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Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Dear CameronFox:
For once I agree with you. I advise that everyone watch the YouTube video deltaboy posted earlier. Nothing supports the validity of >>Why There Were No Helicopter Rescues At The WTC’s On 9-11
Not sure if you're just trying to get people to respond so you can get more points...I for one will just sit back and LAUGH at you ...as so many in here do.
Originally posted by St Udio
the roof doors are made to keep people from accessing the roof area
Originally posted by deessell
Not sure if you're just trying to get people to respond so you can get more points...I for one will just sit back and LAUGH at you ...as so many in here do.
Personally, I believe that this statement is more of a reflection of the way that your mind works, rather than a reflection on the Wizard!
[edit on 25-2-2007 by deessell]
[edit on 25-2-2007 by deessell]
9:52 a.m.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha."
"Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."
Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?"
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post."
Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."
Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way."
Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Dear CameronFox:
Thanks for printing up a more complete version of the radio communication with chief Orio Palmer. You may have missed the importance of the fire brigade’s arrival at the 78th floor. I. e. they were about to enter the “crime scene”. This is why they needed to be silenced, but quickly.
And, the woodstove is supposed to illustrate that no matter how blazingly hot the fires might have been burning (which they visibly weren’t), it would have had no effect on the structural integrity of the buildings.
As always, good to hear from you!
Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods
Originally posted by DamoclesWizard: ive stated many times that i spent 5 years as a combat engineer which is where i got most of my explosives training. however ive also posted that i spent an additional 5 years as a chem bio defense guy (NBC NCO to you military types 54B) and ive used these smoke generators you speak of. its part of a NBC specialists training.
the smoke machines are roughly the size of a U-Haul trailer ... so you are suggesting that a machine the size of a trailer was placed on an upper floor of the wtc without anyone noticing?...
another point on the smoke machines is that they generate white smoke. not sure how that fits with your theories but its true.
And much has been made of the fact that a police helicopter radioed a warning at 10:07 a.m. on 9/11, shortly after the collapse of the south tower, a warning that the north tower was in imminent danger of collapse. The New York Times, in one of a series of in-depth stories based on Oral History interviews of rescue workers that the newspaper was able to obtain, led its account with the warning from the NYPD helicopter shortly after the south tower fell and 21 minutes before the second building came down. The Times estimated there were 121 firefighters still in the north tower, none of whom heard the police radio warning and all of whom died.
The police helicopter warning has become the focus of all the What Went Wrong stories since. But in the same July 7 story, down in the middle of its massive account, The Times reported that a high-ranking chief of the FDNY radioed an evacuation order to all firefighters in the north tower at 9:32 a.m., after he felt the building move and saw the structure buckling and the windows breaking all around him in the lobby. That was 27 minutes before the south tower fell, 35 minutes before the police helicopter warning that the north tower was certain to go, and a full 56 minutes before the north tower collapsed.
But hundreds of firefighters in the floors above never heard the Staff Chief’s radio command on their own radios, nor did they hear any of the frantic calls to evacuate that followed. And with 27 minutes still left before the first collapse, no one in the south tower heard his evacuation order either. The FDNY radios, the same ones that failed at the WTC in 1993, failed again at the same place eight years later. They couldn’t be heard on the floors above, they couldn’t be heard on the floors below, and they couldn’t be heard from one WTC lobby to the other. The Times has unintentionally done history a disservice with its emphasis on a 10:07 a.m. radio warning from a police helicopter. The emphasis should have been on a 9:32 a.m. order by Staff Chief Joseph Callan to his firefighters to "come down to the lobby, everyone down to the lobby." No one knows how many more times the Fire Department lobby command center repeated those evacuation orders on their worthless, useless radios that morning. We only know that too many firefighters on the floors above never heard the commands.
Originally posted by esdad71
Can you give a REAL explanation why it is drivel? I mean, you do know how it punches holes in the "official" story and how it actually explains that this people are real, and not some CIA fantasy?