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"If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?"
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reply to post by littledogbean
With all due respect, this seems like a question for an ESPN forum. If you've read some of this thread you'd understand that all TD or OTD can offer to those questions is speculation. That is exactly what you would get from ESPN as well, but at least they're probably more qualified to speculate.
Heck, I'll even give my opinion.
1) Thomas will leave the organization within your lifetime.
2) The Knicks will win an NBA Championship in your lifetime.
Hey Crakeur, I know you're still lurking. Impressed with my psychic abilities? lol
Now, I will admit that I used to be a big sports fan. But then I began to think bigger and deeper. Eventually I got to the point where I realized these so called champions weren't as important as the sports media would like me to believe. Personally, I don't care for the division that is created by sports. People actually go to blows over GAMES because their teams are rivals. Its sad.
I invite you to ask yourself "why does it matter if the Knicks win a championship?" What will you personally get out of it? Why do we put ourselves through the emotional rollercoaster that is a sports season? I hope you take the opportunity to put some thought into the answers you come up with. And I hope this post doesn't come across as condescending. The problem with posting on forums is that a post can be interpreted completely different from the author's intent. It's a risk we all take here, but at least this is skunkworks and its assumed that we're all accessing the internet from the psychiatric ward.
-Dave
With all due respect, this seems like a question for an ESPN forum. If you've read some of this thread you'd understand that all TD or OTD can offer to those questions is speculation. That is exactly what you would get from ESPN as well, but at least they're probably more qualified to speculate.
Heck, I'll even give my opinion.
1) Thomas will leave the organization within your lifetime.
2) The Knicks will win an NBA Championship in your lifetime.
Hey Crakeur, I know you're still lurking. Impressed with my psychic abilities? lol
Now, I will admit that I used to be a big sports fan. But then I began to think bigger and deeper. Eventually I got to the point where I realized these so called champions weren't as important as the sports media would like me to believe. Personally, I don't care for the division that is created by sports. People actually go to blows over GAMES because their teams are rivals. Its sad.
I invite you to ask yourself "why does it matter if the Knicks win a championship?" What will you personally get out of it? Why do we put ourselves through the emotional rollercoaster that is a sports season? I hope you take the opportunity to put some thought into the answers you come up with. And I hope this post doesn't come across as condescending. The problem with posting on forums is that a post can be interpreted completely different from the author's intent. It's a risk we all take here, but at least this is skunkworks and its assumed that we're all accessing the internet from the psychiatric ward.
-Dave
hey guys i just wanted to post something i have found...If you remember Td said that near the end of the concert the government comes and people are
put into trains and chained and sent to some place like a prison...atleast i think that is what he said...well i found this new article interesting,
its what someone posted on this thread...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.commoninterest.info...
very interesting...loool even though that is a bad thing, i still think it is cool that it relates to TD...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
“Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.”
www.commoninterest.info...
very interesting...loool even though that is a bad thing, i still think it is cool that it relates to TD...
Back from tour and ready to entertain you......jk
Hi
I am getting a feeling that we are in some kind of new thing. Is any one else getting that.
No, not because I have been reading that other site. I have been reading that, trying some of the visualization exercises there, and I find a lot of the information enhanses what I have. It fills in the gaps in a way that feels right. Well, a lot of it any way.
It does seem slow, but I believe that is just a result of us loosing our physical forms so regularly. Try to figure out how many times you have gone around here on earth.
Hi
I am getting a feeling that we are in some kind of new thing. Is any one else getting that.
No, not because I have been reading that other site. I have been reading that, trying some of the visualization exercises there, and I find a lot of the information enhanses what I have. It fills in the gaps in a way that feels right. Well, a lot of it any way.
It does seem slow, but I believe that is just a result of us loosing our physical forms so regularly. Try to figure out how many times you have gone around here on earth.
is it too late to 'sign up'? ive always like 'traveling'
For real tho...I would like to travel the sands of time!
For real tho...I would like to travel the sands of time!
Originally posted by ATSGUY
hey guys i just wanted to post something i have found...If you remember Td said that near the end of the concert the government comes and people are put into trains and chained and sent to some place like a prison...atleast i think that is what he said...well i found this new article interesting, its what someone posted on this thread...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
“Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.”
www.commoninterest.info...
very interesting...loool even though that is a bad thing, i still think it is cool that it relates to TD...
i just wanted to add this just for the credit...
looks like what Phil Schneider said was true...although i have always belived him its nice to have other sources...
Google Video Link |
video.google.com...
go to 21:35min in...
Hey Trend Setters !!!!!!!!!
I had two very unusual occurrences in the last 24 hours.
Firstly, last night, not even 5 minutes after I went to be I had a visitor inside the house. We have laminate flooring through our house and someone or something came walking through the house and stopped outside the bedroom door. The floor made loud noises as the laminate squashes under each foot step. These were loud footsteps.
I have a witness as I woke my wife before it got near our door, because I wanted her to go and see what it was, but she freaked out and was under the same impression that someone was in the house. What good is a wife if they wont go and check out such things.
I had the flashlight pointed at the bedroom entrance and called out, hoping it was one of our kids, but there was no reply.
The impression that I got is that it was not paranormal as we had a little activity in our last house and with paranormal you get the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I did not get this feeling. We have been in this house for over 3 years and have not had anything strange happen here so far.
Anyway after trying two more times to get my wife to check it out she reminded me that I am 6'4'' and should go and check it out. What a great time to be tall. Well as I am still alive there was nothing there, nor any sounds of anyone moving away. Did the usual check on the kids ect and went back to bed with no further incident.
I have no idea what it was and did not receive any kind of message or anything from it. All I know is that something did walk through and it was large.
In the morning I go to the wife’s cafe to help set up and in comes a solid built dude wearing a black biker tee shirt and blue beanie on his head. He starts rattling off all this stuff about god and 14 missions and then drops something about the reality of time travel. He spoke of his connections with animals, a bit more about god, meditation, more missions involving fighting, giving away all his money and starting again, and his connections with higher places / consciousness.
I must say I was kind of stunned, and was just listening to what he was saying. As I sort of had an audience in the background I could not let fly with some questions. My wife thought I needed rescuing and interrupted by sending me out to get urgent supplies. So it all ended abruptly. He saw I was interested in what he was saying and said he would return.
Now I will admit the term fruit loop crossed my mind many times in the conversation and on the surface this guy could very well occupy the padded cell next to mine, but there was something deeper going on with this guy on other levels. If he ever returns I will try to find out more.
Ok well back to mundanesville.
I had two very unusual occurrences in the last 24 hours.
Firstly, last night, not even 5 minutes after I went to be I had a visitor inside the house. We have laminate flooring through our house and someone or something came walking through the house and stopped outside the bedroom door. The floor made loud noises as the laminate squashes under each foot step. These were loud footsteps.
I have a witness as I woke my wife before it got near our door, because I wanted her to go and see what it was, but she freaked out and was under the same impression that someone was in the house. What good is a wife if they wont go and check out such things.
I had the flashlight pointed at the bedroom entrance and called out, hoping it was one of our kids, but there was no reply.
The impression that I got is that it was not paranormal as we had a little activity in our last house and with paranormal you get the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I did not get this feeling. We have been in this house for over 3 years and have not had anything strange happen here so far.
Anyway after trying two more times to get my wife to check it out she reminded me that I am 6'4'' and should go and check it out. What a great time to be tall. Well as I am still alive there was nothing there, nor any sounds of anyone moving away. Did the usual check on the kids ect and went back to bed with no further incident.
I have no idea what it was and did not receive any kind of message or anything from it. All I know is that something did walk through and it was large.
In the morning I go to the wife’s cafe to help set up and in comes a solid built dude wearing a black biker tee shirt and blue beanie on his head. He starts rattling off all this stuff about god and 14 missions and then drops something about the reality of time travel. He spoke of his connections with animals, a bit more about god, meditation, more missions involving fighting, giving away all his money and starting again, and his connections with higher places / consciousness.
I must say I was kind of stunned, and was just listening to what he was saying. As I sort of had an audience in the background I could not let fly with some questions. My wife thought I needed rescuing and interrupted by sending me out to get urgent supplies. So it all ended abruptly. He saw I was interested in what he was saying and said he would return.
Now I will admit the term fruit loop crossed my mind many times in the conversation and on the surface this guy could very well occupy the padded cell next to mine, but there was something deeper going on with this guy on other levels. If he ever returns I will try to find out more.
Ok well back to mundanesville.
Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
In the morning I go to the wife’s cafe to help set up and in comes a solid built dude wearing a black biker tee shirt and blue beanie on his head. He starts rattling off all this stuff about god and 14 missions and then drops something about the reality of time travel. He spoke of his connections with animals, a bit more about god, meditation, more missions involving fighting, giving away all his money and starting again, and his connections with higher places / consciousness.
