Have you ever thought that the year 2012 was disinfo & the real date is 2008 and what does it mean?

hi there a new post has been written by her
www.flyingbuffaloes7.net...

it mentions about time and what you were questioning.2008 was the year in which time had to be restarted and now it has failed the world and the universe would start to fracture.

happy new year!(to all light beings)

Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble, but it's 2009.....

i hope mods allow my post to be seen.

So its 2009 and most of you will say that the site was wrong.
thats not true as the financial crises has shown that the system is fracturing


she posts about the 2008 and current evets
www.flyingbuffaloes7.net...

Originally posted by Mr Green
So now its 2009 whats going to happen? Im still confussed as to what actually happened in 2008 regarding this thread. Was it the start of the end? Thing is you could say that about any year couldnt you, like the invention of the nuclear bomb was the start of the end, or the World Wars were the start. So say 2008 was the start of the end, when are we expecting this to actually actually end? Otherwise you could just go on for ever blaming every world tragedy on this. Will we still be posting in this thread in say 2010 saying 2008 was the real 2012?

2008 was the last year to resart time.you can see the evidence that time has not been restarted as the economic crises,political posturing,more earthquakes,volcanoes

hre is a new article about time and current events
www.flyingbuffaloes7.net...



The last of the three Jokers will soon go in shame
The whole world is fading into Darkness
Another year has slipped away
But 2009 will not go unnoticed
It is being watched by those on and off the Earth
Never before has such wild change been at the doorstep
When the threshold is crossed
Everyone will be looking for cover
Some will call for peace
Most will scream for war
When the economic farce is fully exposed
The booms and bangs from guns and bombs
Will soon be heard around the world
What is right and what is wrong will matter little
Fear will drive many and it will overcome most

Be Ready
Be Strong
Be Hopeful
Be Steadfast


and some new posts my thomas paine
www.xeeatwelve.com...

Originally posted by unrealweapon


The last of the three Jokers will soon go in shame
The whole world is fading into Darkness
Another year has slipped away
But 2009 will not go unnoticed
It is being watched by those on and off the Earth
Never before has such wild change been at the doorstep
When the threshold is crossed
Everyone will be looking for cover
Some will call for peace
Most will scream for war
When the economic farce is fully exposed
The booms and bangs from guns and bombs
Will soon be heard around the world
What is right and what is wrong will matter little
Fear will drive many and it will overcome most

Be Ready
Be Strong
Be Hopeful
Be Steadfast

Seems I have underestimated this thread. I treated it as a semi joke often. This thread is no joke, much truth is spoken above.

I have no idea who you are, I dont need to, I see truth in every single word you have wrote. Im not sure about the links but your word is the truth.

2008 was a turning point, it was a year of many battles and much pain for the planet. Fear was used and is still used today, have no fear it will release you.

Many watch over us, most unseen and unheard. They watch and their mission is one of balance, love and hope. Much is done to stop this mission but in the end ALL will return to as it should be, ALL will return to the one.

Accept the love of your creator, surrender to its being totally, cross over into the light, leave the dark controlling fear behind, you have nothing to fear but the fear itself. You are the light itself, they can not take this from you it is yours hold on tight to it and become free.

So mr green do you now believe in xeeatwelve writings or still think that ascension is the only way?.

I am no special person just a avg joe who accidentally discovered this site(btw there are no accidents) and ever since then my life has change.dI am just waiting to be rescued.I ope i have woken many sleeping beings.

Originally posted by unrealweapon
So mr green do you now believe in xeeatwelve writings or still think that ascension is the only way?.

I am no special person just a avg joe who accidentally discovered this site(btw there are no accidents) and ever since then my life has change.dI am just waiting to be rescued.I ope i have woken many sleeping beings.

