The Alien/Asian Link

Originally posted by thesaint
I dont think they are the greys in the future. I would imagine though that if the greys were watching they would take an interest in their technolgy.

Man i just had a vision of a Jackie Chan grey alien kicking our butts

Synchronicity? From a Tool song about either an alien experience or a '___' experience:

Then the X-Files being,
Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan
with Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of
vanilla Chig Champa
Did a slow-mo Matrix descent
Outta the butt end of the banana vessel
And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,
and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip

Added LINK and 'ex' tags for external material

[edit on 15/2/07 by masqua]

nice theory man, I acknowledge it. Way back in the day you had the first Mestiso man (half caucasian half negroid) He turned out to be genetically his own man. Maybe a single grey is the culmination of a whole species interbreeding over a long period of time. It gets complex, but the idea of origin is indeed there

This would then explain why Asians are generally shorter, have less body and facial hair, and are more intelligent.

Asian people are not more intelligent than caucasians, not genetically anyway. Any difference is due to cultural factors, and also because the asian population is much greater than the white population.

Anyway interesting theory, maybe if all the races interbreed over many years and somehow end up as grey aliens. The big black eyes can be due to the fact that they've been sitting at computers for hundreds of years and ended up developing giant dilated pupils. They might have grey skin because they spend all their time inside spacships and don't get enough sun. Also, if this metrosexual trend continues for a 1000 more years they might end up as cosmosexual, and therefore have no body hair.

Another theory might be that some Japanese people in Hiroshima/Nagasaki ended up mutating into the grey's. They may have developed super intelligence and developed the saucers for the Japanese government, the Americans then ended up getting their hands on this technology somehow (insert Area 51 story here). The super intelligent greys would also need some high protein food with lots of amino acids, so the Japanese government hunts minky whales to feed them.

Toy soldier are you sure this is not racism. You mentioned that the asians got slanty eyes, what do slanty eyes have anything to do with the Greys, which got big eyes, I think overall you tried to say that asians are ugly by pointing out their physical figures, and you're being a racist. Yes, I'm Asian but I'm not Chinese and I don't have slanty eyes, but your post offended a big group of people, so I would suggest you to think before you act.

From Mondogiwa

Anyway, this thread of yours is on touchy ground for maybe/maybe not being racist. Putting that issue aside for the moment though, the fundamental idea needs to be thought out a bit, what do you think? You mention the eyes, but as stated above by another posting member, the "greys" have huge almond shaped eyes, not as you put it, "squinting eyes".

Yeah, I'm beggining to think that perhaps if I hadn't brought so much attention to the fact that some may find this post racist myself then I wouldn't have so many comments on the racism aspect of it.

And I described asians as having slanty eyes (if you squint), not squinty eyes. Sorry for the confusion, I was just taking the piss out of myself as I really do not find this theory that plausible

From Bobby3

The one thing that comes in mind to me is that MIB's are often reported as having an asian appearance with an olive colored skin... And of corse if you cross this with the theory that MIB's are not in fact human...

My wife is chinese, and though I don't think of her as an alien I do sometimes question weather or not she's sane...

I had never heard that about the MIB, very interesting

And your poor, poor wife, how would she feel if she knew you were posting stuff like that on the internet?

From Lysergic

Generalization at it's best.

So by what the OP posted I'm to guess that because of pop culture comedians, greys would also be bad drivers (thus roswell) and take bad photographs?

While you might've thought this to be humorous or perhaps genuinely believe this to be possible, imo it doesn't seem to hold any grain of truth.

hahaha, I guess so? I'm not sure if you were trying to be funny there, but I laughed.

I did think this to be a humorous thread, I had fun writing it and I'm having fun reading all of your comments, and actually learning a lot! (Like about the droppa stones, cheers papooseS4 :up

From Glad_To_Be_His

although I think perhaps they (asians) may be a result of the grey's being here - not the other way around. ......I see the same resemblance in the american indians.

Very interesting! I had never thought of that. I've always considered that everyone here on earth was 'put here' by Aliens and we're just being watched, like an experiment. But yes, cheers for the contribution!

From Cthulwho

Also, if this metrosexual trend continues for a 1000 more years they might end up as cosmosexual, and therefore have no body hair.

A big thanks for introducing me to the term 'cosmosexual'. Rest assured my friends will be getting an earful of that for many weeks.

