Steven Greer at LA Conscious Life Expo

it wouldnt surprise me if ETs learned english or any earth language. But it would astound me if they spoke their own language in an american accent lol!

Originally posted by yeti101
it wouldnt surprise me if ETs learned english or any earth language. But it would astound me if they spoke their own language in an american accent lol!

Yeti, what language do those ET's that you are in contact with speak? Since you are from England, I wouldn't be suprised if they have a British accent. lol
But as for those ITC voices that I get, I have no idea who a lot of those voices are. So far, for one's who have not identified themselves, the only answer I get from those ones are that they are 'messengers'.

I'm jumping in kind of late in the game here, but I just finished reading this entire thread and I thought I'd throw in my .02....

The question was raised, "Why isn't Greer's proof all over the major media, why won't he come forward and release all his proof?"

I feel I should point out, sometime last year there was a special on ABC, hosted by Peter Jennings, and according to Greer he gave them EVERYTHING, all his pictures and footage, documents, everything he had.... and what ended up showing on ABC was a "dog and pony" show, a carnival act....

They used NONE of the footage he had given them, and instead they had all these seemingly credible scientists and authority figures going "ah, yep, UFOs are still a big mystery....."

Which reinforces the point I've been making in the other Greer thread.... the mainstream media is still tightly controlled and sanitized by the real powers-that-be in the government, and they simply WILL NOT allow the proof to come out in the media....

Also, to those demanding proof.... what level of footage would you consider satisfactory? I mean he could show a video of a craft touching down, and opening up, and obvious extraterrestrial beings walking out, ala 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.... and I'm sure everybody would be screaming "oh come on, that's SO 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind', he obviously got together with some film studio and used special effects and CGI to produce that....."

I mean we have reached the point where we can produce FAKE videos that are far more realistic than anything Greer could produce at a real live contact event! How do we tell what's real and what's produced any more?

Also, I'm surprised no one ever seems to ask this question: what if the ETs have GOOD REASONS for not touching down and getting out of their craft and walking around?

What if they are prohibited from doing so by the 'Galactic Federation' or whatever? What if they have something similar to the Prime Directive from Star Trek, that prohibits them from interacting with humans on that level? Maybe they are only allowed to fly around in the sky and make their presence known, but not directly interfere with our world....

What if they have legitimate safety concerns? What if they have been SHOT AT and killed before, as some of the DP witnesses claim? Maybe they're afraid someone will pull out a gun and start shooting if they get out of their crafts?

What if they can't breathe our atmosphere?

What if their home planet is a very different size than ours and we have either too much or too little force of gravity for them to get out and walk around?

Just some food for thought....

Also, "GreerIsAFraud" raised the issue of him claiming to be able to levitate.

I don't have my copy of the book handy, but from what I remember, he never claimed to be able to levitate AT WILL. Only that once, in the middle of one especially mystical experience, he started to levitate off the ground a couple feet, and as soon as his critical mind kicked in and he thought "what the hell, I'm levitating?!", he dropped right back down. And I don't remember anything about him levitating two cars or whatever. Do you have a page number for that?

As for the claim that black ops people gave him cancer.... the actual claim is that himself, his assistant Shari Adamiak, a US congressman they were working closely with at the time, AND his pet dog, ALL got the exact same kind of cancer AT THE SAME TIME. Too big of a coincidence, to be a coincidence. The claim is that a specific type of directed energy weapon which can affect people at the cellular level was used to do this....

Oh yeah well someone should tell Greer about YouTube. May not involve him getting paid however..

I buy the DVD anyway, quality is better, at least when I want quality DVD to be able to show someone else. And it helps the organisation to keep doing what they do.
Youtube videos are crappy sometimes.

At some point people might realise that, a Non profit organisation cannot live without support.

And its not like if the copyrigthed material from our favorite organisation don't end on Video Google anyway...which hurt them.

Originally posted by millerman
As for the claim that black ops people gave him cancer.... the actual claim is that himself, his assistant Shari Adamiak, a US congressman they were working closely with at the time, AND his pet dog, ALL got the exact same kind of cancer AT THE SAME TIME. Too big of a coincidence, to be a coincidence. The claim is that a specific type of directed energy weapon which can affect people at the cellular level was used to do this....

No wonder representatives aren't too eager in exposing this. That congressman should be Steve Schiff. There's a real epidemic of cancers among ufo whistleblowers.
www.ufoarea.com...


[edit on 18-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Oh yeah well someone should tell Greer about YouTube. May not involve him getting paid however..

