Steven Greer at LA Conscious Life Expo

Originally posted by tock
Steven was talking about a Hostile Take over of one major media outlet.
Would that be possible?

That would all depend on if the government let you...

Originally posted by kroms33

Originally posted by millerman

Well you're never going to see it on a major news network.... and one of the reasons is, suppose a craft touches down and some ETs come out - and they look EXACTLY like us but with say bigger ears, like Spock.... can you imagine the reaction from the public??

My thing is: when the O'Hare UFO happened in Chicago (and I live in Chicago), it was all over the news - damned near the head story. Just 2 weeks ago a couple networks did a story about the UFO's seen around Chicago - and I actually e-mailed a news anchor and got a response. Also - you have to remember that the Phoenix lights and the Mexican Air Force UFOs where international news - and coverage ranged from Cable TV networks right down to standard broadcast TV news.... so for you to say they would never air something like that... I don't think you have been watching the news. They are commenting more and more on UFOs not as fiction - but reality.

Sure, because UFOs flying around in the sky is no longer "big news" really. The powers-that-be are certainly aware of all the UFO footage all over the Internet, they're certainly aware of the DP press conference and things like that. So showing a UFO flying around on TV isn't really a big deal any more - but notice we don't get to see WHO OR WHAT IS INSIDE IT.

Heck - they even put that Prophet Yahweh guy on - and Greer isn't as half as crazed as that guy.

Sure they'll put "Prophet Yahweh" on TV - because he's a total mockery of Greer!

The point I was trying to make is.... according to DP witness Clifford Stone and others, there are at LEAST 57 different types of ETs - but many of them look ALMOST IDENTICAL TO US! So much so that they could walk around in public and people would not even realize that they are ETs!

Now that opens up a GIANT Pandora's box!

Because it introduces the possibility that at pretty much any time in our history, we could have been INFILTRATED BY ETs! And not these absurd Shapeshifting Reptilians ala David Icke, but ETs that look just like us!

And indeed there are even vague references to this in the Bible, like the Elohim and Nephilim or whatever.... although I'm not a Bible scholar so I don't really know any more than that....

But can you imagine the reaction if it dawns on the masses that our planet could have been infiltrated for thousands of years, that the whole history of our world could have been hijacked? That it's possible that ETs have been RULING us for thousands of years??

So that is why I say, we may NEVER see an open-contact event on a major news network - because imagine the public's reaction when the craft opens up and HUMANS walk out!

OMG Millerman, that would rock their socks
That would be Fantastic! Another slap in the face to the scientific and religious community.

You got it tock..... everybody beginning to see how all the puzzle pieces fit together? ;-)

Originally posted by millerman
You got it tock..... everybody beginning to see how all the puzzle pieces fit together? ;-)

See, we are not all on board of the Greer bandwagon - so no, not really. We don't all subscribe to the same beliefs, so its impossible for us all to agree. UFO enthusiasts agree something is going on - but we are all still in the dark.

Every time I think of Greer - not to be disrespectful - "Beware of false prophets" pops into my head... and I am not kidding. I just get this gut feeling about him.

Perhaps its just me - but I was always taught to trust your instincts when all else fails.

It's fine that Tock and Millerman like Greer - we are all on the same side, but we all see the puzzle different from the way Greer and you both see it.

Originally posted by kroms33

Originally posted by millerman
You got it tock..... everybody beginning to see how all the puzzle pieces fit together? ;-)

See, we are not all on board of the Greer bandwagon - so no, not really. We don't all subscribe to the same beliefs, so its impossible for us all to agree. UFO enthusiasts agree something is going on - but we are all still in the dark.

Every time I think of Greer - not to be disrespectful - "Beware of false prophets" pops into my head... and I am not kidding. I just get this gut feeling about him.

Well the point I was trying to make has nothing to do with Greer; that's coming from Clifford Stone, and other whistleblowers and contactees.

And I find it interesting that you had absolutely nothing to say about my idea, but turned it into an opportunity to speak negatively about Greer.....

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

Come on Krom, drop the Steven Greer hate subject just for a moment.

Wow, with a bombshell like completely human-looking ETs, and the possibility of the infiltration of our world..... I'm surprised everybody's being so quiet about it??

Discuss?

You can pick up this thread about aliens living among us, if you want. It deals with the paranoia in high circles about infiltration by extraterrestrials.

Oh, I see you posted in it already...



[edit on 19-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Originally posted by tock
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

Come on Krom, drop the Steven Greer hate subject just for a moment.

Ok... how was anything in my last post hateful?

Please, please stop making comments like that. Or do you want me mad or something?

I just can't believe you said that - it was totally respectful to everything... unbelievable.


I have skimmed through this thread - and I just have to note: You have been beyond rude - even to mods. I think its high time you stop being so rude to people - because your little childish rantings are starting to piss me off... I have been more then nice - and for you to say that my last post was part of the 'hate Greer' subject - perhaps you need better reading lessons.

(trying to figure out what Tocks problem is...)

[edit on 3/19/2007 by kroms33]

Originally posted by millerman

Originally posted by kroms33

Originally posted by millerman
You got it tock..... everybody beginning to see how all the puzzle pieces fit together? ;-)

See, we are not all on board of the Greer bandwagon - so no, not really. We don't all subscribe to the same beliefs, so its impossible for us all to agree. UFO enthusiasts agree something is going on - but we are all still in the dark.

