Obama Attended Madrassa, Says Hillary

You can discuss a political figure and politics on ATS when there's a conspiracy involved...

I'm confused then. Because I thought were originally discussing a conspiracy by hillary to make obama look bad in this thread. And then someone said that it was really a Republican (was that "repug" a typo on your part?) conspiracy to make both dems look bad.

[edit on 1/23/2007 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by semperfortis
I'm sorry..

I thought we were discussing a political figure, and thus politics..

My fault

Semper

Yes but is ANY of this the topic?

Originally posted by semperfortis

Originally posted by grover
Ya know you guys used to call us knee jerk liberals... HA! You guys restless leg syndrome conservatives.

WOO HOOO!!!

Pot calling the kettle black isn't it???

Was it not YOU, that knee jerked the Republican Smear idea first? Did YOU not suggest this before we began making fun of you Liberals blaming everything on Us?

OH OH

Caught

Semper

It's 2 members discussing each other(and their political agenda), not the topic. There's a difference.

Originally posted by centurion1211 And then someone said that it was really a Republican (was that "repug" a typo on your part?) conspiracy to make both dems look bad.

It wasn't a typo. Other members have used that as an insult to republicans. I hate the word, personally.

But that's what happened. The Clinton group were wrongfully being accused of spreading that "news".

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by semperfortis
I'm sorry..

I thought we were discussing a political figure, and thus politics..

My fault

Semper

Yes but is ANY of this the topic?

Originally posted by semperfortis

Originally posted by grover
Ya know you guys used to call us knee jerk liberals... HA! You guys restless leg syndrome conservatives.

WOO HOOO!!!

Pot calling the kettle black isn't it???

Was it not YOU, that knee jerked the Republican Smear idea first? Did YOU not suggest this before we began making fun of you Liberals blaming everything on Us?

OH OH

Caught

Semper

It's 2 members discussing each other(and their political agenda), not the topic. There's a difference.

Oh its alright if Semper talks about me...He has my permission... He's a good guy, he just doesn't know any better.

obama's reply:

hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com...

that should be that but we all know different... it will show up here at least a dozen times between now and the election...I would put money down on it and I am not a betting man.

I wont take that bet... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And Grover,

You know it is in the UTMOST respect...

I meant NO disrespect my friend....

Semper

Originally posted by TheBandit795
The Clinton group were wrongfully being accused of spreading that "news".

Maybe. But then again, considering it's the Clintons, they probably got caught with their pants down and Hillary (who's famous for that fake 'vast right wing conspiracy' finger pointing) is now pointing at the republicans. It wouldn't be the first time the Clintons have tried to deflect from themselves and push it off on republicans.

(btw - 'repugs' shouldn't be allowed. Just like 'dummycraps' shouldn't be either)

Cheese and rice! the man went to school, WOW!

Madrassa translate to school in arabic And he is not even Muslim.

This was clearly an attempt to smear the mark this man is making on the people. What better way to trip him up than have people associate him with Muslims, terrorists or not :shk:

Just adds further reason to dislike that Clinton woman.


[edit on 25-1-2007 by ImJaded]

Fake right wing conspiracy? ROFLMAO! The hard right spent a decade trying to bring Clinton down from various angles from the trumped up Whitewater charges, to nookiegate which was none of Starr's business, he was supposed to be investigating Whitewater, he did not have a carte blanc to go after Clinton period, but took it on himself to do so. Then there was the Arkansas project to dig up any dirt on Clinton, real or fabricated they could find. If that is not a right wing conspiracy I don't know what is.

Still at this late date if it came out that Monica was a plant to snare Clinton it would not surprise me one bit.

What ticks me off about Clinton is that he knew that the right was gunning for him and he couldn't keep it in his pants.

Of course if a young woman flashed me her thong I would tell her to come closer my glasses are fogged up.

Originally posted by snafu7700

has anyone here actually read up on this man? i have always leaned conservative, but i vote my conscience. this man's ideals are above and beyond in my opinion. he actually wants to make a difference...and he keeps his campaign promises. when was the last time you saw a politician on either side of the aisle keep his or her campaign promises?

The man is like a breath of fresh air. hillary should be very afraid because she has nothing to offer the country next to him....except her habitual lies.

Well said! We may not agree on everything snafu7700 but I am right there with you on this one. On the flip side, I have always leaned left, but not Hillary left. I liked Bill Clinton alot, and then I started to learn more and more what he did in his presidency to sell us out. Hillary, is dangerous. I dont believe in her sincerity at all, I believe she is a closet conservative with an agenda. Obama is someone who is like a breath of fresh air. I have not been this excited over a presidential hopeful for some time now. Hillary should be ashamed for doing what she did. Although, she took a page from the Karl Rove book of dirty politics from when the Bush campaign smeared John McCain in the primaries so many years ago...hinting that a black child McCain and his wife adopted was actually McCain's own illegitimate child from another mother. I hate dirty politics.