Are You F#^#^** serious, loool sry about that. Once i heard the word solid built, black biker tee...a thought popped into my head and i thought he looked like Renato in there but i guess i read it wrong. Other than that i must say that is really amazing, do you have any other details on what he said about god, the 14 missions, and time travel? Have you seen this guy before?
maybe it is time...dun dun dun!!!!
[edit on 29-2-2008 by ATSGUY]
Heylo, win 52, TD, Galalian102, Prote, darcon, GUICE2, Cyber_Wasp, ATSGUY, littledogbean, acegotflows, midniteracerx, and everyone reading
along!!
I have to first speak to littledogbean and acegotflows. What's up, guys?
I don't follow sports. Never did. But I don't begrudge those who do. I have friends who keep up with several sports at the same time; favoring one or the other of course. I have to say though, as sports fans, to read what I just read about a team coach, especially regarding the anger this coach has elicited in the team's fans, I have to say I hope he leaves too ahaha
From just a cursory search I found the following recent headlines and statements concerning Isiah Thomas: "Knicks Fans Demand Firing Of Isiah Thomas: Blame Him For Knicks' Inept Game Performance," "Holy S***! Isiah Thomas Really IS Delusional!"; and one of the authors writes, "After Isiah Thomas said that he was still fit to coach the Knicks on Tuesday, we wondered if he was the most delusional man in the history of sports." (LINK 1 -- LINK 2 -- LINK 3) And these excerpts say nothing about his criminal missteps off the court...
Sorry about your team. There's nothing any time traveler can do to mitigate your suffering. Go with God. hehe Peace...
unknownfrost!! It's never too late!! When time is concerned, there's no such thing as too late. ahaha Welcome aboard! Seriously, if you get a visit...You know...Let us know ahha
Hey, Prote!! Long time no see!! I have to tell you, the incident (my out of body) that I posted about was one from years ago. I haven't had an experience lately (but haven't really been trying). I can hazard a guess as to why and say it's probably tied in with "sincere intent" and effort; neither of which has been present of late...
As for personal experiences of late, I've had awesome dreams. One dream from last week all but faded from memory, except for the word "Annunaki", which I either heard, or just appeared in my dream mind...The next night I had a controlled (by me) flying dream that was awesome. A friend of mine, someone vehemently skeptical about all of this ufo stuff (someone who'd had a very real ET dream a few months ago that he blamed on me hehe) shared a vivid flying dream he had a few night before. Is there something in the air? ahah It's funny when staunch skeptics experience things like this...Just makes you smile ahaha
I celebrated a family member's birthday this past weekend. There were twenty or more photos taken in our kitchen as we all sat around the table. All of the photos were crystal clear; all of the photos except two pics of me alone, which contained a swarm of bright orbs. The first photo had so many orbs you would have thought it was snowing. IN-SANE!! When I get that photo from the photographer I'll post it.
Along these lines, I've just listened to the ATSMIX radio interview with James Gilliland. Here is a direct link to the AUDIO FILE.
James talks about the continuing phenomena, contacts/sightings, orbs, and strange creature sightings at his ranch (eceti.org). He even says some folks visiting his ranch have seen small, Hobbit like creatures carrying wood...Sound crazy? Gilliland says physicists, psychologists, scientists, government/military people and others are witnesses to many of these things.
Oddly enough, Gilliland says some ufo groups are trying to keep people away from this location by changing the location of sightings/incidents to areas miles away. Gilliland also says that there have been scientists who have sightings, file reports at the ranch about the sighting, and then who later publish that all they saw were meteors and falling stars(?), etc. He says you don't always know how it is you're talking to.
Hi, Galalian102!! I'm sorry it's taken so long to post. By the time I stop running long enough to sit at the computer I'm beat. You said,
TD has not responded about your post, so I'd say nothing specific comes to mind. Wait and see...
Aloha, win 52!! You've been a busy poster...Showing me up. haha Mr., I don't need a technique. hah Kidding! I was reading your posts. I've read the lightworker/channeled stuff too, which seems to share a vision of our future that I believe is coming to pass, and which TD has described from the beginning.
I've stopped reading the lightworker/channeled stuff, because there are only so many ways of saying, "The future is bright". I know a lot of people have to agree, but one of the things I like about TD's experiences is that he provides real physical events and, albeit general, some idea of a time frame for these things to come to pass. The lightworker stuff is very vague, and they seem to repeat abstract statements about energy. Not that I haven't felt some novel sensations; and not that I don't disbelieve what they're sharing. I'm just looking for tangibles.
A couple of posters have gone onto the NESARA/First Contact thread at GLP and injected some much needed reason. The posts have gone on for nearly half a decade, and have basically been saying the same thing.
Back to the bright future thing. We ARE experiencing a slow shift there now - but it IS slow. win 52, you, TD and others talk about a shift; an acceleration; the shift you both speak of being very physical, and not, specifically, energy related. I definitely see this taking place. David Wilcock, referencing the RA material, and his brother's experience, also speaks of a series of escalating spiritual experiences; and mentions that there could also be a terrific, spontaneous spiritual event around 2012 (the latter coming from his RA research).
This future does not involve the controlling force that has upset the balance on this planet for thousands of years; our structure of rule. I'm partly responding to GUICE2's post (page 105),
It's not that easy. If it were we'd be there by now. We don't have a shortage of people with right views and strong ideologies. We lack the infrastructure to give these views a fighting chance. There are human beings dying; families on the streets; wars being fought for greed and power. This is the power structure in place. This is the infrastructure in place. Are we here because we lack intelligent, compassionate individuals? No, we're here because the folks running the show lack these qualities, and are intelligent and desperate enough to keep themselves in power through any means necessary.
There is something more going on here than a ruling family, serving their self-interests. It runs deeper, and this is what is being changed. The change is fundamental, but will manifest with these powers being removed.
You asked,
I don't need to ask him. The answer is yes. TD sees our current exchange system (as does Gordon Novel) going the way of the dodo and very soon. Gordon Novel, in an interview at Project Camelot a year or so ago, said he sees free energy being introduced (something he is working on now) to the public sector, and our currency system disappearing within the next ten years (as of this post, we may be at a little over eight or nine years and counting; possible sooner).
I won't speculate on how that might happen. We will have to wait and see.
And the whole idea of this "controller" type power structure, and the stories about Martial Law, the train cars and internment camps, etc., are all about old, fear-based systems.
CONTINUED...
[edit on 1-3-2008 by OnTheDeck]
I have to first speak to littledogbean and acegotflows. What's up, guys?
I don't follow sports. Never did. But I don't begrudge those who do. I have friends who keep up with several sports at the same time; favoring one or the other of course. I have to say though, as sports fans, to read what I just read about a team coach, especially regarding the anger this coach has elicited in the team's fans, I have to say I hope he leaves too ahaha
From just a cursory search I found the following recent headlines and statements concerning Isiah Thomas: "Knicks Fans Demand Firing Of Isiah Thomas: Blame Him For Knicks' Inept Game Performance," "Holy S***! Isiah Thomas Really IS Delusional!"; and one of the authors writes, "After Isiah Thomas said that he was still fit to coach the Knicks on Tuesday, we wondered if he was the most delusional man in the history of sports." (LINK 1 -- LINK 2 -- LINK 3) And these excerpts say nothing about his criminal missteps off the court...
Sorry about your team. There's nothing any time traveler can do to mitigate your suffering. Go with God. hehe Peace...
unknownfrost!! It's never too late!! When time is concerned, there's no such thing as too late. ahaha Welcome aboard! Seriously, if you get a visit...You know...Let us know ahha
Hey, Prote!! Long time no see!! I have to tell you, the incident (my out of body) that I posted about was one from years ago. I haven't had an experience lately (but haven't really been trying). I can hazard a guess as to why and say it's probably tied in with "sincere intent" and effort; neither of which has been present of late...
As for personal experiences of late, I've had awesome dreams. One dream from last week all but faded from memory, except for the word "Annunaki", which I either heard, or just appeared in my dream mind...The next night I had a controlled (by me) flying dream that was awesome. A friend of mine, someone vehemently skeptical about all of this ufo stuff (someone who'd had a very real ET dream a few months ago that he blamed on me hehe) shared a vivid flying dream he had a few night before. Is there something in the air? ahah It's funny when staunch skeptics experience things like this...Just makes you smile ahaha
I celebrated a family member's birthday this past weekend. There were twenty or more photos taken in our kitchen as we all sat around the table. All of the photos were crystal clear; all of the photos except two pics of me alone, which contained a swarm of bright orbs. The first photo had so many orbs you would have thought it was snowing. IN-SANE!! When I get that photo from the photographer I'll post it.
Along these lines, I've just listened to the ATSMIX radio interview with James Gilliland. Here is a direct link to the AUDIO FILE.
