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Originally posted by Spawwwn
because i support rap music and the message they send?
I said 50 was garbage, I just didn't feel like writing an essay on the topic.
When you want a real debate on race, minus the name-calling and games, let me know. I'll be here.
I would love to debate with ya.
Originally posted by ResinLA
I hope more and more rappers get killed off as time goes by.
I would love to debate with ya.
Originally posted by enjoies05
I second that.
Do rappers rap about solving murders?
Originally posted by MasterJedi
Tupac was a thug and doesn't deserve to be idolized. In fact its truly sad that anyone would aspire to be a former drugdealer, turned rapper.
At age 12, Shakur was enrolled in Harlem's famous "127th Street Ensemble." His first major role with this acting troupe was as Travis in the play A Raisin in the Sun. In 1984, his family relocated to Baltimore. After his sophomore year he transferred from Paul Lawrence Dunbar High School to the Baltimore School for the Arts. At the School for the Arts, he studied acting, poetry, and jazz, and performed in Shakespeare plays and landing the role of the Mouse King in The Nutcracker.
In June 1988...he attended Tamalpais High School and was a member of Ensemble Theater Company (ETC) and where Shakur continued to pursue his career in entertainment.
In 1990, he was hired as a back-up dancer and roadie for up-and-coming rap group Digital Underground.
wiki: Tupac's Early Life
I may be a little racist, but with reason.
violence has become a way of life to many of the black youth today.
"I see death around the corner, gotta stay high while I survive
In the city where the skinny n***as die
If they bury me, bury me as a G n***a, no need to worry
I expect retaliation in a hurry
I see death around the- corner, anyday
Trying to keep it together, no one lives forever anyway
Strugglin and strivin, my destiny's to die
Keep my finger on the trigger, no mercy in my eyes
In a ball of confusion, I think about my daddy
Madder than a moth*****er, they never shoulda had me
I guess I seen too many murders, the doctors can't help me
Got me stressin' with my pistol in my sheets, it ain't healthy
Am I paranoid? - Tell me the truth
I'm out the window with my AK, ready to shoot
Ran out of endo and my mind can't take the stress,
I'm out of breath
Make me wanna kill my damn self,
but I see death around the corner"
What kind of thought-process could possibly be behind a statement like that? You want more violence?
You have too many 'issues,' I think, with black people, and black women. I'm not sure how that debate would go.
Originally posted by Spawwwn
I want you to imagine something. Imagine you woke up tomorrow morning to hear that Mel Gibson had been shot and killed at a nightclub. There would be outrage.
They were young people who were killed before their time, many gunned down in front of large crowds of witnesses.
Law enforcement: Class act you doughnut stuffing, roll-around-in-your-own-slop, mud bathing, corrupt, drug planting, sorry waste of life, fat, useless, ****** beating PIGS.
I propose, that all these murders remain unsolved because the victims were black.
After 10 years nobody knows who shot Tupac or Biggie Smalls.
Great job you worthless mud dwelling pigs.
Like I said, if Mel Gibson was gunned down..the police would be all over it. So what makes Tupac, Jam Master Jay, or any of these other multi-million dollar celebrities different? The simple fact that they are black.
“not care about black people” - Kanye West.
Believe me when I say no famous (or even semi-famous) white entertainer’s murder would go unsolved. Mel Gibson’s murder would not be an open investigation for 10 years.
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
If someone did know who shot Biggie, do you think the odds are more in favor that those who know the truth are black, or white?
Originally posted by HarlemHottie
On Biggie
According to Russell Poole, the former LAPD detective investigating Biggie's death, all roads lead to Suge Knight or, more accurately, a sect of Bloods associated with Knight.
After months of investigating and substantial amounts of evidence, Poole accused an LAPD officer, David Mack, along with his friend Amir Muhammad, of being complicit in the murder. Poole had proof that Mack had ties with the CEO of Death Row Records, Suge Knight....Poole sent this information to the chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, Benard Parks, who ordered Poole to stop all investigation on Mack as Mack had been arrested for bank robbery in December 1997 and was on his way to prison.
So, Suge Knight appears again, this time with a connection to the LAPD, David Mack. Mack, obviously corrupt, also seems to have friends in high places. Look at how the police chief protects him from being implicated in Biggie's murder.
Originally posted by MasterJedi
I only read the first 3 pages of this thread so if someone has covered this already I apologize in advance.
Spawwn, while you have a point about perhaps noone caring to look into their murders, I don't think you are looking at this properly.
If they had a huge crackdown on the drug trafficking and gangbanging and rounded all the people up, then you'd be hollering racism, because they were born into that culture... But its that very lifestyle that led to their murders, so to prevent further murders shouldn't they crack down on gangbangers? Shouldn't everyone stop buying the stuff that promotes violence and drug dealing? Of course not, casue I'm sure the whole war on drugs and such wouldn't actually help huh? Its a tool to further the racist agenda no?
The fact is black culture needs to look to people that break out of the drug dealing and gangbanging as their heroes... Tupac was a thug and doesn't deserve to be idolized. In fact its truly sad that anyone would aspire to be a former drugdealer, turned rapper. For God's sake these are your children... make them look up to Edward Temple of TSU fame...A wonderful man and close friend of my family. Make the rappers look like exactly what they are...a rolemodel of how NOT to be.
I may be a little racist, but with reason. Its a fact that crime is higher in the poor black communities, that drugs are more prevailant and that violence has become a way of life to many of the black youth today. Its up to the black fathers to change the way their children are growing up. Because ultimately that is who every child no matter their color should look up to, their mother and father...Stop blaming and start leading.
Just 2 cents... and I might feel different tomorrow =)