UFO's: Shoot at them till we down one of them!

Well I think that if ufo's do exist, and you manage to see one close enough to shoot at, all you will do is piss them off and make them hostile.

Don't you know that they could vaporize an entire city with their particle beam?



Sorry, someone had to say it.

I really enjoyed this thread by the way.

Originally posted by BallOfPopulation
Go ahead and shoot at them then TrueAmerican, see what happens. If you can actually manage to ground one and bring alien disclosure, then I'll eat my words.

But you'll probably just hit a plane and kill someone.

There's only one person on ATS I'd tell if I did manage to bring one down. And no, I won't be shooting at any kids, airplanes, or in any areas where someone could get hurt. In fact, I won't be shooting at anything. It's the point of futility in this quest for disclosure, the way it is being done now, that I'm trying to get you to see.

May I ask what GOOD the UFO and alien phenomena have done (aside from those that make money on the propaganda from it.) ?

What good has it done the community? Offered us hope, you'd say? Hope that what? They'd come down and give us all a billion dollars each, or stop starvation, or stop human wars forever? What hopes do you people have for finding out that there is another life form in the universe, AT THIS POINT. That they'd give us technology? Ease our way of life? Cart us off to another planet before this one blows?

I mean WHAT? WHAT is the point? Why even care, unless you're one of the privy few. If it's real, it has been taken already, and you aren't benefitting one bit. In fact, quite the opposite, if you really think about it. You have to pay them, for THEM to reap whatever benefits there are from the relationship under a veil of secrecy. Sorry, but to me it just doesn't add up.

That's it!!!

Citizens United For Downing UFO's. (cufdufo) Lets get the organization started. They dont exist according to the government, right?
So where would be the harm in downing some figment of our imagination?

I'm In.

Originally posted by dgtempe
That's it!!!

Citizens United For Downing UFO's. (cufdufo) Lets get the organization started. They dont exist according to the government, right?
So where would be the harm in downing some figment of our imagination?

I'm In.

rofl, dg... kk, let's do it...But if you look anything like your current avatar, Ima have a hard time aiming....at the ufo's that is...

Hasn't the majority of confirmed and un-confirmed UFO downing's come from A shootdown !.
I mean thats a huge part of this whole thing !.

That all AirForces of the world have been trying to get lucky shot.
And a lot have probably succeeded in bringing them down ? !.
I am shure there is the typical alien pilot error ,then there's the planet (lightning strike ) you no anomaly ,that may bring them down !

But I think the Idea of shooting them down has been around since WW1.

Originally posted by vertol
Hasn't the majority of confirmed and un-confirmed UFO downing's come from A shootdown !.
I mean thats a huge part of this whole thing !.

That all AirForces of the world have been trying to get lucky shot.
And a lot have probably succeeded in bringing them down ? !.
I am shure there is the typical alien pilot error ,then there's the planet (lightning strike ) you no anomaly ,that may bring them down !

But I think the Idea of shooting them down has been around since WW1.

Sure, there have been plenty of cases where the MILITARY fired on UFOs, and some even claiming to have shot them down. The problem is, what good did that do you and me? We ever get to examine the wreckage or any bodies? NO. They carted them off somewhere into oblivion, away from prying eyes. But dammit, the public is paying for those planes, pilots and expertise. We have a right to know. Not only from a monetary standpoint, but from a universal standpoint. The only national security it would compromise is whatever benefits governments derive from it in secret. Enough secrets. Shoot em!

great topic, one iam sure the government has done. But if we civies did shoot one down then the gov. or the greys would turn up. then what?

Originally posted by DragonflyWolfTen

great topic, one iam sure the government has done. But if we civies did shoot one down then the gov. or the greys would turn up. then what?

Then what? Well I dunno, I guess dg's gonna havta smite them with those...umm....hehe...nvm.

It isn't a war against aliens I'm after here, of course. Cause all we need is one. One that isn't carted away in secrecy by the men in black, and is defended by a wary citizens group.

Interestingly, if the government does know things about these creatures that would threaten human life as we know it, they STILL can't tell us lest they look like liars all these years. Heh, like we needed any more confirmation of THAT.

Originally posted by Incognito C
Precisely the reason why they don't interact with us in the first place.

I couldnt have said it better myself. Why should they help us if we are hostile to them?? Why should they help us when we dont help ourselves?

TrueAmerican, you are not a true American, because true americans welcome diversity.

I think you have been swallowed the fear propaganda your media spoonfeeds you. Only a very small percentage of ETs are negative, that is just logical, and they are kept in check by the more powerful Light beings so they dont run amuck.

The universe is in perfect order, from the tiniest atom to the mightiest neutron star. Anyone who thinks otherwise is obviously not in tune with the universe, in all its glory and diversity.


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I read somewhere a loong time ago that there is an OLD law on the books, written some time after Roswell i assume.
One of the laws state that any civilian meeting with an alien, even if for the purposes of "welcoming" them to earth or whatever, would be considered treason.
So in basic terms, if oe does land and we spoke to them, wed be arrested for violating national security lmao..
I wish i could remember a link to where i read this
Im pretty sure ive seen this mentioned by others on here as well.


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i dont think we'd have to worry about them or the gov't declaring war if we do manage to down one of them .. after all a figment of the imagination can't declare war on me right. so i say i'm in as soon as i get my hands on a projectile weapon of some sort.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Yep, shoot them all! With whatever you got! Pistols, rifles... even RPG's?

Crossbows?

I don't care! The problem is, we've been putting up with them for ages. And they sit up there in their fancy little ships, spying down on us, abducting us, implanting strange devices in our nasal cavities, and causing more controversy than Dubya. It's time to lay this for rest, once and for all!

so you want to shoot at being with far greater tech than us that could probly squash us like bugs if that wanted to.....realy sencable thank before you run your mouth off

Originally posted by Celtibero
I take pride in that.