James talks about the continuing phenomena, contacts/sightings, orbs, and strange creature sightings at his ranch (eceti.org). He even says some folks visiting his ranch have seen small, Hobbit like creatures carrying wood...Sound crazy? Gilliland says physicists, psychologists, scientists, government/military people and others are witnesses to many of these things.
Oddly enough, Gilliland says some ufo groups are trying to keep people away from this location by changing the location of sightings/incidents to areas miles away. Gilliland also says that there have been scientists who have sightings, file reports at the ranch about the sighting, and then who later publish that all they saw were meteors and falling stars(?), etc. He says you don't always know how it is you're talking to.
Hi, Galalian102!! I'm sorry it's taken so long to post. By the time I stop running long enough to sit at the computer I'm beat. You said,
Originally posted by Galalian102
ask TD if he knew or saw anyone in his experiences that was of a "larger build" shall we say and had glasses on?
TD has not responded about your post, so I'd say nothing specific comes to mind. Wait and see...
Aloha, win 52!! You've been a busy poster...Showing me up. haha Mr., I don't need a technique. hah Kidding! I was reading your posts. I've read the lightworker/channeled stuff too, which seems to share a vision of our future that I believe is coming to pass, and which TD has described from the beginning.
I've stopped reading the lightworker/channeled stuff, because there are only so many ways of saying, "The future is bright". I know a lot of people have to agree, but one of the things I like about TD's experiences is that he provides real physical events and, albeit general, some idea of a time frame for these things to come to pass. The lightworker stuff is very vague, and they seem to repeat abstract statements about energy. Not that I haven't felt some novel sensations; and not that I don't disbelieve what they're sharing. I'm just looking for tangibles.
A couple of posters have gone onto the NESARA/First Contact thread at GLP and injected some much needed reason. The posts have gone on for nearly half a decade, and have basically been saying the same thing.
Back to the bright future thing. We ARE experiencing a slow shift there now - but it IS slow. win 52, you, TD and others talk about a shift; an acceleration; the shift you both speak of being very physical, and not, specifically, energy related. I definitely see this taking place. David Wilcock, referencing the RA material, and his brother's experience, also speaks of a series of escalating spiritual experiences; and mentions that there could also be a terrific, spontaneous spiritual event around 2012 (the latter coming from his RA research).
This future does not involve the controlling force that has upset the balance on this planet for thousands of years; our structure of rule. I'm partly responding to GUICE2's post (page 105),
Originally posted by GUICE2
OTD, you mentioned that we are fighting an unfair battle and this might be true but there is PLENTY that we can do to live comfortably. WE all have to stop living for money and start living for our own infrastructure...
we have to have enough support in our infrastructure for any problems that might arrise, simply put if someone is hungry and needs food we should all try and feed them. Build off of that ideal and i think we can start our own society within this one which has more support than any ever created in the history of mankind. THe KEY Is To stop beleiving in money...
It's not that easy. If it were we'd be there by now. We don't have a shortage of people with right views and strong ideologies. We lack the infrastructure to give these views a fighting chance. There are human beings dying; families on the streets; wars being fought for greed and power. This is the power structure in place. This is the infrastructure in place. Are we here because we lack intelligent, compassionate individuals? No, we're here because the folks running the show lack these qualities, and are intelligent and desperate enough to keep themselves in power through any means necessary.
There is something more going on here than a ruling family, serving their self-interests. It runs deeper, and this is what is being changed. The change is fundamental, but will manifest with these powers being removed.
You asked,
Originally posted by GUICE2
ask TD if the central banks ever release their hold on the throat of humanity allowing us to breath and evolve as we should.
I don't need to ask him. The answer is yes. TD sees our current exchange system (as does Gordon Novel) going the way of the dodo and very soon. Gordon Novel, in an interview at Project Camelot a year or so ago, said he sees free energy being introduced (something he is working on now) to the public sector, and our currency system disappearing within the next ten years (as of this post, we may be at a little over eight or nine years and counting; possible sooner).
I won't speculate on how that might happen. We will have to wait and see.
And the whole idea of this "controller" type power structure, and the stories about Martial Law, the train cars and internment camps, etc., are all about old, fear-based systems.
CONTINUED...
[edit on 1-3-2008 by OnTheDeck]
CONTINUED FROM ABOVE...
I've read plenty of articles on Martial Law, the internment camps, the train cars with the shackles, the underground bases with "Human Only" signs, implying that there are "non-human" residents, etc. I was somewhat concerned about that and asked my friend with the contact at the government acronym about it. The response was that I had painted a pretty good picture, but this becoming a reality just wouldn't happen. If Martial Law were ever declared in this country, in his words, the country would implode. It really would.
The balance has been terrifically upset. And this is thanks in large part to the Internet. If you declare Martial Law after everything the people in this country have become privy to via the Internet, you're going to see absolute chaos. You (the bad guys) will see your power structure disappear in one fell swoop. The hilarious thing about the power structure is that their own forces are abandoning them.
Look at all of the whistleblowers. Look at all of the high-ranking military personnel abandoning the military and speaking out against the government. Look at Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and others trying to uphold the Constitution. I've said it before, but President Bush's approval rating has varied between 28% and 38%. Adolph Hitler's approval rating was close to 99%. Bush's own administration seemed to be jumping ship and abandoning him over the last few years. How do you gain support when you can't even get your own cabinet on board?
These people wouldn't be able to speak up with impunity - they wouldn't speak up - if this were our reality, or about to become our reality.
It doesn't matter though, because this is not our reality. It isn't now, and it will be less so as time goes on. Everything these folks and their minions have been trying to cover up, distract from, lie about, and delay is what our universe is trying to tell us - we are about to be free from all of this. Why is there so much of an effort to conceal, silence, dissuade, confuse, terrify, and mislead?! The answer is right there staring you in the face.
ATSGUY referenced a Phil Schneider lecture from 1995. I saw Phil's apparent concern, and believe he may have seen what he claims to have seen. But after ten years, it's become clear that these fear-inducing stories are all that will ever manifest from these insane projects. There has been so much coverage on these subjects that you've just shot your chance as using your little trains. Secrecy is paramount. When you've been outed there's nothing you can do. You need the element of surprise. Oops.
Are they now going to explode a bomb, and then hope in the confusion they can usher folks on the trains? Or is there supposed to be some sort of "outbreak" where folks are quarantined in internment camps? Please release your fears about these things. This is the last tactic that the powers that be have in their arsenal. It's pathetic. They are doing on the Internet what they can't do in the mainstream media, and that is to have a field day with these things. The fact that we are aware of these things, and everything else that is going on on this planet and with ET contact, etc., is evidence of the path we are on. You have to read between the lines.
It's been said that the folks controlling all of our major institutions, the ones running things behind the scenes, will go down with the ship if need be. This is why TD, win 52, and others see an almost abrupt intervention scenario. Of course any attempts to cause great harm is being headed off at the pass, we are being kept in the dark until the last possible moment. So in essence, when you ask, GUICE2, if the banks will loosen their grasp, the answer is no. Not on their own hehe It will be loosed for them.
Phil may be honest in what he's seen, but he doesn't see (or doesn't mention) there is a larger context for these nefarious programs. And in that larger context, they will not be allowed to occur. You might even say that the timeline we're on is not one where that sort of motivation manifests and lords itself over the majority beings on this planet. I don't know if the timeline thing is a reality, but I do know that the time for those sorts of things is past.
I want to go back to win 52's comments. All of the stuff you mention about "energy" is true. It's just that people want something tangible to show change is afoot. I've experienced some novel physical sensations I've posted about. And my dreams have been ramped up in intensity over the last week or so. Before this past week, my dreams haven't been that intense since last year.
I've actually read articles that talked about folks in New York experiencing vivid or intense dreams just before (maybe weeks or days before) 9-11. I thought that was fascinating. It suggests our group subconscious is connected, and can receive signals/intimations of powerful events to come.
win 52, you said,
I want to say I enjoy the little "messages" you share in quotes, which I assume are from your guides/contacts/higher self.
When you ask if anyone feels if "we are in some kind of new thing," I have to answer yes. I just can't answer why I feel that way. Something is different, but I wonder how much of that is the complete and fundamental change I've experienced as a result of my research and my personal experiences (ufo photos, paranormal incidents, etc.), or if it is something else...
The world seems so different to me than it did before I met TD and went on this intensified research bender. I did the research and found what I was looking for - proof that we were being contacted and that a change was imminent.
If you want signs of change that actually make the public arena, look at the skies overhead (chemtrails/contrails), the events of 9-11 and the controversy revelations surrounding them; the statements and penetrating insights and logic of individuals like Ron Paul; all of the increasing, intensifying ufo sightings, and much, much more.
Going back to these nefarious programs, and lower ET contacts of the past, all of that is a thing of the past. If you want an accurate picture of where we are headed, this thread is a good example; as is what individuals like David Wilcock, James Gilliland, Jaime Maussan and others are sharing with us.