In my travels I have learnt never to follow anothers teachings, spiritual awakening and the path to it is found inside, it is a lonely path and one that can never be done in groups or web sites. For this reason alone I can not comment on the xeeatwelve teachings. I have followed teachings from others before that were outside of my own heart and they all led to a dead end. Im not saying these teachings are wrong, but for me I can not and never will follow anothers "way".

i do not know the answer you ask, is ascension the only way? Is the whole universe a matrix with the real realm of light outside it? I do not know unrealweapon, all I know is what I feel. I feel I am being guided as is everyone else, guided by beings of the light (some call them guardians, angels, light warriors they have many names) but I sense them more than ever and I now listen to them. I try always to contact my higher self before all others to guide me in decisions of a spiritual nature.

I feel now is a very important time, karmic debt is being worked through at an alarming rate to bring balance back prior to the human ascension. All karmic debt must be served prior to this happening. many sense their lives are becoming out of control , they feel like they are living 6 lives in quick succession one after the other, feeling they are possibly ill, maybe going insane? fear takes over through lack of understanding.

However I found this link of yours www.flyingbuffaloes7.net...

very interesting. This idea of time I totally agree with, how we are controlled by the false sense of time we find our selves in. Time is an illusion for sure...did the annunaki attempt to re set it in 2008? This I do not know.

We are totally absorbed in our past and our future, all illusions of our true time point. the only time we have is the very second we exist in, our now and if we are able to totally live in that one moment, that moment of now, you will see that time does not actually exist at all.





[edit on 15-4-2009 by Mr Green]

again you dont get it.karma is evil,karma is just like interest which can never be paid.karma is never dispensed rightfully.
And there is no ascension.It's over,you have not read the posts properly.The universe is being destroyed thanks to the failure of time to restart(atu-waa).You all have a chance to join the light if you have not given your will.
www.xeeatwelve.com...
Here on the physical plane, the evil lords of Karma, through their so-called laws of "cause and effect" have caused much pain, suffering, fear and confusion. Karma was never dispensed justly. People are not aware that there is such a thing called astral karma as well as karma in this physical world.

Karma is evil.

Even in the astral world, one is subjected to the astral "laws" of karma. Astral beings are forced to re-incarnate again and again for reasons that are based upon lies. In the astral, one is forced or coaxed into believing that one has to do this or that in order to rid oneself of astral debts in order to attain liberation from the astral rebirths.

If this is true, one has the horrible task of ridding oneself of the unjust karma. It is unjust because, contrary to its claim, karma is not administered fairly, even though its main claim is that "you reap what you sow." This is not always true. Karma is carried out in such a way as to make sure the true beings are always being disadvantaged.

www.xeeatwelve.com...
Karma is understood as being a just law of cause and effect. Unfortunately this is not true. Karma is not a just system. Karma is evil. Few people know or suspect that karma is evil. The true God of Light did not impose such an evil system on this planet or anywhere else. Under this law, any one who incarnates on this plane has to abide by the law. It is not just and impersonal at all. It is imposed by Evil to exploit, manipulate and control humans. Contrary to what the Cosmic wants us to believe, this law is unjustly applied with favouritism. It was designed in such a way that in total, true beings were unjustly punished. It is a way of trapping people in a no-win situation for its own evil, selfish purpose.

Indeed, most people do not suspect that karma is a perfect trap set up by the Cosmic (the Usurper) to bring people back again and again through the wheels of incarnation. Misfortune is believed to be bad deeds done in a previous or present incarnation which is now catching up with the victim of misfortune and conversely, good fortune is regarded as a reward for past good deeds. Hence, people are taught not to interfere with karma.

The truth is, all suffering results in the production of emotional energy which prospers the Cosmic. The Cosmic depends on a constant supply of energy for its creation. In every lifetime mistakes are made so retribution according to this law of karma is never ending! Thus, like all the rest, everyone is trapped. How can karma be fair when so many factors, such as programming are dictating the actions of people? Fortunately the Board of Karma which dispenses it is finished. It appears to be continuing at present because of "unseen computers" which have been programmed to function and communicate with those down here just as the Lords of Karma did.



