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Win 52
Pantheism.....Hummm....Your belief is only 300 years old and inspired by men.
Originally posted by win 52
I do trust my guide, this guide has brought me to this day alive and in good health (despite a heart attack and a stroke 20 years apart that Dr's couldn't find a cause for and had no answers as to why this hapened to me).
Originally posted by Marduk
Don't you think its a bit odd that I can prove the truth of what I say with links but all we ever get from you is your uneducated opinion
Bel doesn't = Marduk
Marduk is a babylonian name
Bel Marduk is actually the name of the God
Bel is simply the babylonian word for Lord
Baal is the north semitic word for lord
"Baal" can refer to any god and even to human officials; in some texts it is used as a substitute for Hadad, a god of the sun, rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture, and the lord of Heaven. Since only priests were allowed to utter his divine name Hadad, Baal was used commonly.
Marduk (Sumerian spelling in Akkadian: AMAR.UTU đŤđ "solar calf"; Biblical: Merodach) was the Babylonian name of a late-generation god from ancient Mesopotamia and patron deity of the city of Babylon, who, when Babylon permanently became the political center of the Euphrates valley in the time of Hammurabi (18th century BC), started to slowly rise to the position of the head of the Babylonian pantheon, a position he fully acquired by the second half of the second millennium BC.
what you are saying is that anytime anyone says the word "lord" in english they are referring to Jesus
which as any five year old could tell you simply isn't true
Not only was Jesus birthday changed to Dec 25th, the day of worship, the Sabbath, was changed to SUNday in honor of Baal which means Lord.........hence the Lords Day.
neither is Nimrod Bel Marduk
as Nimrod only originally appears in the religious texts of the Hebrews
there is no record of him existing anywhere else
this is quite normal though with fictional characters
in the same way that Darth Vader isn't mentioned outside of the context of Star Wars
how old are you anyway
people have studied mythology for less than six months would whip your ass in a debate
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
"Baal" can refer to any god and even to human officials; in some texts it is used as a substitute for Hadad, a god of the sun, rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture, and the lord of Heaven. Since only priests were allowed to utter his divine name Hadad, Baal was used commonly.
Yep, the Lord of Heaven. When you figure out who this lord of heaven is you might understand why Baal can refer to any of these gods that are connected.
If you drop the first consonant of Nimrod's name and take the others M, R, D you will have the basic root of the god of Babylon, whose name was Marduk, and whom most scholars identify with Nimrod. In the Babylonian religion, Nimrod (or Marduk) held a unique place. His wife was Semiramis. (In Cairo, Egypt, the Semiramis Hotel is named after this woman.) Marduk and Semiramis were the ancient god and goddess of Babylon. They had a son whom Semiramis claimed was virgin-born, and they founded the mother and child cult. This was the central character of the religion of ancient Babylon, the worship of a mother and child, supposedly virgin-born. You can see in this a clever attempt on the part of Satan to anticipate the genuine virgin birth and thus to cast disrepute upon the story when the Lord Jesus would later be born into history.
This ancient Babylonian cult of the mother and child spread to other parts of the earth. You will find it in the Egyptian religion as Isis and Osiris. In Greece it is Venus and Adonis, and in the Hindu religion it is Ushas and Vishnu. The same cult prevails in various other localities. It appears in the Old Testament in Jeremiah where the Israelites are warned against offering sacrifices to "the Queen of Heaven." This Queen of Heaven is Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod, the original mother of the Mother and Child cult. The cult has also crept into Christianity and forms the basis for the Mariolatry that has prevailed in the Roman Catholic Church, where the Mother and Child are worshiped as joint redeemers. Alexander Hislop, an authoritative writer in this field, has written a book called "The Two Babylons," which should be of great interest if you desire to pursue this further. This idolatrous religion culminates at last in the Bible in the book of Revelation. There, a "great harlot" appears, whose name is "Mystery Babylon the Great," the originator of all the harlotries and false religions of earth. The essence of Babylonianism, as we understand from Scripture, is the attempt to gain earthly honor by means of religious authority. That is Babylonianism, and it has pervaded Christian churches, Hindu temples, Buddhist shrines, and Mohammedan mosques. Everywhere it is the element that marks falseness in religion-the attempt to gain earthly power and prestige by means of religious authority.
That is what Nimrod began and what God will ultimately destroy, as we read in the book of Revelation. (from The Beginnings by Ray C. Stedman, Word Books 1978).
I think a person's religious/spiritual beliefs are not merely chosen or taught, but are down to different minds' capacity for understanding. That is to say, not one of us will see things exactly the same as someone else...no matter how much we agree on the basics there will be different influences on how a an individual processes the information, and selective perception can influence us, try as we might to avoid that. We have to break up the logical side in our mind and soul and find the crack in our psychological armour through which the light of true understanding can get in.
Well I'm a Pantheist Alchemist non-literalist pagan-christic gnostic with a small g....
I might be the only one ;-) doesn't matter, the creative force speaks to me too but I keep that info just for close friends
I kept this to myself for years, because I figured no one would believe me
Originally posted by Marduk
ok sun matrix I think I'm starting to understand
question
Is Bel Marduk also Satan ?
???
statement by sunmatrix
Bel = Baal = Nimrod = Marduk
statment by sunmatrix
Maybe you have heard of Jupiter, or Zeus or Baal or Bel or Gilgamesh or Osiris or Dagon or Sol Invictus or Marduk. Same origin.
statement by sunmatrix
Bel Marduk is Satan
statement by sunmatrix
Baal means Lord
there are other lords of which satan is one