That is a thought, that or Google video....

Maybe somebody could get in touch with "Debbie" and request some of their best footage?

Originally posted by Thodeph

No wonder representatives aren't too eager in exposing this. That congressman should be Steve Schiff. There's a real epidemic of cancers among ufo whistleblowers.
www.ufoarea.com...

[edit on 18-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Thanks for that Thodeph!

I believe that there are many in the US Congress and government that want to do something about the UFO cover-up, but they are terrified of the rogue group that has the black technologies, for exactly this sort of reason.....

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Oh yeah well someone should tell Greer about YouTube. May not involve him getting paid however..

Amen Brother!

There are TONS of FREE media resources to leak the information out to the public...

Originally posted by kroms33

Amen Brother!

There are TONS of FREE media resources to leak the information out to the public...

Sure, it's all over the Internet already, and alternative radio and news publications.....

But there's always going to be that segment of people who won't believe anything until it has that "official" stamp of government approval on it, like showing it on CNN or NBC or whatever.....

Originally posted by millerman

Originally posted by kroms33

Amen Brother!

There are TONS of FREE media resources to leak the information out to the public...

Sure, it's all over the Internet already, and alternative radio and news publications.....

But there's always going to be that segment of people who won't believe anything until it has that "official" stamp of government approval on it, like showing it on CNN or NBC or whatever.....

Agreed, that is why we have to put our beliefs aside and push the world into disclosure. While we may disagree on some of the issues, I think that it is time for all UFO organizations to unite and shove this right into the publics face. We have the means to do it - everyone interested in this subject has the means to 'fight the power'.

There needs to be a massive internet campaign to spark media interest (I am currently working on a project to push this forward). There are ways to circumvent getting the 'official' stamp - various news agencies in the USA have reported on UFOs - such as the Phoenix lights, Mexican Air Force UFOs, and the O'Hare UFO have garnered huge media attention (internationally).
If there was a massive push by everyone interested (over 75% of Americans) then it would generate a 'snowball' effect that the government could not stop.
I don't think that the major news networks are the 'end all be all' to get this out into the publics eye though.

i.e. get the most common internet search from being porn to being UFOs...

[edit on 3/18/2007 by kroms33]

Steven was talking about a Hostile Take over of one major media outlet.
Would that be possible?
For example, the population buys all the shares of FOX news... and we become majority owners and then... we start spreading the word about UFO?

That would rock

Originally posted by tock

Originally posted by Philip3
Tock,

Many thanks for your posts to ATS over the past few months, I have really enjoyed reading them all.

Do you live in the UK?

If so, do you have any plans to put into practice what you learned with Dr. Greer last year and hold a similar event at some location here in the UK with a small group of people?

My pleasure.
I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

I'm going to start a CE-5 group as soon as the weather is warmer, we are in the -25c these days here...cooolddd.

There is not very much people that have followed the training and knows how to do all this, but I can probably see on the CSETI forums if any of them live near you. If you want to start doing stuff while waiting to get in touch with a group, you can learn a meditation technique of your choice, or order Steven's CD on his website, that's how i got started with all this. I had results in about 5-6 weeks, doing this about 2-3 times a week.

You can U2U me if you want more info.

[edit on 10-3-2007 by tock]

Hi Tock,

Many thanks for your post to me. I am unable to U2U at the moment as I have not posted enough messages. Would it be possible for you to email me at [email protected]? That way I can respond without bugging everyone else with my correspondance to you.

Many thanks once again. I hope its a little warmer for you today, its snowing here as well now!

Phil

Darn, we were on grass 2 days ago, and we received near 1 foot of snow
Gotta love climat change... heard a flock of wild geese 3 nights ago , very messed up.

I'll contact you by email.

Originally posted by kroms33

Agreed, that is why we have to put our beliefs aside and push the world into disclosure. While we may disagree on some of the issues, I think that it is time for all UFO organizations to unite and shove this right into the publics face. We have the means to do it - everyone interested in this subject has the means to 'fight the power'.

There needs to be a massive internet campaign to spark media interest (I am currently working on a project to push this forward). There are ways to circumvent getting the 'official' stamp - various news agencies in the USA have reported on UFOs - such as the Phoenix lights, Mexican Air Force UFOs, and the O'Hare UFO have garnered huge media attention (internationally).

Well, I agree about generating massive public interest, but I think that for the time being, we need to shift the focus away from UFOs/ETs, and onto the issue of the suppression of technology. The over-unity energy technologies like zero-point energy and cold fusion really are the "holy grail" that can finally take down the shadow government and usher in this whole new age of peace and prosperity, a legitimate Space Age.