[edit on 16-4-2009 by unrealweapon]

Originally posted by unrealweapon



The last of the three Jokers will soon go in shame

These are Nations arnt they...are these three great Nations? Say America, Russia and UK? something just tells me these Nations figure in this somehow, not sure why but tonight in meditation I saw these 3 great flags and Im not sure why then I remembered you saying about the 3 will fall. Maybe its nothing to do with this, thats the thing with visions and images you never really know what they are about as its all so random. There was something else with these flags but I couldnt work out what it was, some great round metal thing of great size???

I get the number 7:11 a lot and couple that with 11:11.

If time was ready to restart in 2008, I'd think it would just restart, there could be a mechanism which is the trigger and we have the governements altering the weather systems which in turn leads up to fear and the information abput the alien races is designed for fear.

Hinduism is known as a dharma religion and it embodies kudalini energy and chakras, quite how it would connect to dark energies and earth destruction as it is moving to the golden light, as the yug's say, it wasn't until the Dwarpar Yug man was eating meat? so we weren't always eating meat and the way for light is not to eat meat.

I can feel in myself that 2012 (Mayans AND Taoism) both link this to an end, the end of suffering as we go to a just society and the age of Aquarius would be with the two planets of Uranus and Saturn. Well if we we look at it analytically, we can see these two planets promote humanity and the following for saturn (which is taken from Wikipedia)

Ancient observations

Saturn has been known since prehistoric times.[58] In ancient times, it was the most distant of the five known planets in the solar system (excluding Earth) and thus a major character in various mythologies. In ancient Roman mythology, the god Saturnus, from which the planet takes its name, was the god of the agricultural and harvest sector.[59] The Romans considered Saturnus the equivalent of the Greek god Kronos.[59] The Greeks had made the outermost planet sacred to Kronos,[60] and the Romans followed suit.

In Hindu astrology, there are nine astrological objects, known as Navagrahas. Saturn, one of them, is known as "Sani" or "Shani," the Judge among all the planets, and by everyone accordingly to their own performed deeds bad or good.[59] Ancient Chinese and Japanese culture designated the planet Saturn as the earth star (土星). This was based on Five Elements which were traditionally used to classify natural elements. In ancient Hebrew, Saturn is called 'Shabbathai'. Its angel is Cassiel. Its intelligence, or beneficial spirit, is Agiel (layga), and its spirit (darker aspect) is Zazel (lzaz). In Ottoman Turkish, Urdu and Malay, its name is 'Zuhal', derived from Arabic زحل.

So lump them both together, you can say it is "Time for Humanity".

Just things I feel within myself as I to believe the love and light rather than the darker elements as they still have to get lights as well. The below is from Wiki and is my thoughts as well.

Albert Amao, Ph.D.

Amao states that the transition period between any two ages is based on two degrees' leeway at the point of intersection of two adjoining zodiacal constellations.[12] Based on this transitional structure, Amao has the Age of Aquarius commencing in 1948 with the transitional period from the Pisces age to Aquarian age covering the period 1876 to 2020. Amao follows the causative approach to the ages and believes that the energy from the arriving constellation of Aquarius is actually creating the changes on Earth that many astrologers associate with the Age of Aquarius.[13] The key characteristics of the Aquarian age according to Amao are: science; disbelief in God; knowledge and reason; freedom and equality, equality of the sexes and of religion; space exploration, supremacy of the USA over the former Pisces supremacy of Europe; and finally revelation of the Mystery.[14]

Amao also states that the Mayan Long Count calendar, that has an end-date of December 21, 2012, is associated with precession of the equinoxes and therefore can provide an important demarcation for the Age of Aquarius. Another technique used by Amao is the longterm conjunction cycle of the planets Saturn and Jupiter that will have a conjunction of these two planets at the very beginning of the sign Aquarius in 2020. Combined with the closing transition date of 2020 derived from the one degree cusp method, Amao is fully convinced that we lie at the threshold of the Aquarian age.[15]

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no you have not got it right.Hinduism is basaically worshiping the devil,demiurge.It is also corrupted.Time ended in 2008 and now we are in a world where matter is fracturing.I have said again that the only thing that will happen is that it will be far worse than 2009.Similarly 2020 would be even more worse than 2012.

