Candidate Declaration: iori_komei, Socialist

That last chart quite literally had to be designed by a moron with no clue about politics whatsoever. The labels are completely incorrect. Democrat and Republican don't belong where they are, for one. They're more broad than that, too. "Capitalist" has no place there, it's idiotic even to have it as a label on that kind of chart. There's no such thing as a "centrist." At the very end of where the socialist bar is should be the communist bar. Additionally, "socialist" should extend all the way to the left, since it's so vague and only refers to economics, not freedom. "Totalitarian" doesn't mean a thing, where it's listed is actually populism. Republican should be much further to the right, too, about where the right half of "capitalist" is and into most of "libertarian" (though this chart, again, is all wrong).

The archaic left-right scale is hardly a good way to measure the sociopolitical spectrum
and therefore there's no reason that it sh/would be used in a multiple point spectrum.


Seriously though, don't YOU have something better to do than nitpick and insult the
majority of things on this thread.

The two-dimensional spectrum isn't too bad, but mislabeling it (like the skewered chart you posted) is.

What I do with my time is none of your business.

Originally posted by Johnmike
What I do with my time is none of your business.

Than don't say things like this.

Originally posted by Johnmike
Surely you have better things to do than to spam it at us.

Because of the atrocious actions and sociopolitical actions taken by several countries
in the last few decades, several of which the United States openly trades with,
therefore if/when I am elected I will halt trade between the United States and these
countries and place embargo's on them.

The list of countries includes;

Jamaica
Malaysia
PRChina (Though not all at once, so that our economy does'nt fail.)
Saudi Arabia (Though I'd do something like with PRChina, while encouraging
alternative energy/fuel.)


Further more I intend to look into more countries and take similar actions to countries
that I (and most civilized people) find to be violating human rights at an alarming
rate (if I did it for every country that did, in any degree, we would only have trade
relations with 7 countries), and will seek international embargo's as well.


These trade embargo's will be meant to act as incentives to the countries they are placed
on to respect human rights and/or become more free and democratic.



note:
I think I've said something before, so this is mroe or less expanding on it.

Yet another chart!
(I know you just love them [/sarcasm])

This one comes from a political simulation game that I've been playing the last two weeks.

The chart is based off of in-game decisions and votes on bills.

Regarding all the posts about accounting, Iori is running for president not treasurer, lets just keep in mind without the exact numbers on every income and expenditure of the current government, and a lot of time to sit, read through it all and plan a budget based on the proposals Iori has set it is near impossible to present any accurate information on the exact numbers of where money will come from, how much and where it will all go.


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(keep in mind everything below are just my thoughts on how this could be worked out, it shouldn't be used to base your vote for or against Iori)

housing, feeding and educating all the homeless in the US may not be as big a challenge as it seams, starting costs are the big hurdle, it costs a lot of money to building building, especially buildings to house 1000 people. However the main running costs are going to be electricity, food and maintainance, not much else comes into it. Education for example is already provided in a lot of places for free, i dont know all the details for the US, but using examples from the UK there are numerous places which already provide by-weekly or weekly help from professional teachers for free or little cost, integrating this into Iori's project for the homeless would not take a lot of effort.

These facility's could also be a central area to allow these people to get jobs and earn money, which is the whole point of the project isnt it? Currently homeless generally cant get jobs because the need a bank account and to get a bank account you need an address yet they cant get a place to stay because they need a job in the first place. With these facility's giving them somewhere to stay they can get themselves a job and in turn eventually allow them to get there own place instead of relying on government provided homes.

I wont touch on any specific details on how much it would cost but I think $5000 per head is not unreasonable.

Teachers are already provided (for the most part), not to mention they don't need to go to these sessions, they could easily enroll in school or college.
Cleaning is already provided by local councils, it may mean a couple more jobs but the infrastructure for all that should already be there.
Maintainance is already provided by the local council's, again it may mean one extra wage but the infrastructure it there, its simply one extra government building.

Food, energy, staff & clothing (for newcomers, or if they dont yet have a job) are the main expenditures.

Upkeep would not be that high an expenditure, its a few extra bottle of bleach a week, a bog roll per person (until the need a new one), two sets of basic cloths (until they get a job), etc.

Things like books, computers, exersize equipment can all be acquired from recycling centers, not thats there even any need as theres always plenty of libraries, jym's, etc.

Hope you don't mind my input Iori, correct anything if its not the direction your going with it.

No, I don't mind, it's nice to have constructive help and opinions in such matters.

