Film to document discovery of Jesus' burial site

New film documents discovery of Jerusalem cave containing ten caskets believed to hold remains of Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene and others

A new film by award-winning directors will discuss a 30 year old discovery of a tomb near Jerusalem which is purported to be the burial site of Jesus and his family. A couple of the caskets are to be unveiled Monday at an event in NYC. See article.


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I read about this earlier and think alot of people are going to be unhappy. I know sceptics are going to say why keep the findings so long before going public? My opinion, with something as enormous as this..they had to be sure.
As for Jesus's casket and remains..It will set some born again Christians wild and shatter the Christian world but again in my opinion. I don't care whether his body is found or not. I personally feel that part of the story is just a side note to the whole meaning of his existence. All I care about is trying to live by the moral rules that he was killed for.
His remains being found beside those of Mary Magdalene will set the world alight---again!
At age 13, I was at convent school and during religion with Sr Mary Claire, I asked did Jesus love Mary Magdalene? I got belted for that simple question.."Jesus loved no other woman than his mother." was the reply.
I wish Sr Mary Claire was alive today to face this controversy. Especially since she is a "bride of christ"
If a 13 year old can pick up on a love story in the bible. Why can't anyone else?

um, i can't find it in the article, so i'll just ask

how the hell did they come to the conclusion that the tomb was related to these biblical figures?

Luke 17:23-24
"Men will tell you, 'there he is!' or 'here he is!' Do not go running after them. For the Son of Man in His day will be like lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other"

Matthew 24:23
"...if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'there He is!', do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great miracles and signs, to deceive even the elect-if that were possible"

I believe if I am not mistaken that this comes after the coffin found and supposedly been of Jesus brother prove to be a hoax . . .

The problem with the new findings are . . . that they are part of a new media propaganda to attract tourist and believers to visit the site that happen to be in Israel.

The claims that they may be Jesus and family can not be prove just by inscriptions on the coffins . . .

DNA test can not be done because until this day is not descendants of Jesus to be found . . .

The Christian community is very angry about the claims because it takes away the believes of a resurrection and put Jesus as just a simple human being.

I still think is interesting. . . but no believable, because if is actually true . . . then there it goes Jesus divinity . . .

Its an attack on Christianity. The core belief is that Jesus died and rose to heaven. His body would not be found because its not here on Earth.

Who would want to dig up Jesus, other than Radical Jews?

I predict strong backlash and a weakening of the Christian Zionist movement.

www.ynetnews.com...
The story starts in 1980 in Jerusalem’s Talpiyot neighborhood, with the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave containing ten coffins

jews of that time didn't bury their dead in coffins, to my knowledge. Ossuaries were common though.

The findings in the cave, including the decipherment of the inscriptions, were first revealed about ten years ago by internationally renowned Israeli archeologist Professor Amos Kloner.

Ah, so they are talking about the guy that found the James Ossuary, which, however, ended up being a fake.

According to the filmmakers, the film’s claim is based on close work with world-famous scientists, archeologists, statisticians, DNA specialists and antiquities experts.

I don't think I need to see anything else to tell me that this is all bunkum. They've made a discovery like this, but with only three years of research? And they've not published any of their findings in a reputable archaeological or other scientific magazine? All they have is a documentary?
They might not be hoaxers, they might've convinced themselves that they're correct, but I bet they've got nothing.


Also see this:

www.cjp.org...
But the senior Israeli archaeologist who thoroughly researched the tombs after their discovery, and at the time deciphered the inscriptions, cast serious doubt on it.

"It's a beautiful story but without any proof whatsoever," Professor Amos Kloner, who had published the findings of his research in the Israeli periodical Atigot in 1996, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa Friday.

"The names that are found on the tombs are names that are similar to the names of the family of Jesus," he conceded.

"But those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE," he added.

Kloner dismissed the combination of names found in the cave as a "coincidence."

Originally posted by Murphs
I know sceptics are going to say why keep the findings so long before going public?

The people that made the documentary probably never even heard about the finding, which occured in the 80's and has been studied a good deal since then, until just before they started making their documentary a few years ago.

The people making the documentary aren't the people that found it, not apparently are the ones that did the bulk of the research on the discovery and with the discovery.

madnessinmysoul
how the hell did they come to the conclusion that the tomb was related to these biblical figures

Apparently it is based on nothing other than the names. I suspect that the 'genetic' evidence will simply be used to show that there was a male, his mother, a woman, and a child of the male and woman, and some siblings of the male, or some such.
Which, of course, isnt' too surprising and doesn't show that it was jesus.

And of course it begs the question, why didn't the original followers of jesus mention that he had an heir, a person that could lead his movement? Clearly they'd already crossed the theological boundary by saying jesus was the 'son of god', having a son for jesus, or having him married, would be less shocking that that.

marg
I believe if I am not mistaken that this comes after the coffin found and supposedly been of Jesus brother prove to be a hoax . . .

Yes, indeed, good call. I saw one article that seems to suggest that the James Ossuary infact was a 'missing' ossuary from this find.

Malichai
Who would want to dig up Jesus, other than Radical Jews?

?
How about anyone that was interested in learning the truth???