They come to our home uninvited, they wake us up in the middle of the night, they kidnap childs, they probe us, they insert devices in our body, ruin our crops, manipulate our societies. What the heck do you expect? Do you expect us to open our arms in a loving embrace and say "welcome" ?

Maybe true, but it could be worse.

Let's put nuclear weapons in orbit and fire at anything that moves. Pity than in the famous "Tether incident" we didn't rig some nuclear explosives and blow the heck out of them. Let's find were do they come from (planet, dimension, timeline) and liberate them from their ill mannered attitudes.

That's how we'd find out exactly how much worse.

Like, say ten million ornery Klingon stormtroopers, or maybe a ten kilometer asteroid?

How do we know there aren't jingoistic vengeful ETs who might get pissed off and elected if some crap like that happens? The "replace humans with hybrids on Sol 3" party might just win.

When it comes to nuking ETs, we all need to STFU.

I see no real proof of ET existence any where. Just misfits claiming anal probing or my mate Derek is an alien, bloke down the pub says so.

Throughout human history Empires got on and conquered lands in a "Do it to them before they do it to me kind of ethic" I suggest this policy.

Instead of sending out loads of probes with cameras and sensors sniffing out non existent life out there, ship out nukes and scorch those planets just in case they evolve into an aggressive race.

Yea totally devastate their homelands that will make them think twice, let them know what they are dealing with. And if there is more advanced, intelligent life out there with, we're probably doomed any way. Especially if we nuke them first and get their dander up.

I don't care either way, I won't be around to see it. In fact I would like to start it for a laugh and set the planet Earth on self destruct so they can get no useful resources here

There again maybe that's what global warming is all about, the administrations know the game is up and are setting the planet on "Self-Destruct". Oh no, I have become a conspiracy theorist

Originally posted by mbkennel
Maybe true, but it could be worse.
That's how we'd find out exactly how much worse.

So, what's the logic at work here? Let us be abused because, if not, the abuser could get mad and slit our throats open? Is that what is being proposed? I let you do that, if you don't mind, but I will not let anybody harm me/manipulate me without a good fight. And I pay my government to defend me, and I hope they will do it.

Let's suppose that the things that the abducted persons are telling are true. If they are, which by they way I don't believe, this "alien" phenomenom is anything but positive for the humans.

If I have to believe what David Jacobs writes in his book "The Threat" about the whole abduction experience, theses beings/things are prone to lie, deceive, kidnap, hurt, experiment and steal from humans. What strikes me even more is that they don't even act too smart, beside being a totally unethical and amoral group of little things.

In mi opinion, if I go to a jungle to kidnap and experiment with monkey, even if it's done for scientific reasons, I'll have to deal with two points:

a) What I'm doing could serve a greater purpose, but it doesn't justify me and I know is unethical.

b) If the monkey bites three fingers out of my hand, is my fault and I probably deserve it. I'll have to deal with it, and I will not start a mass destruction of every jungle in return.

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Originally posted by snotbooger
HA I killt me a bunch of em gettin redy to go bag summore. Ayleans aint nuttin ta kill a gud dear rifel and a treestand get them sukers wen they be peakin in ma leterbox. I pyle em all up in the rut seller an the dogs git down there aftawyle an nuttin but them funny canvas saks is left.

This how u add a pitcher? Thas ma rut seller kneeds cleenin out now i rekon. Them funny bags musd be from thair planet Uspes. Sez rite on the bag usps.

That's too funny.

Celtibero said:

Let's suppose that the things that the abducted persons are telling are true. If they are, which by they way I don't believe, this "alien" phenomenom is anything but positive for the humans.

There does appear to be a vast disparity in entitlement here.

Originally posted by clearwater
Celtibero said:

Let's suppose that the things that the abducted persons are telling are true. If they are, which by they way I don't believe, this "alien" phenomenom is anything but positive for the humans.

There does appear to be a vast disparity in entitlement here.

No... its a conditional sentence. If these abudction stories were true, then it would follow that we have a problem and we should act in our own defense.

But I 'm of the opinion that there's little truth about them.

true american indeed.... "lets shoot em" "who cares what their intentions are, they deserve it cuz i think they do" true american indeed. oh and btw good luck lol...maybe i'll try digging a gold mine with a tea spoon, it would be just as effective

If the famous LA air raid of 1942 was a UFO, then not even thousands of rounds of artillary fire would bring one down. It was unfazed by the fire and slowly continued on it's way. If UFO exist and use a gravity distortion bubble, as some suspect, any projectile fired at them will simply go around them. That would be how they'd avoid space junk as well. A powerful SDI laser would probably hit them, though.

This is not like "Independence Day"

Why some guys here wanna go to war with eytraterrestials? Why wanna harm them, why this insane warmongering? Did they harm you? no.

Some guys here really are falling for the propaganda and watched to much "independence day"

Seriously: Would you shoot at someone that is just walking by? I guess some here would answer with yes. This is primitiv and an agression. Guess who's the agressor...it's not the ETs.

So you seriously think that bullets, nukes or anything we have would bring them down? I doubt that. They don't have just strong hulls, no. They also have strong shields (if you wanna call it like that). They're not as primitiv as mankind on earth.

And do you really think that _all_ ETs do the abduction number? I doubt that.You simply can't put all of the many races in one single pot. The so called "greys" and the ones that look similar to them may do that (perhabs...i'm not sure about the abduction thing anyway...). Those might not be so friendly, but what about the others? The others may be friendly and peacefull.