Some would say that there's a battle between good and evil. The battle is won. All that's left is the fear-mongering, because the last vestiges of control are being removed from those who are not a part of what James Gilliland and others call "the new energy". This "new energy" (what TD called "a good change for good people, and a bad change for bad people) is washing over our entire solar system. You don't shoot a missile at it, and you don't scare it away. It's changing everything.
I am, however, like many others, waiting for a physical manifestation - a real, undeniable sign, showing where we are headed. I actually want to know we're there. This is only a limited desire I have, as if I actually looked and were honest with myself, I could see it's already well underway. I know this. I just want everyone else to know it too...
I've read plenty of articles on Martial Law, the internment camps, the train cars with the shackles, the underground bases with "Human Only" signs, implying that there are "non-human" residents, etc. I was somewhat concerned about that and asked my friend with the contact at the government acronym about it. The response was that I had painted a pretty good picture, but this becoming a reality just wouldn't happen. If Martial Law were ever declared in this country, in his words, the country would implode. It really would.
The balance has been terrifically upset. And this is thanks in large part to the Internet. If you declare Martial Law after everything the people in this country have become privy to via the Internet, you're going to see absolute chaos. You (the bad guys) will see your power structure disappear in one fell swoop. The hilarious thing about the power structure is that their own forces are abandoning them.
Look at all of the whistleblowers. Look at all of the high-ranking military personnel abandoning the military and speaking out against the government. Look at Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and others trying to uphold the Constitution. I've said it before, but President Bush's approval rating has varied between 28% and 38%. Adolph Hitler's approval rating was close to 99%. Bush's own administration seemed to be jumping ship and abandoning him over the last few years. How do you gain support when you can't even get your own cabinet on board?
These people wouldn't be able to speak up with impunity - they wouldn't speak up - if this were our reality, or about to become our reality.
It doesn't matter though, because this is not our reality. It isn't now, and it will be less so as time goes on. Everything these folks and their minions have been trying to cover up, distract from, lie about, and delay is what our universe is trying to tell us - we are about to be free from all of this. Why is there so much of an effort to conceal, silence, dissuade, confuse, terrify, and mislead?! The answer is right there staring you in the face.
ATSGUY referenced a Phil Schneider lecture from 1995. I saw Phil's apparent concern, and believe he may have seen what he claims to have seen. But after ten years, it's become clear that these fear-inducing stories are all that will ever manifest from these insane projects. There has been so much coverage on these subjects that you've just shot your chance as using your little trains. Secrecy is paramount. When you've been outed there's nothing you can do. You need the element of surprise. Oops.
Are they now going to explode a bomb, and then hope in the confusion they can usher folks on the trains? Or is there supposed to be some sort of "outbreak" where folks are quarantined in internment camps? Please release your fears about these things. This is the last tactic that the powers that be have in their arsenal. It's pathetic. They are doing on the Internet what they can't do in the mainstream media, and that is to have a field day with these things. The fact that we are aware of these things, and everything else that is going on on this planet and with ET contact, etc., is evidence of the path we are on. You have to read between the lines.
It's been said that the folks controlling all of our major institutions, the ones running things behind the scenes, will go down with the ship if need be. This is why TD, win 52, and others see an almost abrupt intervention scenario. Of course any attempts to cause great harm is being headed off at the pass, we are being kept in the dark until the last possible moment. So in essence, when you ask, GUICE2, if the banks will loosen their grasp, the answer is no. Not on their own hehe It will be loosed for them.
Phil may be honest in what he's seen, but he doesn't see (or doesn't mention) there is a larger context for these nefarious programs. And in that larger context, they will not be allowed to occur. You might even say that the timeline we're on is not one where that sort of motivation manifests and lords itself over the majority beings on this planet. I don't know if the timeline thing is a reality, but I do know that the time for those sorts of things is past.
I want to go back to win 52's comments. All of the stuff you mention about "energy" is true. It's just that people want something tangible to show change is afoot. I've experienced some novel physical sensations I've posted about. And my dreams have been ramped up in intensity over the last week or so. Before this past week, my dreams haven't been that intense since last year.
I've actually read articles that talked about folks in New York experiencing vivid or intense dreams just before (maybe weeks or days before) 9-11. I thought that was fascinating. It suggests our group subconscious is connected, and can receive signals/intimations of powerful events to come.
win 52, you said,
Originally posted by win 52
I am getting a feeling that we are in some kind of new thing. Is any one else getting that...
It does seem slow, but I believe that is just a result of us loosing our physical forms so regularly. Try to figure out how many times you have gone around here on earth.
I want to say I enjoy the little "messages" you share in quotes, which I assume are from your guides/contacts/higher self.
When you ask if anyone feels if "we are in some kind of new thing," I have to answer yes. I just can't answer why I feel that way. Something is different, but I wonder how much of that is the complete and fundamental change I've experienced as a result of my research and my personal experiences (ufo photos, paranormal incidents, etc.), or if it is something else...
The world seems so different to me than it did before I met TD and went on this intensified research bender. I did the research and found what I was looking for - proof that we were being contacted and that a change was imminent.
If you want signs of change that actually make the public arena, look at the skies overhead (chemtrails/contrails), the events of 9-11 and the controversy revelations surrounding them; the statements and penetrating insights and logic of individuals like Ron Paul; all of the increasing, intensifying ufo sightings, and much, much more.
Going back to these nefarious programs, and lower ET contacts of the past, all of that is a thing of the past. If you want an accurate picture of where we are headed, this thread is a good example; as is what individuals like David Wilcock, James Gilliland, Jaime Maussan and others are sharing with us.
Some would say that there's a battle between good and evil. The battle is won. All that's left is the fear-mongering, because the last vestiges of control are being removed from those who are not a part of what James Gilliland and others call "the new energy". This "new energy" (what TD called "a good change for good people, and a bad change for bad people) is washing over our entire solar system. You don't shoot a missile at it, and you don't scare it away. It's changing everything.
I am, however, like many others, waiting for a physical manifestation - a real, undeniable sign, showing where we are headed. I actually want to know we're there. This is only a limited desire I have, as if I actually looked and were honest with myself, I could see it's already well underway. I know this. I just want everyone else to know it too...
Well, I have been sensing something like that to be in the air.
We are on some kind of new direction. With that being said, I also expect to see a lot more intervention, as this year unfolds.
Planet X -
With all of those plans for something to do with crowd control, does the govt know something they are not talking about.
I get a strong feeling we are going to be rescued.
Now, about a flood. Would something like a planet X making a slow pass by, cause something like a giant waive of water to be pulled up, and as the world turned there would be fault shifts, tidal waves, changing the face of the planet.
Is that why you can find clam shells on the tops of the Rockey Mountains? I wonder!
Now, I know it is not good to think negatively. But the reality of the situation and the impending ET rescue, all points to a major change in the way we will continue to exist.
Guess what? We were already polled and we chose something new, and brighter for our future.
OTD- we were destined to be here. I know I was. I realy am not clear on the details of the next few years, but whether or not a major event will come to pass. I pick yes.
Since childhood, I have been aware I would be witness to this event. My energy is needed to complete some sort of change. It has already started. It will only get stronger from here on.
Try to use your imagination...day dream, if you will. do you do that now?...sit for hours....thinking of nothing....living in your dreams.
Astral travel is just a step away from this state.
We are going to be rescued, plain and simple.
I joined a thread in here about planet X.....again.... this rings as being a part of what I saw....it is kind of covered in a red hase right now???
btw- "If you havn't yet...hug a tree...mother earth could use some lovin as well....it eases her labour pains."
[edit on 1-3-2008 by win 52]
We are on some kind of new direction. With that being said, I also expect to see a lot more intervention, as this year unfolds.
Planet X -
With all of those plans for something to do with crowd control, does the govt know something they are not talking about.
I get a strong feeling we are going to be rescued.
Now, about a flood. Would something like a planet X making a slow pass by, cause something like a giant waive of water to be pulled up, and as the world turned there would be fault shifts, tidal waves, changing the face of the planet.
Is that why you can find clam shells on the tops of the Rockey Mountains? I wonder!
Now, I know it is not good to think negatively. But the reality of the situation and the impending ET rescue, all points to a major change in the way we will continue to exist.
Guess what? We were already polled and we chose something new, and brighter for our future.
OTD- we were destined to be here. I know I was. I realy am not clear on the details of the next few years, but whether or not a major event will come to pass. I pick yes.
Since childhood, I have been aware I would be witness to this event. My energy is needed to complete some sort of change. It has already started. It will only get stronger from here on.
Try to use your imagination...day dream, if you will. do you do that now?...sit for hours....thinking of nothing....living in your dreams.
Astral travel is just a step away from this state.
We are going to be rescued, plain and simple.
I joined a thread in here about planet X.....again.... this rings as being a part of what I saw....it is kind of covered in a red hase right now???
btw- "If you havn't yet...hug a tree...mother earth could use some lovin as well....it eases her labour pains."