And all that you've said could be fitted into the project in some way, however
we don't have councils, so I'm not sure how that would change things.

Ye, im not sure how it works in the US. In the UK the contry(s) are divided up into smaller areas maintained and governed (to an extent) by the council to that area, so for example I live in the strathclyde area, and withing the renfrewshire area which is maintained by the renfrewshire council, so there responsible for most things in there area, and get to spend the money for the area which its needed most. I would assume states in the US have something similar, where the state is split up into smaller manageable areas and managed by a local body to that area.

States are split into counties, and that's basically the smallest form of government,
excluding city governments, that really exists.

For instance, where I live, from country down is;
United States>Washington state>Snohomish county>City of Everett.


I think though that we're talking about the same thing, just with different names though.

[edit on 8/13/2007 by iori_komei]

Yes that would be the equivalent of what im talking about.

In the UK although not very extensive we already have places the homeless can go, there are jobs (though very crap jobs) the homeless can do, though I only know of one, the big issue which is a street newspaper thats sold by the homeless.

I've got another graph/chart produced after taking a political spectrum test.

Question:

How can you claim to support freedom while supporting and suggesting policies which would produce confiscatory tax rates upon the average citizen? Freedom does not mean you work your butt off only to have the government take a majority of your earnings.

Originally posted by slackerwire
Question:

How can you claim to support freedom while supporting and suggesting policies which would produce confiscatory tax rates upon the average citizen? Freedom does not mean you work your butt off only to have the government take a majority of your earnings.

I support social freedom and economic equality.

Originally posted by slackerwire
Question:

How can you claim to support freedom while supporting and suggesting policies which would produce confiscatory tax rates upon the average citizen? Freedom does not mean you work your butt off only to have the government take a majority of your earnings.

When you look at the taxation plans it does look like a lot, but when it comes down to it your not going to make a few million a year, lets be realistic here, you not, in fact very few at all on this board will.

When the lower scale of taxes isnt a great deal, theres numerous contries in Europe with tax above 50% in most brackets.

The proposed tax system by Iori is a little above average up untill 50% here in the UK which in all honest isnt that bad, considering the average wage is around $40k-80k a year (again UK figures sorry) the average person will only be taxed 25-40%.

Of course im being selfish in not considering those few who do make the millions every year but when it comes down to it if someone is making 3+ million personally what on Earth are they doing with it? it goes in a bank or they spend the majority of it in other contires, in fact.. this is for another topic but what the hell do you spend 3million a year on?


Iori I have another question, I don't believe you have mentioned business tax have you?(i should probably re-read the thread) have you any ideas how how you may change the current system (if at all) and if you do wish to change it what incentives are there for business to continue or to start there business in the US?

Originally posted by slackerwire
Question:

How can you claim to support freedom while supporting and suggesting policies which would produce confiscatory tax rates upon the average citizen? Freedom does not mean you work your butt off only to have the government take a majority of your earnings.

He wants to redistribute wealth and spend a massive portion of your money for you. Whether or not that's bad, you decide.

Originally posted by Edn
Iori I have another question, I don't believe you have mentioned business tax have you?(i should probably re-read the thread) have you any ideas how how you may change the current system (if at all) and if you do wish to change it what incentives are there for business to continue or to start there business in the US?

You know I did'nt even think to mention business taxes, thanks for reminding me.

I have'nt worked out all complex system for corporations, but I would put an end to
'corporate welfare' and reduce many of the tax cuts big businesses get that they should'nt be.

I would introduce tax cuts for companies that are any of the following; environmentally
friendly, practice workplace democracy, operate at least 30% of there business/jobs
in America, put social responsibility ahead of profits, in other words not operating
a factory in a a country with good working standards rather than somewhere
like PRChina that has poor standards and virtual slave labor.

I'd also introduce tax breaks for small companies to help them get enough of a foothold
in the market to be able to be successful.

Originally posted by Johnmike
He wants to redistribute wealth and spend a massive portion of your money for you. Whether or not that's bad, you decide.

The redistribution of wealth yes, but I really don't care what people spend there money
on and would not tell people they can't buy something.

Originally posted by iori_komei



I support social freedom and economic equality.

Social freedom meaning one can do whatever they want and stick someone else with the bill?

Economic equality - I work my ass off so some unmotivated loser gets a piece of my paycheck.

That sound about right?

Originally posted by iori_komei


The redistribution of wealth yes,

Are you serious? Fortunately for those of us in the U.S., such a terrible idea is Unconstitutional.