what did you write about JFK or Lenin in book reports.

Eeeeoooowww. That might be interesting.

Wow, read the rest of that link, she is one tough cookie.
Some of girls were out to expose "the ends justify the means"
politics, if that what they were driving at.
One against her died the 911 terror attack.




[edit on 3/2/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

Well, for one, I didn't know back in high school that I was going to go after high political office like Hillary seems to have known.

And it's not Hillary is the first politician to have their prior works screened. I mentioned Lott. What about the recent nominees for Supreme Court Justice. They were roasted over a large fire, and Hillary was one of the senators 'handling the gas controls'. Translation: she should know this kind of thing is coming and expect to have to deal with it.

Actually, the article shows that Hillary did anticipate this very thing happening, and that's why she got her college to suppress her thesis.

[edit on 3/2/2007 by centurion1211]

just out of interest can a US politician 'change parties' from say Dem to Rep?

It happens fairly often in the UK for example where an MP defects from one party to another.

Originally posted by kickoutthejams
just out of interest can a US politician 'change parties' from say Dem to Rep?

It happens fairly often in the UK for example where an MP defects from one party to another.

I can happen, but it is very rarely done. I'm guessing because of all the money and other favors it takes to get elected here.

Originally posted by kickoutthejams
just out of interest can a US politician 'change parties' from say Dem to Rep?

It happens fairly often in the UK for example where an MP defects from one party to another.

In New York State or more New York City which controls the state
a number of switches did happen.

One is people from out of state being a resident just to run like
Robert Kennedy and Hillery. Some mayors may have switched
or put on airs to lure a majority.. perhaps Rudy Giuliani and Koch.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Uh, why don't you ask Trent Lott that question. Didn't he have to resign from his senate leadership post due to statements he made in the past?

Lott had to resign because he said 'gosh it'd be great if this country had been run by a anti-segregationist' It wasn't in the past it was while he was in office! He was forced out, correctly, shortly after it.

just out of interest can a US politician 'change parties' from say Dem to Rep?

Of course. Its up to them who to caucus with, even after being elected in under a party ticket.

TeslaandLyne
Some mayors may have switched
or put on airs to lure a majority.. perhaps Rudy Giuliani and Koch.

When did either of them switch parties, let alone switch parties after being elected???

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by centurion1211
Uh, why don't you ask Trent Lott that question. Didn't he have to resign from his senate leadership post due to statements he made in the past?

Lott had to resign because he said 'gosh it'd be great if this country had been run by a anti-segregationist' It wasn't in the past it was while he was in office! He was forced out, correctly, shortly after it.

So, what has happened to all the people - past and present - that have supported ex-KKK (maybe ex) and current democrat senator Byrd?

That's right, nada!

Warning! Double standard being exposed ...

Interesting post although I dont think it matters since Hillary will not be president. We are not ready as a country to have a female prez yet and expecially Hillary.

America is not ready for a woman president that is a pure communist. I could care less what makeup the person is as long as it is good for the country. I for one want to keep my weapons and I don't want to wait six months to get a damn MRI if I need one. I don't want the socialist midset of our northern neighbors. This woman is the most dangerous scenario since Nero.

Isn't it funny that this, along with Al Gore's household power consumption rating and Obama's white, slaveholding ancestry are only being announced as U.S election times draw near, Centurion?

Originally posted by centurion1211
Warning! Double standard being exposed ...

Oh the hypocrisy

Ah well, when the 'lefties' on ATS expose Republican controversies in the coming months the shoe will be on the other foot, so to speak.

Anyway all I've got to say is that she was in college for God's sake!
Do you think that most of the Republican politicians were conservatives in their college years?

shai hulud
This woman is the most dangerous scenario since Nero.

With the exception that Nero wasn't 'elected' into office, was a (supposedly) tyrannical madman...

Ok, off the wall but ...

After reading the article, I had the sense that Hillary saw Alinsky's qualities in Bill Clinton and that's how they became partners and life-long lovers of political affairs in the interests of the people they serve.

Awww, it's just an undergraduate thesis, you really can't put much weight on it. Now if she did a whole lot of coc aine and got arrested for drunk driving, that would be really damaging to her political career.

quote: TeslaandLyne
Some mayors may have switched
or put on airs to lure a majority.. perhaps Rudy Giuliani and Koch.

When did either of them switch parties, let alone switch parties after being elected???

I carefully worded put on on airs, did not say switched but still might
find an example. I think Rudy Giuliani a Republican
acted like a more liberal than conservative, basic
New York Republican tactic to attract more Democratic vote.

It a subjective thing, to me only perhaps, no I do not
have a solid example of a switch.

Koch was popular and might have been able switch back and forth
at will to get backing because he just knew he would win.

I'm still thinking someone was registered in another party and did switch
in order to run for elected office.

I think President Grover Cleveland was elected twice under different
parties, or tried a second time under his own party and lost.

Clinton, the man, served only one term. He might be back as a
Republican. To save the party who know what can happen.

This Clinton undergrad thesis reminds me of the issue with Newt Gingrich having written a 'bill proposal' as an exercise in some college political class, where he worked out how a space colony would properly join the union.

Funny, but practical, and I don't think it can be held against him anymore than CLinton having written a detailed thesis on a political figure can be held against her.

Who would have thought? A bunch of ATS'ers posting heating comments about something they have never read. What a shocker.