[edit on 1-3-2008 by win 52]
Win you betcha your bottom dollar we are destined to be here...
here is a good interview on coast to coast about light beings...really fascinating
part 1
www.youtube.com...
theduderinok really does a good job of supplying these coast to coast shows and other information, i have to say that maybe more than a quarter of the corroborations we have came from him...hahah
Oh and TD i listened to the James Gillialnd interview...hahah my question was kind of funny, i didnt really think he would read the exact date. But other than that it was cool, i would really like to go visit his ranch once in my life before all this stuff goes down.
[edit on 1-3-2008 by ATSGUY]
here is a good interview on coast to coast about light beings...really fascinating
Investigative mythologist William Henry discussed his latest work on Light Beings-- which he described as ancient enlightened ones who came to Earth and left a spark of themselves inside us. The Light Body is the name given to our hidden spiritual body and is referenced in many sacred traditions, he explained. The Mayans prophesized that enlightened beings would emerge from a serpent rope (possibly a stargate or wormhole) from the center of our galaxy in 2012, and Egyptian traditions also speak of beings of light, he noted.
Henry's investigation in Abydos, Egypt uncovered depictions of the 'Osiris Device,' which he described as a kind of a energy tower that could also serve as a teleporter for light beings.
Upcoming experiments at CERN with the Large Hadron Collider seek to recreate the conditions just after the Big Bang. Is humankind on the verge of discovering the primordial secrets of God-- seeing the light of first creation?, Henry pondered. Ultimately, humans have the ability to transform themselves through consciousness into light beings, he asserted.
part 1
www.youtube.com...
theduderinok really does a good job of supplying these coast to coast shows and other information, i have to say that maybe more than a quarter of the corroborations we have came from him...hahah
Oh and TD i listened to the James Gillialnd interview...hahah my question was kind of funny, i didnt really think he would read the exact date. But other than that it was cool, i would really like to go visit his ranch once in my life before all this stuff goes down.
[edit on 1-3-2008 by ATSGUY]
First off, I volunteer to time travel.
One thing I would like to know is What kind of shape is the world in in the future? Is it better or worse over all?
What kind of government system does the United states have?
What kind of government system do other countries such as China,Russia Iraq, Iran have?
In the future is there peace in the middle east? if so, How did the middle eastern countries work out all their problems?
What is it like in your time?
When do/did we first make contacts with aliens?
What year did the first time travel take place?
One thing I would like to know is What kind of shape is the world in in the future? Is it better or worse over all?
What kind of government system does the United states have?
What kind of government system do other countries such as China,Russia Iraq, Iran have?
In the future is there peace in the middle east? if so, How did the middle eastern countries work out all their problems?
What is it like in your time?
When do/did we first make contacts with aliens?
What year did the first time travel take place?
reply to post by ATSGUY
Hey ATSGUY !!!!!!!!!
I have not seen this guy before. As he had blue eyes and was Australian I knew it was not TD....lol
I am on the look out for future TD. If I ever see him my cell phone is always ready and if nothing else I will get a photo of him. I know with the future technology he can appear to any one of us just by thinking of our log in name. The technology will take you to where you think.
Question for TD - Do you remember any of the dudes that went on missions with you?
How many people can you remember that you crossed paths with that were also time travelling?
The guy I met seemed to have an infinity with dogs or wolves in particular from what he was saying. He would not have looked out of place in a marine uniform and I would not want him as an enemy...lol
My only problem was his reference to God all the time. People lose me as soon as they mention this. As we all know people doing anything in the name of God is bad news. This is what has screwed the world several times over.
Hey ATSGUY !!!!!!!!!
I have not seen this guy before. As he had blue eyes and was Australian I knew it was not TD....lol
I am on the look out for future TD. If I ever see him my cell phone is always ready and if nothing else I will get a photo of him. I know with the future technology he can appear to any one of us just by thinking of our log in name. The technology will take you to where you think.
Question for TD - Do you remember any of the dudes that went on missions with you?
How many people can you remember that you crossed paths with that were also time travelling?
The guy I met seemed to have an infinity with dogs or wolves in particular from what he was saying. He would not have looked out of place in a marine uniform and I would not want him as an enemy...lol
My only problem was his reference to God all the time. People lose me as soon as they mention this. As we all know people doing anything in the name of God is bad news. This is what has screwed the world several times over.
Wasp- Do not let the fact that we have been bombarded by many false gods, take away from the fact there is a benevolent race dedicated to our
preservation as spiritual beings.
"Know the benevolent race, giving you protection and guidance, as God. Seek your creator as your true source of existence. Trust that you are loved, as parents love their children."
"There are many gods in your world today."
This came in...."If you believed in a flat world, then had a ride into outer space, seeing the earth in all her round splendor, imagine how a person who never believed feels when confronted by the facts? Well, get ready for the facts, because you will soon see all there is to see and know. Make ready for an awakening of global proportions."
You might want to sit down for this one folks!
Wasp- I hope you find that guy...or he finds you again. Possibly not, however let that serve as a heads up to be ready for anything.
[edit on 3-3-2008 by win 52]
"Know the benevolent race, giving you protection and guidance, as God. Seek your creator as your true source of existence. Trust that you are loved, as parents love their children."
"There are many gods in your world today."
This came in...."If you believed in a flat world, then had a ride into outer space, seeing the earth in all her round splendor, imagine how a person who never believed feels when confronted by the facts? Well, get ready for the facts, because you will soon see all there is to see and know. Make ready for an awakening of global proportions."
You might want to sit down for this one folks!
Wasp- I hope you find that guy...or he finds you again. Possibly not, however let that serve as a heads up to be ready for anything.
[edit on 3-3-2008 by win 52]
Hey Win52 !!!!!
I know what you are saying about the benevolent. They work in the background unnoticed by most, but if you are really lucky you may notice their calling card. I have posted about my encounters with them before.
Lately I have been fixated with the clouds and spend a fair amount of time watching them when ever I get a chance. I do not know why though. There seems to be a lot of unnatural shapes appearing.
OTD, Just a question for you.
Was there any type of conclusion to the Comet Holmes spectacle that you have seen from your research?
I know what you are saying about the benevolent. They work in the background unnoticed by most, but if you are really lucky you may notice their calling card. I have posted about my encounters with them before.
Lately I have been fixated with the clouds and spend a fair amount of time watching them when ever I get a chance. I do not know why though. There seems to be a lot of unnatural shapes appearing.
OTD, Just a question for you.
Was there any type of conclusion to the Comet Holmes spectacle that you have seen from your research?
A very fond good evening to all the folks here, there and everywhere!!
I have so much to say and, because of that, don't know how to gather my thoughts and keep it short.
First, I want to give a shout out to all of the volunteers - especially the most recent ones!!
Also want to give a hearty hello to TD (What's up, man? I know we haven't talked in a while. Thank you for keeping up with these!!), win 52 (thank you for your continued inspiring contributions!!), Cyber_Wasp (bloody fair dinkum, mate!! haha), ATSGUY (who's working hard behind the scenes!!), and everyone else who has materially aided and abetted this process. hehe
I've gotten U2Us periodically from people asking me if TD was genuine, or if he was nuts. I can say that, after knowing him for almost a year and a half, and corresponding/talking fairly regularly over that time, that he is one of the sanest, grounded, most sincere and genuine people I've ever met. He's the real deal. And I genuinely believe he's had the experiences he says he has.
Time travel is not impossible to me. Nothing is impossible to me. All it takes is a better understanding of the processes that go on around us. We have to reevaluate what impossible means within the context of a universe we know virtually nothing about. Remember the story about the man, Håkan Nordkvist , who climbed under his sink, ended up going into a light and traveling to the future to meet himself? Here is a link to the VIDEO. The individual that video is about had this to say,
SOURCE
Possibly working in Håkan's favor is the fact that this video is in a language I don't understand. It didn't matter. If you look at someone's eyes you can usually determine with some degree of accuracy whether or not someone is acting, or if they are expressing something genuine. I got that from that video. Is this impossible to believe? For some maybe...Not for long though.
As for what TD sees in our future, in one way or another these things are coming to pass. What we thought was impossible - what is now causing mainstream science to question what it had taken for granted for so long - is now not only possible, it's happening.
Cyber_Wasp, you asked me if I had been following Comet Holmes since its big display. I haven't. What I understand about that comet, and about incidents like the time travel story above, about TD's experiences, the intensifying sightings, and everything else that seems to be building up to something is that these are harbingers - markers of things to come.
I think TD may have said this early on, it's definitely been stated in many places, but our current cosmological model of the universe is flawed, terribly flawed, and we are moving into a time where everything will be overturned, and we are going to have an awakening on all levels about the true nature of our reality.