There are already public organizations working to this end, like SEAS and the New Energy Movement, so now it's just a matter of generating as much public support for them as we possibly can - and not just support but FUNDING. As I've said in other threads, I bet that if SEAS had had access to say a billion dollars, or even a few million, they could have produced working prototypes by now and they could get these technologies into mass production....

Originally posted by Thodeph

Originally posted by millerman
As for the claim that black ops people gave him cancer.... the actual claim is that himself, his assistant Shari Adamiak, a US congressman they were working closely with at the time, AND his pet dog, ALL got the exact same kind of cancer AT THE SAME TIME. Too big of a coincidence, to be a coincidence. The claim is that a specific type of directed energy weapon which can affect people at the cellular level was used to do this....

No wonder representatives aren't too eager in exposing this. That congressman should be Steve Schiff. There's a real epidemic of cancers among ufo whistleblowers.
www.ufoarea.com...


[edit on 18-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Nice find Thodeph!
Out of curiosity, where they all hit by the same type of cancer?
Steven, Shari, and the dog all got it on the same side.

Originally posted by millerman

Originally posted by kroms33

Amen Brother!

There are TONS of FREE media resources to leak the information out to the public...

Sure, it's all over the Internet already, and alternative radio and news publications.....

But there's always going to be that segment of people who won't believe anything until it has that "official" stamp of government approval on it, like showing it on CNN or NBC or whatever.....

Well I'm talking about the post-DP stuff. He is always claiming he has more footage with him & others 'communicating' with ET's in the desert etc. Well, let's see it already. I have a funny feeling it's gonna be DIY, can't wait around on this guy and his posse.

Sure, it's all over the Internet already, and alternative radio and news publications.....

But there's always going to be that segment of people who won't believe anything until it has that "official" stamp of government approval on it, like showing it on CNN or NBC or whatever.....

Well I'm talking about the post-DP stuff. He is always claiming he has more footage with him & others 'communicating' with ET's in the desert etc. Well, let's see it already. I have a funny feeling it's gonna be DIY, can't wait around on this guy and his posse.

Well you're never going to see it on a major news network.... and one of the reasons is, suppose a craft touches down and some ETs come out - and they look EXACTLY like us but with say bigger ears, like Spock.... can you imagine the reaction from the public??

But yeah, maybe if we pester CSETI enough they'll put something up on YouTube or Google Video..... are you on that tock?

Originally posted by tock

Originally posted by Thodeph

Originally posted by millerman
As for the claim that black ops people gave him cancer.... the actual claim is that himself, his assistant Shari Adamiak, a US congressman they were working closely with at the time, AND his pet dog, ALL got the exact same kind of cancer AT THE SAME TIME. Too big of a coincidence, to be a coincidence. The claim is that a specific type of directed energy weapon which can affect people at the cellular level was used to do this....

No wonder representatives aren't too eager in exposing this. That congressman should be Steve Schiff. There's a real epidemic of cancers among ufo whistleblowers.
www.ufoarea.com...


[edit on 18-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Nice find Thodeph!
Out of curiosity, where they all hit by the same type of cancer?
Steven, Shari, and the dog all got it on the same side.

It was a rare type of skin cancer, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by millerman

Well you're never going to see it on a major news network.... and one of the reasons is, suppose a craft touches down and some ETs come out - and they look EXACTLY like us but with say bigger ears, like Spock.... can you imagine the reaction from the public??

My thing is: when the O'Hare UFO happened in Chicago (and I live in Chicago), it was all over the news - damned near the head story. Just 2 weeks ago a couple networks did a story about the UFO's seen around Chicago - and I actually e-mailed a news anchor and got a response. Also - you have to remember that the Phoenix lights and the Mexican Air Force UFOs where international news - and coverage ranged from Cable TV networks right down to standard broadcast TV news.... so for you to say they would never air something like that... I don't think you have been watching the news. They are commenting more and more on UFOs not as fiction - but reality. Heck - they even put that Prophet Yahweh guy on - and Greer isn't as half as crazed as that guy.

I think I can firmly say that we, as a people are getting tired of excuse after excuse when it comes to people making claims upon claims that they have footage and are in contact with aliens.
"Put up or shut up," is what many of us are thinking and saying.
Or is it his next big venture to make $$$ off of the UFO subject?
I don't want to sound disrespectful - or even try to bate an argument - but the points I bring up are valid are they not?