From the Oral office to the Boardroom of Halliburton--my how times change. In a way I would like to see Hillary win just so I can see all the rhetoric that gets generated afterwards.

The bottom line as far as I can tell is that the conservative Republican movement are a bunch of sore losers and worse winners. The simple reality is after 12 years of Reagan/Bush they just couldn't stand it that their man lost. I distinctly remember in Nov. of 92 Bob Dole saying in a TV interview that there wasn't going to be a honeymoon with Clinton, they were going to scrutinize everything he did. These people had come to think that it was their right to rule (the past 6 years are another example of that) and Jesus Christ himself could have beaten Bush Sr. and it wouldn't have mattered, unless he Christ was a right wing Republican (and some of them think he is), they would have gone gunning for him as well. Then when Bush minor took over there was that flap about the Clinton team breaking typewriters and computers and the like so it would be harder for the Bush team the first few days... after the GAO investigated and found there was nothing to the allegations except more character assassinations, people from the Clinton team demanded an apology... AND, get this, they were told by the Bush people that if they knew what was good for them, they would just shut up. These people have been tacky, arrogant bullies from day one and I for one will be thrilled to see the bastards gone... If it takes voting for Al Sharpton to get them out of there I will.

Every time I see on the news stories about our soldiers maimed or killed and the loved ones they have left behind all because a small, petty little man could say he finished what his father couldn't... I curse the SOB to hell.

We're here .................................................the topics here.
X......................................................................................X

Can we bring them together folks?

Remember? Obama? Hillary?


[edit on 25-1-2007 by intrepid]

reply to post by Keyhole
Wow! The amazing thing here that we should ask ourselves as Americans (no, as humans!) is who doesn't have shady dealings or skeletons in their closet? Anyone that we would like to set up onto a pedestal, be it religious or political is just a target for some exposition of their past mistakes to knock them off of it. I could refer to the Baakers or Swaggart in religion (and many others) or the Bill Clinton "thing", but the bottom line is that none of us should be surprised to learn anything about anyone seeing that we are all just humans.

It would be a wonderful thing to think that someone who claims to be a leader could actually rise above the "rest of humanity" and their "sinful" nature, but I doubt that that is fact.

Obama has handled scandal with grace; first his pot smoking years, his middle name and education, real estate dealings, and now? Now there are a couple of gays alledging sexual encounters with him in his not too distant past that have surfaced on YouTube. Scandal is what feeds us and more is sure to crop up.

I am neither for Obama or for Hillary, but admire Hillary's dignity in handling Bill's "did not have sexual relations" stories with Monica. This lady has intelligence and poise under pressure and I am reminded that females are rarely warmongers and are often compassionate and caring. Maggie Thatcher taught me that females can and often do make exceptional leaders.

Michael in TX

Originally posted by seagull
I don't think he was hiding it, as much as he probably thought it wasn't an issue of great importance...seriously, how many of us care what school anyone went to when they were ten years old?

Mountains out of molehills. But never underestimate the Clinton machines ability to read and influence the public.

I agree, he probably didn't even have a choice in the matter!

Originally posted by LogansRun

Originally posted by snafu7700

has anyone here actually read up on this man? i have always leaned conservative, but i vote my conscience. this man's ideals are above and beyond in my opinion. he actually wants to make a difference...and he keeps his campaign promises. when was the last time you saw a politician on either side of the aisle keep his or her campaign promises?

The man is like a breath of fresh air. hillary should be very afraid because she has nothing to offer the country next to him....except her habitual lies.

Well said! We may not agree on everything snafu7700

but I am right there with you on this one. On the flip side, I have always leaned left, but not Hillary left. I liked Bill Clinton alot, and then I started to learn more and more what he did in his presidency to sell us out. Hillary, is dangerous. I dont believe in her sincerity at all, I believe she is a closet conservative with an agenda. Obama is someone who is like a breath of fresh air. I have not been this excited over a presidential hopeful for some time now. Hillary should be ashamed for doing what she did. Although, she took a page from the Karl Rove book of dirty politics from when the Bush campaign smeared John McCain in the primaries so many years ago...hinting that a black child McCain and his wife adopted was actually McCain's own illegitimate child from another mother. I hate dirty politics.

You know, I am a southern white and a registered republican, but I really like Obama! I like his platform, and you are absolutely right. He is a breath of fresh air. I saw his wife last night on Larry King and she blew me away with her honesty.

There is something special about these people. They remind me quite a bit of John and Jackie Kennedy.

I responded earlier that he probably had no choice in the matter of going to school in Indonesia, he was 10 years old. I also don't remember ever hearing that any terrorists coming form Indonesia.

To spell it out for ya, If Obama wins the democratic nomination he gets my vote; however, should he not I will stay republican!