Comet Holmes actually illustrated beautifully the shortcomings of our strictly gravitational cosmological view of the universe, and thrust David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill from Thunderbolts of the Gods (thunderbolts.info), James McCanney (jmccanneyscience.com), Kent Steadman (cyberspaceorbit.com) and other alternative cosmologists to center stage.
All of the talk about our awakening is taking place now. The hexagon at Saturn's north pole is another example of a universe beyond understanding. There is a wealth of similar items that for some reason have all decided to rear their heads now, and it's become clear to me that these events are all a part of our awakening,
SOURCE
Talbott and Thornhill also have a VIDEO that expounds on their electric universe model.
There are other miscellaneous findings I wanted to share, but that's for another post. I wanted to share TD's responses to the most recent questions.
darcon, what it is? You asked,
There may be some truth to the "agreements" certain grays made with our (and maybe other) governments in the past. All of that, if real, will need to be sorted out when these major shifts/contact events occur (Yes, I said "when" hehe).
Hey, gimme_some_truth!! You asked,
Buenos nachos, unknownfrost!!
Cyber_Wasp *New World Order hand shake* heheahah Kidding!! You asked,
Thank you all for your posts, insights, and sizeable financial donations. TD said he's fine with me keeping the contributions. hehe
If I could make it all happen now I would. I know TD would too. I've been swept up in all of this, and I can see the signs in my every day life.
I can't escape these things now. In one sense, it's difficult knowing what's ahead, but not getting there fast enough. In another sense, all of this has given my every day existence a strange glow (metaphorically speaking). I'm looking at everything anew, and that includes the Earth, skies (clouds), media, people, everything, in a new and different light...
I know the world around me has changed, but I know that with it I have as well...
Will address the folks helping from behind the scenes in my next post...
Have an excellent week!!
Peace, all...
I have so much to say and, because of that, don't know how to gather my thoughts and keep it short.
First, I want to give a shout out to all of the volunteers - especially the most recent ones!!
Also want to give a hearty hello to TD (What's up, man? I know we haven't talked in a while. Thank you for keeping up with these!!), win 52 (thank you for your continued inspiring contributions!!), Cyber_Wasp (bloody fair dinkum, mate!! haha), ATSGUY (who's working hard behind the scenes!!), and everyone else who has materially aided and abetted this process. hehe
I've gotten U2Us periodically from people asking me if TD was genuine, or if he was nuts. I can say that, after knowing him for almost a year and a half, and corresponding/talking fairly regularly over that time, that he is one of the sanest, grounded, most sincere and genuine people I've ever met. He's the real deal. And I genuinely believe he's had the experiences he says he has.
Time travel is not impossible to me. Nothing is impossible to me. All it takes is a better understanding of the processes that go on around us. We have to reevaluate what impossible means within the context of a universe we know virtually nothing about. Remember the story about the man, Håkan Nordkvist , who climbed under his sink, ended up going into a light and traveling to the future to meet himself? Here is a link to the VIDEO. The individual that video is about had this to say,
This is my story.
It all happened on the afternoon the 30th of August. It was a beutiful day and I was on my way home from a job in Färjestaden. When I got home, I found water on the kitchen floor. Somehow there was a leak. I got my tools and opened up the doors to the sink. And started to work.
When I reached in to examine the pipes, they seemed to be futher in than I remembered. I had to crawl inside the cabinet, and as I did so, I discovered that it just continued. So I kept on crawling further and further into the cabinet. In the end of the tunnel I saw a light, and when I got there, I realized I was in the future. I meet myself as 72 years old, the year was 2042. I did a lot of tests on him to see if he was really me. And the strange thing is that he knew everything about me. Where I hid my secret stuff when I was in first grade, and what the score was in the soccer match against Växjö Norra in the summer of -88. He knew it all.
We even had the same tatoo, although he's was a litte faded. He told me some of the stuff that will happen, but not so much. And I promised not to tell anyone. I made a film with my mobile phone. Unfortunately the quality is not the best. But it´s what I have got. Actually I dont´care if people thinks I am a lier. I know I'm not. I met myself in the future, and I was fine. That's all I know.
But if it happened to me it probably must have happened to someone else.
SOURCE
Possibly working in Håkan's favor is the fact that this video is in a language I don't understand. It didn't matter. If you look at someone's eyes you can usually determine with some degree of accuracy whether or not someone is acting, or if they are expressing something genuine. I got that from that video. Is this impossible to believe? For some maybe...Not for long though.
As for what TD sees in our future, in one way or another these things are coming to pass. What we thought was impossible - what is now causing mainstream science to question what it had taken for granted for so long - is now not only possible, it's happening.
Cyber_Wasp, you asked me if I had been following Comet Holmes since its big display. I haven't. What I understand about that comet, and about incidents like the time travel story above, about TD's experiences, the intensifying sightings, and everything else that seems to be building up to something is that these are harbingers - markers of things to come.
I think TD may have said this early on, it's definitely been stated in many places, but our current cosmological model of the universe is flawed, terribly flawed, and we are moving into a time where everything will be overturned, and we are going to have an awakening on all levels about the true nature of our reality.
Comet Holmes actually illustrated beautifully the shortcomings of our strictly gravitational cosmological view of the universe, and thrust David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill from Thunderbolts of the Gods (thunderbolts.info), James McCanney (jmccanneyscience.com), Kent Steadman (cyberspaceorbit.com) and other alternative cosmologists to center stage.
All of the talk about our awakening is taking place now. The hexagon at Saturn's north pole is another example of a universe beyond understanding. There is a wealth of similar items that for some reason have all decided to rear their heads now, and it's become clear to me that these events are all a part of our awakening,
“From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an electric universe". David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, Thunderbolts of the Gods
SOURCE
Talbott and Thornhill also have a VIDEO that expounds on their electric universe model.
There are other miscellaneous findings I wanted to share, but that's for another post. I wanted to share TD's responses to the most recent questions.
darcon, what it is? You asked,
Originally posted by darcon
When the mass landing happens, do you think the greys (that have been manipulating mankind for a while now) will put up a fight?
I am not sure they are still here, I think the battle has beeen faught already in the background and perhaps "the beyond", not sure really, they are crafty.
There may be some truth to the "agreements" certain grays made with our (and maybe other) governments in the past. All of that, if real, will need to be sorted out when these major shifts/contact events occur (Yes, I said "when" hehe).
Hey, gimme_some_truth!! You asked,
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
First off, I volunteer to time travel.
Welcome!! thank you for volunteering!!
One thing I would like to know is What kind of shape is the world in in the future? Is it better or worse over all?
well there is a bit more struggle that ends, and a lot more happiness for many years
What kind of government system does the United states have?
What kind of government system do other countries such as China,Russia Iraq, Iran have?
it will be a world community and each community sort of governs itself
In the future is there peace in the middle east? if so, How did the middle eastern countries work out all their problems?
of course, that BS is sorted out in the short time of the mass landing.
What is it like in your time? I am from the present
When do/did we first make contacts with aliens?
it has always gone on. ultimately, quantity is the question
What year did the first time travel take place?
1992 for me and those who created the machine
Buenos nachos, unknownfrost!!
Originally posted by unknownfrost
is it too late to 'sign up'? ive always like 'traveling'
For real tho...I would like to travel the sands of time!
Welcome, welcome to the posse!
Cyber_Wasp *New World Order hand shake* heheahah Kidding!! You asked,
Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
Question for TD - Do you remember any of the dudes that went on missions with you? How many people can you remember that you crossed paths with that were also time travelling?
I would have to "guesstimate" at least 20 to 50 and probably much more, I remember lots of dudes and chicks of all ages and races and genders, this is just earth people, other people like pleiades and so many others have equipment too, not sure if it is all from one source.
Thank you all for your posts, insights, and sizeable financial donations. TD said he's fine with me keeping the contributions. hehe
If I could make it all happen now I would. I know TD would too. I've been swept up in all of this, and I can see the signs in my every day life.
I can't escape these things now. In one sense, it's difficult knowing what's ahead, but not getting there fast enough. In another sense, all of this has given my every day existence a strange glow (metaphorically speaking). I'm looking at everything anew, and that includes the Earth, skies (clouds), media, people, everything, in a new and different light...
I know the world around me has changed, but I know that with it I have as well...
Will address the folks helping from behind the scenes in my next post...
Have an excellent week!!
Peace, all...
This post is for all of those folks watching, guiding, helping, and pushing from behind the scenes; this includes those who have
passed on who watch over us, but also those who work in different capacities with the beings on this planet as we move forward in this strange
universe.
I first want to say "I get it." ahah This past week (and of course, prior to it) I have been experiencing the clock synchronicities. I'll look at the clock and it will read 11:11. I'll glance a while later and it will read 12:12, then 1:11, etc. It's happened a couple of times where I will look at it and it will read these numbers.
