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UK Channel 4, aired 15th January 2007.
Radicalisation of UK mosques by Saudi Wahabbism
Undercover Mosque
Broadcast: Monday 15 January
A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers…
Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.
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Originally posted by DeMitsuko
someday this will blow up in your faces. and ill sit here in israel with my friends and we all gonna be like: "told you so!".
i predict that in less then 30 years major civil war will break in either UK or france... good luck.
Originally posted by Mdv2
What do you suggest? That we kill all Muslims like the Nazis killed all Jews. Do you like that idea? Lieberman does and Israeli newspapers claim many Israeli's share his ideas.
Originally posted by Mdv2
No we won't kick all Muslims out of their countries, we won't destroy their houses, we won't kill their their children, we won't destroy their lives. No, fortunately, we have not such a government like yours.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Nobody will do anything about it. As far as I can tell everyone can see whats coming but nobody wants to hurt anyones feelings, or some "I hate Israel" nut jumps out with putting everyone in camps and shooting all the men, like thats a feasable solution to anyone. The real solution is certainly not ignoring them, or gassing them all. Its somewhere in between. But if its caught between "I hate Israel" and "Lets just leave them alone" we'll never find it.
Freedom was fun while it lasted I guess. Which ways Mecca?
Originally posted by fiftyfifty
Do they class atheists as Kaffur? Why do they only refer to Christians and jews? what about all the other religions that don't follow these extreme beliefs?
This article is about an Islamic term. For other uses of the word, see Kaffir (disambiguation).
Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning an unbeliever, a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth. In cultural terms, it is a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, a Muslim of a differing sect, or an apostate from Islam. It is usually translated into English as "infidel" or "unbeliever".
Debate exists between some Muslim scholars as to whether the term applies to Jews and Christians, as these can also be regarded as Dhimmi, or People of the Book. It has been used historically to identify Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, and followers of non-denominational religions or local, pagan traditions. Some distinguish between Kafir and non-Muslims, as Kafir is used by the Qur'an for people, who were guilty of rejection or non-acceptance of the truth, even after it has become fully apparent to them, while non-Muslim is primarily a term implying a person, who does not ascribe to the Islamic faith.[2]
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Originally posted by DeMitsuko
someday this will blow up in your faces. and ill sit here in israel with my friends and we all gonna be like: "told you so!".
i predict that in less then 30 years major civil war will break in either UK or france... good luck.
Originally posted by DeMitsuko
im not suggesting nothing, your country is already messed up and its not my problam that you dont care.
Originally posted by DeMitsuko
as i said you cant do nothing now your all too humble to do somthing and salvage your culture but i guess its ok with you.
Originally posted by DeMitsuko
and when i say "doing somthing" i dont mean kill them all... stoping immigration will be far more productive.
Originally posted by DeMitsuko
oh and i love how you bring your "israel hating" into any subject. i imagine you with a grumpy face all day "errrrr i hate them..."
Originally posted by kleverone
When? What day? OMG please tell me?? I need to know?? How does this happen? What can I do???
Originally posted by kleverone
If you are sitting in Israel when this happens then its my guess you will be sitting on a green glass parking lot.
Originally posted by shots
In the for what it is worth department here is what wiki has to say.
This article is about an Islamic term. For other uses of the word, see Kaffir (disambiguation).
Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning an unbeliever, a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth. In cultural terms, it is a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, a Muslim of a differing sect, or an apostate from Islam. It is usually translated into English as "infidel" or "unbeliever".
Debate exists between some Muslim scholars as to whether the term applies to Jews and Christians, as these can also be regarded as Dhimmi, or People of the Book. It has been used historically to identify Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, and followers of non-denominational religions or local, pagan traditions. Some distinguish between Kafir and non-Muslims, as Kafir is used by the Qur'an for people, who were guilty of rejection or non-acceptance of the truth, even after it has become fully apparent to them, while non-Muslim is primarily a term implying a person, who does not ascribe to the Islamic faith.[2]
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Hope that answers your question.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I guess I have to make more clear posts or something.
Overwhelmingly people dislike having psychotic Imams and militants in their towns, states, countrys but everyone know theyre there. What a previous poster amntioned about a coming war in Europe over these militants who refuse to assimilate and actively fight against them is absolutely true. Id put money on it. But if anyone tries to pass immigration reforms or limit welfare benfits to discourage their arrival enmasse sombody always comes up with ridiculous civil rights violation arguments of a "slippery slope" nature assuming that the end all is the government putting people in concentration camps and killing indesciminately.
someday this will blow up in your faces. and ill sit here in israel with my friends and we all gonna be like: "told you so!".
Originally posted by Mdv2
So you are suggesting something. Let me ask you again, what is it you are suggesting? Well, if we compare the EU to Israel it's pretty obvious which of the two is ''messed up'' and that's Israel. Compare the daily violence of both.
Originally posted by Mdv2
The European is not a prison or concentration camp surrounded by walls. Most Muslims living in the EU are hard working people who don't hate our way of living.
Originally posted by Mdv2
Why would I hate Israel? I am against your government, apparently many of your countrymen as well as they put your prime minister and others under pressure to resign.
Originally posted by Mdv2
Be more careful in choosing words you use, particularly when yo are incapable of constructing such an accusation as ''hating Israel''. Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word ''hate''. I'll tell you something, I'm also against the current US administration and no, I don't like Bush, but hating him something totally different and it doesn't mean I ''hate'' Americans, which would be the case in accordance to your flawed logic. Hopefully you are capable enough of understanding that.
"Hatred" is also used to describe feelings of prejudice, bigotry or condemnation (see shunning) against a person, or a group of people, such as racism, and intense religious or political prejudice.