But you do have some very good ideas in your post. You certainly saved my butt when it came to explaining away the big black eyes

from Bonthan

Toy soldier are you sure this is not racism. You mentioned that the asians got slanty eyes, what do slanty eyes have anything to do with the Greys, which got big eyes, I think overall you tried to say that asians are ugly by pointing out their physical figures, and you're being a racist. Yes, I'm Asian but I'm not Chinese and I don't have slanty eyes, but your post offended a big group of people, so I would suggest you to think before you act.

Not once did I call asians ugly. So far I see only you who is offended, and I apologise. But I think you need to learn how to take some things a little more light heartedly. I didn't 'attack' any race in my post. I have told many of my asian friends this 'theory' and generalised in much more detail than I did on here and they loved it.

This isn't something that I swear by or is convinced is true, it's just something I came up with oneday and decided to share it. Let's try and take things with a bit of a sense of humor eh?

Toy_soldier, I am Christian and being Asian, I just want to say, if there is something comes up eventually, Chinese is not the only one to blame but the whole Asian races ! it is not necessary UFO(I halfly believed) but the start of the 'end time', we got everything here the good, the bad and the ugly..... it is hard to blame 'foreigner' dislike us ! this is just my 0.02 yen I don't want to start the fire, be good !

Toy never said that he didn't like the 'slanty' eyes of Asians. He didn't say they're unattractive or less functional or anything like that. In fact, he may even think that Asians' and/or Greys' eyes are the hottest thing around. He might even want to BE one. His post didn't really say either way. It didn't even *hint* either way.

Toy just made a connection between the appearances of two well-known general images and devised an out-there theory. It's not racist, it's crazy.

This is racist,
'Asians are intelligent, yet conniving, aliens with weird slanty eyes. Go back to your home planet!'

I don't actually mean the above statement.

Bonthan, I'm sure that Toy is not being racist.



P.S. I rule.

Furthermore, bonthan, how do you know Toy's comments offended a large group of people (assumed, from your contention, to be Asian)??

Perhaps it's racist to assume that Asian people would be offended by such notions.


HA, it works two ways.

I understand sometime poeple will think~ why some Asian are good in Maths or whatever~ some Afican has muscular body~ and some western have blue eyes~etc.

We have no idea How and who become Alien/grey but we need to imagine~
My next gen. become grey? may be or not may be.

[edit on 15-2-2007 by roisu]

I kind of had the same theory. Except mine involved Italians, and the Flying-Saucer / Pizza similarities!

I like pizza!

Does that mean that you think Italians make flying saucers? Maybe they designed frisbees too. I wonder if they'll sell the technology to us.

Or maybe just to me, since we're (Italians, Asians and Greys included) desperately trying not to be racist here and thus I don't want to exclude Italians from my "us".

Side note: If racism/anti-racism mattered to me lots, then I'd feel obliged to include Italians in my "sell the technology to us" statement, so I don't wind up grouping the rest of the world together in such a way that it's exclusive. But then that means Italians would be buying their own technology. And that would mean they're exploiting the market. And that would make Italians potentially bad. What a conundrum!

Well, anyway, maybe I wouldn't want them to sell it to me, since I actually don't want to buy it. I'll ninja it. With my flying saucer. That I'll design and build. Because I'm cool. Like pizza.




Another side note: With my sarcasm on the racism issue, I just wanted to point out that there's avoiding racism and then there's being just plain ridiculous.



[edit on 19-2-2007 by toastmeister]

wow! it's pretty funny to talk about it... i actually had the same theory before and only discussed it with friends jokingly.

but in all seriousness, many old asian people bare striking resemblance to the portrayals of the grays. it would be easy to imagine an animation morphing an asian evolving into a gray... it would transition much more smoothly than the other races.

not to mention the statistical fact that asians fare very well academically all over the globe regardless of the effects of nature and cultural differences (giving good argument to the idea that intelligence can be inherrited to some degree). beyond statistics, in my personal experiences asian people that i've known and have went to school with fell into the stereotype. that out of the way, give them a million years or so and i'm sure they could figure out anti-gravity crafts as well as time travel if any of that is physical possible... yeah, they would probably beat the russians, americans or any other group of people to it.

thumbs up to the asians! go asian people. (don't abduct me)

Originally posted by Toy_soldier
First of all I would just like to apologise if this actually offends anyone. I'm not a racist and this isn't meant to insult or bring down anyone.

This is just a random theory I thought of oneday and thought it was pretty interesting.