Also this past week I've had synchronicities involving people. In these cases, I'll be talking about someone I haven't mentioned or heard about in months or years, and that person will call, or someone I've never met will call and refer to that person. These incidents were bunched up this past week. I just want to say "I'm paying attention." hahaa
win 52 said this is normal for him. I'm sure it's happening to more people. TD and I have conversations where he describes strange phenomena happening to him, including tones in the ears, tingling on his head, hearing conversations when no one's around, etc.
I'm just giving a shout out to the folks win 52 and Cyber_Wasp mention in their posts,
Thank you.
Yeah, their calling card. A couple of weekends ago I was at a small gathering (bday party) for a nephew. There were two people taking photos; myself and one other person. All of us were gathered in the kitchen, where we remained for most of the photos. All of the photos were clear except for two photos of me. I'll post a link to one of them here to show you what, aside from the synchronistic events, I'll consider a "calling card".
IMAGE LINK
When I saw this picture my jaw just dropped. I've never, ever seen this many orbs in any photos of myself. I will say this, we are a photo-taking bunch, but somehow photos of me will typically produce orbs; a good amount of them; but never this much. All of the other photos from this camera are crystal clear. A second photo of me and another person taken seconds later shows only a handful of orbs; and in the next photo they're completely gone.
Whatever or whomever is showing up in these photos, their "hello" should be shared with everyone. James Gilliland shares his photos of orbs HERE.
Cyber and win know this to be true. If you don't believe in the time travel stuff, at least believe that there are folks watching over us; whomever you believe that to be.
I just want to say, I get it; and thank you!! Your presence is felt, and your light shines brightly.
To those unsung heroes behind the scenes, rock on!!
I first want to say "I get it." ahah This past week (and of course, prior to it) I have been experiencing the clock synchronicities. I'll look at the clock and it will read 11:11. I'll glance a while later and it will read 12:12, then 1:11, etc. It's happened a couple of times where I will look at it and it will read these numbers.
Also this past week I've had synchronicities involving people. In these cases, I'll be talking about someone I haven't mentioned or heard about in months or years, and that person will call, or someone I've never met will call and refer to that person. These incidents were bunched up this past week. I just want to say "I'm paying attention." hahaa
win 52 said this is normal for him. I'm sure it's happening to more people. TD and I have conversations where he describes strange phenomena happening to him, including tones in the ears, tingling on his head, hearing conversations when no one's around, etc.
I'm just giving a shout out to the folks win 52 and Cyber_Wasp mention in their posts,
Originally posted by win 52
"Know the benevolent race, giving you protection and guidance, as God. Seek your creator as your true source of existence. Trust that you are loved, as parents love their children."
"There are many gods in your world today."
This came in...."If you believed in a flat world, then had a ride into outer space, seeing the earth in all her round splendor, imagine how a person who never believed feels when confronted by the facts? Well, get ready for the facts, because you will soon see all there is to see and know. Make ready for an awakening of global proportions."
Thank you.
Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
I know what you are saying about the benevolent. They work in the background unnoticed by most, but if you are really lucky you may notice their calling card. I have posted about my encounters with them before.
Yeah, their calling card. A couple of weekends ago I was at a small gathering (bday party) for a nephew. There were two people taking photos; myself and one other person. All of us were gathered in the kitchen, where we remained for most of the photos. All of the photos were clear except for two photos of me. I'll post a link to one of them here to show you what, aside from the synchronistic events, I'll consider a "calling card".
IMAGE LINK
When I saw this picture my jaw just dropped. I've never, ever seen this many orbs in any photos of myself. I will say this, we are a photo-taking bunch, but somehow photos of me will typically produce orbs; a good amount of them; but never this much. All of the other photos from this camera are crystal clear. A second photo of me and another person taken seconds later shows only a handful of orbs; and in the next photo they're completely gone.
Whatever or whomever is showing up in these photos, their "hello" should be shared with everyone. James Gilliland shares his photos of orbs HERE.
Cyber and win know this to be true. If you don't believe in the time travel stuff, at least believe that there are folks watching over us; whomever you believe that to be.
I just want to say, I get it; and thank you!! Your presence is felt, and your light shines brightly.
To those unsung heroes behind the scenes, rock on!!
Originally posted by OnTheDeck
I know the world around me has changed, but I know that with it I have as well...
"Change your thoughts and you change your world" -Norman Vincent Peale
"We acquire knowledge through our senses by interpreting our perceptions correctly" -Epicurus
Hey, Prote!! True, true...
I know I've said my piece on our "helpers," but forgot to mention that I'd awoken a couple of days ago (which is when I started thinking about these guides) with a series of thoughts about "interventionist" sorts of scenarios.
In the early morning hours one morning this week, just as I had awoken from sleep, these ideas came to me. I saw flashes of stories or articles I'd read in a somewhat visual form, and with them a situation or scenario that seemed to have been mitigated, prevented or headed off by a seemingly random event or revelation...
I thought this was worth mentioning...May be an acknowledgment of the efforts of those win 52, td, and Cyber_Wasp (and TD) say are helping behind the scenes...
I was thinking that every seemingly or potentially negative or nefarious program or scenario seems to be countered, mitigated, or prevented by some "apparently" accidental or random event, some insider revelation, or other fortuitous event that brings this troublesome topic to light and undermines any possible chance at its coming to fruition.
To me, these "incidents" are more than likely inspired or effected by positive forces, wishing to see our race peacefully join the rest of the intelligent universal races.
In the case of a possible nuclear scenario, we see the news story about the nukes that accidentally ended up on some flight, causing a lot of controversy: accidental or random event hits the mainstream media = potential harbinger, or alert to us of possible nuclear incident. This revelation may have adversely affected some potentially harmful, large scale incident...
As well, all of the war-like rhetoric Bush and his administration (under his lead) had been making about Iran and its supposedly threatening nuclear stance was completely undermined by a study that came out and showed that Iran hadn't been engaged in its nuclear program for at least a decade. If you're looking for war you're not going to find it here. You will not get any support from us. Does this mean a false flag attack on the U.S. will be necessary, with a paper trail leading directly to Iran to initiate a conflict? At the very least...But it's not going to happen anyway.
Project Blue Beam exposure seems to have drawn a lot of attention to, and introduced the possibility of some secret government agency staging a false flag ET attack. This exposure created a healthy skepticism in those who believe contact is occurring, and to be guarded with regard to any perceived negative incidents surrounding more open contact scenarios.
It also potentially completely undermines any such attempt by any government agency going forward, as it prompted a clarification of what could be expected during more open contact scenarios, and a reexamination of contact events to date; which have been on the whole positive and encouraging.
For better or for worse, Phil Schneider's (and others') revelations about freight trains with shackles, internment camps and underground bases in 1995 introduced these dubious programs into the public arena, and I believe affected the "potential" for their usage. the topic of internment camps, underground bases and trains with handcuffs is a hot topic every now and again, and has drawn so much attention to these strange programs (real or imagined) that it would now take an all out slaughter campaign by an extremely large and well-armed military to move the populace to these locations successfully.
This won't happen. Everything we see going on in the public arena is a paper tiger, designed to instill fear, but with no chance of being effected.
Somewhat related to these internment camps is the much talked about threat that some "engineered" virus will be, or has been let loose upon the populace, and that an outbreak, or some other event deemed by President Bush to warrant Martial Law would cause him to do so, thereby effecting some sort of
quarantine or internment camp scenario.
Again, with these revelations circulating so broadly, and with the implied negative intent, the situation would be unmanageable on the order of the scenario outlined above with Phil Schneider. The government would be inviting a total collapse and total chaos.
With regard to any large scale event (i.e., Martial Law, outbreak, nuclear attack, etc.), it's clear to see that it will take place in an extremely tense, sensitive and potentially volatile atmosphere, and under great scrutiny. With all of the forewarning we've had, any one of these scenarios would virtually be a death sentence to our government and society.
With all of these and more (and I include the eruption of Comet Holmes), we are being lead/guided in a certain direction; and those helping us are clearly involved in keeping this peace train on track. That was the clear message to me a couple of mornings ago when I woke up.
Cyber, win and TD have said it, and I believe if you look you can see more than seemingly random events occurring. You can see the signs of those folks hard at work behind the scenes.
Somewhat along these lines (i.e., that from here on out the "good" or "higher" will prevail) is an article that "DoctorWho" posted at TD's website entitled, "A Time Traveler's 'Dangerous Information'".
The article is about a guy named Steve Gibbs, who claims to have received information on building a time machine. Patricia Griffin Ress, author of the book “Dangerous Information: The Further Time-Travel Experiments/Studies of Steven L. Gibbs,” met Gibbs in 1989, the article states. Patricia used the device and talks about her experiences. The article also talks about others' experiences with the device and 2012.
Here is an excerpt of Patricia's experiences,
SOURCE
There were a couple of items in the article that I found interesting. The first was that any object you retrieved from a different time frame would eventually dissolve,
If this is true, it could explain a lot.