Every time I think of Greer - not to be disrespectful - "Beware of false prophets" pops into my head... and I am not kidding. I just get this gut feeling about him.

Well the point I was trying to make has nothing to do with Greer; that's coming from Clifford Stone, and other whistleblowers and contactees.

And I find it interesting that you had absolutely nothing to say about my idea, but turned it into an opportunity to speak negatively about Greer.....

You and Tock - I leave you to your own mess. You see its the way you treat people - you lose credibility and no one wants to deal with either of you. I never meant to be disrespectful - I even stated it. Since you and Tock like to make a mockery of things and blow things out of proportion go have fun. I for one - and I am sure many others will steer clear of you both. There is no point in arguing with religious fanatics - they are always right - as you and Tock are always right...

One day, hopefully both of you will quit being fanatical and come back down to earth to help investigate this with the rest of us... until then - enjoy your 'ride' on the Greer band wagon of lunacy. And YES, that was meant to be disrespectful. You want EVERYONE to respect GREER but NEVER respect anyone else's opinions. Your both as close minded as any fundamentalist.

Maybe that's because your interventions reek of upgraded debunking.

Darn, was my last thread rude?
I didn't mean to be, but why so much hate, and anger?
I was rude to a moderator? When was that?

Originally posted by Thodeph
Maybe that's because your interventions reek of upgraded debunking.

Oh give me a break, that is such a coy and ignorant response.

FINE I am a debunker because I don't like Greer - have it your way. That's right, UFOs and ETs don't exist - just because I saw 2 ufos in my life - doesn't mean I am right... because I am a lackie of the government. YAWN!!! Get over yourself.

Thodeph - Upgraded debunking because I don't like Greer???

You HAVE to be joking - because, your sure making me laugh.

Originally posted by kroms33

Originally posted by millerman

Well the point I was trying to make has nothing to do with Greer; that's coming from Clifford Stone, and other whistleblowers and contactees.

And I find it interesting that you had absolutely nothing to say about my idea, but turned it into an opportunity to speak negatively about Greer.....

You and Tock - I leave you to your own mess. You see its the way you treat people - you lose credibility and no one wants to deal with either of you. I never meant to be disrespectful - I even stated it. Since you and Tock like to make a mockery of things and blow things out of proportion go have fun.

Look, I made a well-reasoned point, backed up by testimony from CLIFFORD STONE - NOT Greer.

According to CLIFFORD STONE, many of the ET races look just like us.

People complain on and on about not being able to see these contact events on CNN or whatever - but just think about what the reaction of the public would be if they showed one, and a craft touched down, and ETs that look JUST LIKE WE DO stepped out!

Mass shock, paranoia.... thousands of years of religious beliefs flushed down the toilet in an instant.... what if they've been here all along, what if they've infiltrated us, what if we're not really natives of Earth but we were placed here by them or were one of their offshoot colonies, what if they tampered with our DNA.....

I made a WELL-REASONED argument, which you said NOTHING about - but instead went back to calling GREER a False Prophet - GREER, not CLIFFORD STONE, the witness I was actually talking about!

Which leads people to conclude, astonishingly enough, that you are not here to engage in well-reasoned debates, but you are here to simply try to mock and discredit Greer as much as possible!

And the more you do things like this..... the more foolish you make yourself look.

[edit on 19-3-2007 by millerman]

Given that Greer is the subject of the thread and spearhead of the DP I think krom's been fairly objective. Everyone has their own opinion regarding all the evidence so far, I can't see a near future where we'll all agree on the speculative details. That includes evidence by individuals such as Stone, Corso, Lazar or anyone else you want to throw into the mix.

The main point of consensus is that we are getting a raw deal from the PTB regarding disclosure. So we should focus on that, and I think the overwhelming voice of reason is asking Greer do the same, rather than going out on a limb with the 'new age' stuff.

And I can tell u one thing even if they do land on the whitehouse lawn, or attack a city, or send us a box of space-candy, I'll be switching on my bulls**t detector and cranking it to 11.

Greer should use his ET protocol to summon a couple two three interdimensional lightmasters for the Expo and we can get some real teaching. Or at least quasi-dematerialize into a shimmering lightbody in front of everyone.

Turns out that one is a little iffy all by itself:

Cease and desist letter

Looks like Greer exaggerated his contact. Hmmm.

Originally posted by schuyler
Turns out that one is a little iffy all by itself:

Cease and desist letter

Looks like Greer exaggerated his contact. Hmmm.

That's not going to fly schy.

Look at the date of the letter.

Dr Greer continues to tell the story in his 2006 Hidden book and every book he has ever published and in all of his seminars.

The part of the story that you don't know and nobody bothered to post on that site is that Dr Greer has the Fed Ex in Woolsey's hand that states the real purpose of the meeting.

That's why Dr Greer has never 'ceased and desisted'.

reply to post by elysiumfire


you are still telling us to put him out of sight and out of mind. is that what you always do when someone refuses to do something you think he should do?

do you not understand that by withholding the evidence he has until congress allows for open hearings, he is protecting the lives of these brave witnesses willing to come forward? they were practically shaking at the national press club conference. major props to them for standing up for what they think is right.