I just noticed how some asian people look simliar, sort of (when you squint), to 'greys'. Generally skinny, short, 'slanty' eyes. And asians seem to be particularly good at maths/science/all that crap that is far too complicated for me to even think about.

Though this is only my first post, I've been coming here for quite a few years and have spent countless hours reading all of your posts and ideas. One thing I notice is that a fair few of you agree that China is getting to be economically and militarily ... dominent in the world. Or atleast will be in some time. (I clearly had trouble properly wording that sentence)

My theory is that China eventually 'takes over' the world and the Chinese become the 'dominent' race. And thousands or even millions of years down the track they 'become' the Greys. Whether through evolution or some sort of artificial means.

I also chucked the in theory that the UFO's that people have been seeing all over the world for centuries are infact time machines, and not visitors from outer space. It's the Greys, or the future chinese or whatever the hell you want to call my little idea, that are the time travellers.

So, in a nutshell, my theory is that the greys and UFO's that have been sighted over the years are infact just the chinese (it started off as asians in general, but whatevs) from the future that are visiting us in their time machines, which they built using their smarts in maths/science/all that other crap.

Crazy?? I think not!

I'd love for any of your comments or ideas on this. Cheers.

Once again, sorry for my massive generalisations. It's not my intention to offend.

You are actually not the first to propose this on ATS, I remember someone else proposing the exact same thing. I will try to find the thread.

Originally posted by Toy_soldier
First of all I would just like to apologise if this actually offends anyone. I'm not a racist and this isn't meant to insult or bring down anyone.

Look, this statement right here says that TS thought about his idea and the fact that it could be construed in a bad way, yet said it anyway... He has in a round about way understood that "becoming a grey" or being generalized as "grey material (aka creepy butt probers)" might be construed as discriminatory. YET, he said it anyway...

Greys as time travelers is one thing, greys as ASIAN time travellers is another. It's pointing a finger and generalizing a whole group of people based on their physical characteristics alone.

All told it's pretty freaking inoffensive, but also a little ignorant. So I thought it needed denying!

Now onto the OP's thesis: Isn't there some old belief that the rulers of Japan were descended from some kind of Sun Goddess? Sounds alien to me.

ya even though the chinese are incredibly advanced in technology i dont think they are aliens or that they are the ones flying the UFO's because i strongly belief that ther are extrateristials and that they have been in this universe from the beginning,and i think extraterestials were the first creatures in this universe.and i dont think that any human being,no matter how advanced or smart you are can create an aircraft that can fly faster than the speed of light or menuver the way we have seen them.I think that the Extraterestials are real and are the ones operating the UFO's

I think the general description of the grays is different enough, yet close enough to all the current populations of the planet, that if you prescibe to the theory that grays are us from the future, then it could be any current race that has evolved to look like a gray.

If you think about it all races could eventually end up looking like that, dependant on certain factors of course. I don't think what you are saying makes to much sense from the standpoint of evolution.

[edit on 20-2-2007 by pompano]

I have seen a cool ufo files episode where it talks about the dragons triangle, and one guy on there said he found 5 similar tales of a woman who came out of a round ship from the sea.
here is a link dragons triangle
Also thought about your theory and wanted to put my 2 cents worth on it.
Aliens tried to make first contact with asians and the asians thought they were gods or demons so thats why there are so many different dragon stories and many demon stories and not so much alien stories, also many civilizations around the earth have stories about sea serpents and lost ships, heck maybe even the atlantis story is about alien underwater bases.
Just my thoughts and thought it would add something to your thread

No doubt the folks who carry the racist agenda don't like your tone. Kudos to you to speak up, don't feel like you bring up your opinion to put a people down.
Am not a student of the subject, but isn't evolution coming from Africa, little guys getting bigger, coming down from a tree to running around so long ago...
Don't quite get the big jump to Europe, North America, large,human-like, cave drawings, and a fire to cook the supper...a huge jump from the goofy little monkeys, and just how Asia fits in the mix...
You can't make everyone happy, maybe you don't have too...

a huge jump from the goofy little monkeys, and just how Asia fits in the mix...

Yup its called evolution and it can take millions of years to occur.

But if an organism needs to adjust to new/different surroundings it will do its best to do that in as short a time as possible. "Survival of the fittest", Im sure it was coined by the man who wrote the book on the subject Darwin.

The book is called 'Origin of the Species' for those who are interested.

Although, it lacks predictions as to the possible evolution of Asians into greys, so I'm not sure if anyone reading this thread would be all that interested.