REad the entire thread.
astrology totally negates free will.Astrology is also evil.

Originally posted by unrealweapon
again you dont get it.karma is evil,karma is just like interest which can never be paid.karma is never dispensed rightfully.
And there is no ascension.It's over,you have not read the posts properly.The universe is being destroyed thanks to the failure of time to restart(atu-waa).You all have a chance to join the light if you have not given your will.

Remember one important point: To break the bondage of karma here and in the astral, you should not accept karma. Instead, you should do what your heart or your essence feels right about at any particular time.

I find your post on karma very interesting. Above is a part from it. We should not accept karma? this goes against centuries of teachings you do realize this Im sure. How can we not accept karma, its felt in our lives every day. You say instead we should do what feels right at any particular time...well usually most of us would feel we should do the "right" thing but whos to say this whont just lead to more karma???

I believe the way out of karma is love and forgiveness. Its not judging others. Forgiveness for someone who has harmed or caused the deaths of your loved ones, your children is very hard, and a process that could take longer than one lifetime. However, forgiveness, and an attempt to unravel the reasons for the dysfunction of others, for healing, redemption (spiritual and holistic well being rather than a traditional scriptural one), and to wish others to move forward and advance. To see more the innocence in all people, even in the worse cases, even in the cabal for example who to me are the worst psychos going, to see them as the children that came into the world and who quickly lost their chance to evolve metaphysically, holistically.

Forgiveness, both forgiving self and others, learning from the lessons where healing has reached a point that this is possible, and moving ahead, undoes karma. Its actually over karma's head so to speak. I don't support karma by the way. I support forgiveness, healing, redemption, and soul evolution. Which was why hidden hand's thread really upset me. He was off to increase his negativity and do horrible things to others, so he could have 90 or 95% negative, to save himself, to ensure he made it to this other 3d world where they could work out their evolution. This was his story.

What an excuse! The real work was to take responsibility for healing and seek forgiveness and soul work. Time is irrelvant. If a disaster or a harvest of the human race is going to happen 3 years from now, or tomorrow, the intent to do this is not tied to time. A nanosecond is all our Creator needs.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by mystiq]

have you read all of the psots.the creator is evil.You dont even know the real story and are talking about new age stuff like love.THe demiurge rejects all love and harnesses its energy.

simply put matter is going to be destroyed and the evil universe would soon be destroyed.So type all ascension and creator stuff cuz all haters are gonna go into non existence.

The Creator or what is mentioned in the Scriptures as a warmongler, or another way of putting it Enki/Enlil type, is not what I'm talking about. But the actual premise that the true Creator/God that is all of us is not truly Love and Goodness and light years beyond the controlling religions we have, then that information is disinfo, and it flies in the personal truths and experiences of many. We're evolving here. I was a believer in some of this "new age" stuff as its called now before I ever knew it even existed, since I was young, because I knew the truth in my heart.

you have not read her posts.the universe is a creation of demiurge.

not everyone in this world is from the divine realm,
there are true light beings which are from the divine realm,there are false light beings who are from this world and then the artificially annunaki beings who are in control of this planet.

we are not here for evolution,we are trapped for energy to run this evil system.

its the matrix

Originally posted by unrealweapon

we are not here for evolution,we are trapped for energy to run this evil system.

its the matrix

While I dont and cant accept the way of one (as in your web link) as I feel its spiritually dangerous and very limiting in ones progression, I do think there may be some truth in what you have wrote above. It is entirely possible that we are here just for energy to power the matrix. I also believe however that there is a part of us they can never control or leech, a part of us that is forever above being controlled.

new post
www.flyingbuffaloes7.net...

the end is soon!

[edit on 5-9-2009 by xeeatwelve]

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Nice message if which most of it I agree. I have forgot the background to this thread I will have to have a read over it again.

[edit on 6-9-2009 by Mr Green]