How about it was found by archaeological researchers, why do they have to be 'evil jooos' trying to 'destroy christianity'?

I predict strong backlash and a weakening of the Christian Zionist movement.

Over a nothing such as this? Sure. The davinci code will be more provacative than this 30 year old discovery.

Once again, Nygdan is spot-on.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Well, obvious to those of us that look beyond the glitter.

Lex

Originally posted by Malichai
Its an attack on Christianity. The core belief is that Jesus died and rose to heaven. His body would not be found because its not here on Earth.

finding something is an attack on a religion?
attempting to research history is an attack on christianity?

Who would want to dig up Jesus, other than Radical Jews?

someone who found him buried would want to dig him up
wouldn't they?
i mean, if i become an archaeologist as i intend, i'd jump at the opportunity to dig up any discovery i find...

so scapegoating the "radical jews" isn't really a valid argument

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

so scapegoating the "radical jews" isn't really a valid argument

Really? I see its all Jews behind the work. Radical Jews. Just like the Radical Muslims they attack the faiths of others.

Next they will dig up Muhamed.

Ok, what are the names of hte people producing this documentary?

The original researchers that made the discovery were jews. They did not claim that it was jesus, nor did they claim that it had anything to do with christianity.

So why are you seeing evil jews where there aren't any?

Originally posted by Malichai
Really? I see its all Jews behind the work. Radical Jews. Just like the Radical Muslims they attack the faiths of others.

Next they will dig up Mohamed.

Pardon my ignorance but what finding the truth about what could be the biggest hoax lasting for 3 centuries is an attack to Christianity and religion?

Isn't religion about faith?

Mohamed was actually a real man that die just like any other human, he was not claim to be of divine birth just that he have divine vision and that is something that neither you or me can prove as true of false but can only make our own minds as the validity of his claims.

Jesus can not be found in history but only through the writings of a book that we call the bible and that has become the sole base and pilar of the christian religion . . . this also should be for us to decided if the validty of Jesus divine birth is true or not.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Ok, what are the names of hte people producing this documentary?

Do we really have to play name the Jew? Didn't you read the article?

Simcha Jacobovici and James Cameron, both controversial Jews.

Access to the site and material was controlled by the Israeli Antiquities Authority.

Where is there a Christian or Muslim or other hand in this?

It's a crock.

The folks that brought us the St James funeral box hoax now bring us this 'amazing' discovery. Ugh.

We already know the location of Jesus and Mary's tombs. People just a few hundred years after the incidents knew where they were. I figure they know better than we do - 2,000 years later.

Jesus tomb has a church on it and Mary's (empty) tomb is also well established and well known.

Even if you want to argue over the credibility of those two places ... the fact is that this 'documentary' is shady, and after the St. James hoax ... no thanks.

Originally posted by marg6043

Mohamed was actually a real man that die just like any other human, he was not claim to be of divine birth just that he have divine vision and that is something that neither you or me can prove as true of false but can only make our own minds as the validity of his claims.

Mohamed did not die. He Ascended to heaven from the top of a hill in Jerusalem where the Dome of the Rock sits today, or so many Muslims believe.

Google: Mohamed Ascension

[edit on 24-2-2007 by Malichai]

Originally posted by Malichai
Mohamed did not die.

Whereever he ended up ... he left behind plenty of children and some of his lineage can be traced. (or at least some CLAIM to be of his lineage). I believe that the King of Jordan claims to be of Mohammed's line. If some bones were found that seemed to point in the direction of being Mohammed's, we could most likely find people alive today that could be DNA tested to match up with (if those people allowed the DNA testing, which could be problematic)

"Tests prove the names are genetically of the same family and statistically, there is a one in 10 million chance this is a family other than the Holy Family,"

However, according to strict Christian teaching, Jesus ascended to heaven, so there would be no bones left behind.

Mysterious Bones of Jesus, Joseph, and Mary Article by the Telegraph

So could the bones they have actually prove to be Jesus and the Family? Interesting thought as I have never been one to truly believe in the bible. Not that this evidence would change my mind, but it could lead to some new thoughts about the topic. Plus if the Christians believe that he did in fact ascend into Heaven and no bones were left behind what would this mean for them. Would this change any part of the teachings. Does the Bible say that he acended into Heaven, or is just another assumption by the Christians. If the bible states this fact then this could be evidence that the bible has discrepencies right?

Originally posted by Malichai
Mohamed did not die. He Ascended to heaven from the top of a hill in Jerusalem where the Dome of the Rock sits today, or so many Muslims believe.

That believe as the believe of Jesus divinity is in the eyes and minds of people of faith . . .

Mohamed was nothing but a man . . . and Jesus that is still to be prove.

Originally posted by marg6043

Originally posted by Malichai
Mohamed did not die. He Ascended to heaven from the top of a hill in Jerusalem where the Dome of the Rock sits today, or so many Muslims believe.

That believe as the believe of Jesus divinity is in the eyes and minds of people of faith . . .

Mohamed was nothing but a man . . . and Jesus that is still to be prove.

It goes to the point that anyone trying to dig up Muhameds body is Anti-Islamic.