The article goes on to talk about something TD has specifically mentioned before - the intention of the user affects the effectiveness of the device. TD has said that if you are "scanned" before you enter a time travel portal and your intentions are not sincere, you will be refused entry.
The article has this to say about intention,
Finally, the article talks about the trouble with the 2012 time frame,
SOURCE
I've read accounts of this before. It's interesting that 2012 is mentioned in the same way here...
I know people have to chuckle that there may be someone selling a time travel device for about $700...You never know. If it gets cheaper, maybe I'll give it a shot. We are able to perform these feats without electronics, so what harm could it do; and how improbable is it that a device could assist us with something we should already be able to do naturally (time travel, OBE, astral travel, etc.).
Hi five to the good guys!!
I know I've said my piece on our "helpers," but forgot to mention that I'd awoken a couple of days ago (which is when I started thinking about these guides) with a series of thoughts about "interventionist" sorts of scenarios.
In the early morning hours one morning this week, just as I had awoken from sleep, these ideas came to me. I saw flashes of stories or articles I'd read in a somewhat visual form, and with them a situation or scenario that seemed to have been mitigated, prevented or headed off by a seemingly random event or revelation...
I thought this was worth mentioning...May be an acknowledgment of the efforts of those win 52, td, and Cyber_Wasp (and TD) say are helping behind the scenes...
I was thinking that every seemingly or potentially negative or nefarious program or scenario seems to be countered, mitigated, or prevented by some "apparently" accidental or random event, some insider revelation, or other fortuitous event that brings this troublesome topic to light and undermines any possible chance at its coming to fruition.
To me, these "incidents" are more than likely inspired or effected by positive forces, wishing to see our race peacefully join the rest of the intelligent universal races.
In the case of a possible nuclear scenario, we see the news story about the nukes that accidentally ended up on some flight, causing a lot of controversy: accidental or random event hits the mainstream media = potential harbinger, or alert to us of possible nuclear incident. This revelation may have adversely affected some potentially harmful, large scale incident...
As well, all of the war-like rhetoric Bush and his administration (under his lead) had been making about Iran and its supposedly threatening nuclear stance was completely undermined by a study that came out and showed that Iran hadn't been engaged in its nuclear program for at least a decade. If you're looking for war you're not going to find it here. You will not get any support from us. Does this mean a false flag attack on the U.S. will be necessary, with a paper trail leading directly to Iran to initiate a conflict? At the very least...But it's not going to happen anyway.
Project Blue Beam exposure seems to have drawn a lot of attention to, and introduced the possibility of some secret government agency staging a false flag ET attack. This exposure created a healthy skepticism in those who believe contact is occurring, and to be guarded with regard to any perceived negative incidents surrounding more open contact scenarios.
It also potentially completely undermines any such attempt by any government agency going forward, as it prompted a clarification of what could be expected during more open contact scenarios, and a reexamination of contact events to date; which have been on the whole positive and encouraging.
For better or for worse, Phil Schneider's (and others') revelations about freight trains with shackles, internment camps and underground bases in 1995 introduced these dubious programs into the public arena, and I believe affected the "potential" for their usage. the topic of internment camps, underground bases and trains with handcuffs is a hot topic every now and again, and has drawn so much attention to these strange programs (real or imagined) that it would now take an all out slaughter campaign by an extremely large and well-armed military to move the populace to these locations successfully.
This won't happen. Everything we see going on in the public arena is a paper tiger, designed to instill fear, but with no chance of being effected.
Somewhat related to these internment camps is the much talked about threat that some "engineered" virus will be, or has been let loose upon the populace, and that an outbreak, or some other event deemed by President Bush to warrant Martial Law would cause him to do so, thereby effecting some sort of
quarantine or internment camp scenario.
Again, with these revelations circulating so broadly, and with the implied negative intent, the situation would be unmanageable on the order of the scenario outlined above with Phil Schneider. The government would be inviting a total collapse and total chaos.
With regard to any large scale event (i.e., Martial Law, outbreak, nuclear attack, etc.), it's clear to see that it will take place in an extremely tense, sensitive and potentially volatile atmosphere, and under great scrutiny. With all of the forewarning we've had, any one of these scenarios would virtually be a death sentence to our government and society.
With all of these and more (and I include the eruption of Comet Holmes), we are being lead/guided in a certain direction; and those helping us are clearly involved in keeping this peace train on track. That was the clear message to me a couple of mornings ago when I woke up.
Cyber, win and TD have said it, and I believe if you look you can see more than seemingly random events occurring. You can see the signs of those folks hard at work behind the scenes.
Somewhat along these lines (i.e., that from here on out the "good" or "higher" will prevail) is an article that "DoctorWho" posted at TD's website entitled, "A Time Traveler's 'Dangerous Information'".
The article is about a guy named Steve Gibbs, who claims to have received information on building a time machine. Patricia Griffin Ress, author of the book “Dangerous Information: The Further Time-Travel Experiments/Studies of Steven L. Gibbs,” met Gibbs in 1989, the article states. Patricia used the device and talks about her experiences. The article also talks about others' experiences with the device and 2012.
Here is an excerpt of Patricia's experiences,
“I happened to meet someone who says, ‘you should contact this guy,’” she said. She did, and invited Gibbs to bring his device to her home in Omaha. What she experienced made her a believer.
“I interviewed Steve and he demonstrated the HDR,” she said. Strange clouds formed in the room when Gibbs turned on the HDR and sparks danced around the chandelier.
No one time traveled, but something life altering happened to her that night. She later caught her favorite movie, “Shane,” on TV, but it wasn’t the same movie she’d seen dozens of times. Dialogue she’d memorized was altered or spoken by different characters. It was the same movie, but it wasn’t.
“I have heard of movies filmed with two different endings, but I’ve never heard that before,” she said. “It scared me to death. If you ask me to see the movie ‘Shane,’ I’d say no thanks.”
She believes that night Gibb’s HDR unit somehow altered the past … and the present.
SOURCE
There were a couple of items in the article that I found interesting. The first was that any object you retrieved from a different time frame would eventually dissolve,
Testimonials from HDR users include trips from the 1850s, to sometime around 2012. Some “travelers” have claimed to return with objects from the past, but the objects have a short shelf life.
“If you have something from a different time frame, it disintegrates,” Ress said.
If this is true, it could explain a lot.
The article goes on to talk about something TD has specifically mentioned before - the intention of the user affects the effectiveness of the device. TD has said that if you are "scanned" before you enter a time travel portal and your intentions are not sincere, you will be refused entry.
The article has this to say about intention,
Gibbs’ device also presents potential time travelers with other problems.
“You have to have good intentions. If you were going to rob a bank and use it to get out of a bank, it wouldn’t work,” Ress said. “It would never work for that.”
That’s because Gibbs claims his HDR units work only with faith in God.
“These coils,” Gibbs writes in his catalog, “are specifically designed to pick-up and amplify soul-induced white light energy.”
In 1997, Gibbs appeared on Art Bell’s paranormal radio program ‘Coast to Coast AM’ and spelled it out to an international audience.
“Since the device, the way I believe, is tuned into the creator … only the people who have pure intentions can use the device,” Gibbs told Bell. “It takes your soul energy … and steps it up through the diode circuit.”
Finally, the article talks about the trouble with the 2012 time frame,
People using the HDR have reported going a few years into the future/past, being transported to Venezuela, dropped onboard a UFO, and have been thrown into a parallel dimension, Ress said. But the most troubling time traveler report, Ress said, is about a problem at the year 2012, the end date for the Mayan calendar.
“They say right around 2012 it’s like a brick wall,” Ress said.
SOURCE
I've read accounts of this before. It's interesting that 2012 is mentioned in the same way here...
I know people have to chuckle that there may be someone selling a time travel device for about $700...You never know. If it gets cheaper, maybe I'll give it a shot. We are able to perform these feats without electronics, so what harm could it do; and how improbable is it that a device could assist us with something we should already be able to do naturally (time travel, OBE, astral travel, etc.).
Hi five to the good guys!!
Hey OTD !!!!!!!!
It is good to hear about your experiences and the new outlook.
I just wonder what is next for us once you have this outlook and why we have been given it. It is sort of like, ok the charade is up. I am on to you guys....lol But what then.
Will they come out of hiding? Might we meet them in the physical?
Everywhere I look I see ET Technology. Everywhere you turn you see the infancy of the technology that is to come.
The guys we are talking about here just didn't place the trees here on Earth. They actually can make the seeds from scratch.
It is good to hear about your experiences and the new outlook.
I just wonder what is next for us once you have this outlook and why we have been given it. It is sort of like, ok the charade is up. I am on to you guys....lol But what then.
Will they come out of hiding? Might we meet them in the physical?
Everywhere I look I see ET Technology. Everywhere you turn you see the infancy of the technology that is to come.
The guys we are talking about here just didn't place the trees here on Earth. They actually can make the seeds from scratch.
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