Osama Bin Laden arrested by FBI in Brooklyn?

Crakeur,

I think that if they were going to announce that they caught him in Pakistan close to the elections as a moral boost for the Republicans. All of the news around the time was hinting that he was going to be found in Pakistan. Also, in every speach Bush kept promising that Osama would be captured. I think something went terribly wrong with their plans though. I think he died in custody. Do you remember when the rumor came out that he died of natural causes which was quickly denied by AQ and the Bush Administration. I think this is when it happened. After that Bush stopped announcing that he was going to capture Osama and Osama completely dropped out of the news. I think that the reason AQ hasn't announced it is that news of his capture would hurt their movement. They do not want their hero to be captured or dead. This would be a major defeat for them. They are using the coverup to their advantage. I also think that if it got out that Osama was captured or dead the public would cry out for an immediate end to the war. Perhaps Bush wants to keep the war going on indefinately.

Originally posted by biggib
I myself have had several inneractions with numerous branches of our government. I have never seen them act in the manner you describe. Did you really believe they would tell you what they were going to do?

No, you are right, they normally wouldn't. However, this a very emotional issue, and they are human beings. Also, most of the information I got from them was put in the form of strong hints. The only one that told me they got him did it, I think, because he was angry over the cover-up and even then I told him, "I know you got Osama" (or something like that) and he verified it. He never said the words himself.

If he was arrested --then why make it public --the reason could be that we would want to keep an open dialog with his co-terrorists,so that we could arrest the whole group. It's called the poker FACE-dont reveal your hand until the deal is done.

Originally posted by airtrax007
If he was arrested --then why make it public --the reason could be that we would want to keep an open dialog with his co-terrorists,so that we could arrest the whole group. It's called the poker FACE-dont reveal your hand until the deal is done.

Oh yes, I do think they're still watching and listening in on other terrorists in the US.

²Airtrax, have you taken any other pictures from the surroundings? Were you even curious enough to look through the windows, perchance?

Yes i do have other's and video --but the video has peoples faces on them and i don't think i will post them because of privacy. The ones i posted are good enough i think.

I did try to look into #14's door window --but it had it's windows tinted.(the only one on the block)

Leslie,

What you have just said made no sense. You are trying to say your first contact was Aug-7th, and yet you had made contacts there and used your 'leverage'.

I can't understand why this is allowed to proceed?

The log clearly showed you contacting the FBI on the 12th of Aug, using a phone number that is open to the public, and you had to follow protocal as you told me. Calling them in your area first.

IF you contacted them previous, why the use of a 'generic' common number>?

Your story is not credible at all.

[edit on 26-1-2007 by talisman]

Talisman, i agree with you completely.

Leslie has provided evidence of an Aug 12 fist contact and is trying to disprove her own claim.

She has also stated that she was already assisting the FBI on an unrelated case before her tip regarding the alleged AQ building in Brooklyn.

My question Leslie Powers, is this:

Do you really believe your own Bullsh1t?

Thank you for your opinion, Conspiracy Theorist.

[edit on 26-1-2007 by Akareyon]

Originally posted by Akareyon
Thank you for your opinion, Conspiracy Theorist.

Ahh sarcasm.... one of my favorites.

Your response leads me to ask what your interest is in all of this. Talisman has clearly shown the holes that exist in Leslie Powers' story yet you repeatedly back him/her up, with more wild claims about forwarded emails and other such rubbish.

If you have proof, and by proof i mean something tangible, then please go ahead and post it. Otherwise this whole thread is heading in the same direction as Serpo and John Titor.

Honestly I have no idea if anyone has brought this up...If they had found Osama, Usama Whatever....wouldn't Bush use this to his advantage as further cause in Iraq? "We've found the leader and now we can take out his consituents?" Perhaps if he is found holding him doesn't seem to be the correct idea. Doing this does not make sense because the chase for Bin Laden has gone cold this is all about the Middle Eastern Countries and the struggle within that. These are just my opinions...

Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
Ahh sarcasm.... one of my favorites.

How dare you presuppose sarcasm? [sarcasm]I have tags for that.[/sarcasm]

Your response leads me to ask what your interest is in all of this.

I told Talisman what my interest is, for you to read openly.

Talisman has clearly shown the holes that exist in Leslie Powers' story yet you repeatedly back him/her up, with more wild claims about forwarded emails and other such rubbish.

Are there holes? Are there flaws? Are there discrepancies? Do we have to assume the impossible? Do we have to bend the rules of logic? I think no. You think yes. But do I label your conduct of debate "wild" or "rubbish"? Please, this topic is very emotional and not meant to provoce misunderstandings. Next you'd make fun about my bad english, and I could get angry. That wouldn't be fair. Let's settle this peacefully and with the help of all good spirits of our world. Please correct me where I fail to apply these same rules to my own arguments.

If you have proof, and by proof i mean something tangible, then please go ahead and post it. Otherwise this whole thread is heading in the same direction as Serpo and John Titor.

...and demolitioned skyscrapers and Aliens and the Illuminati and the NWO and NAFTA and Shangri La and John Lear and Big Foot and hollow earth and Jesus Christ, god almighty.

I believe in my responsibility to accept Leslie's wish for privacy, as I would respect yours under the same conditions. It's Leslies decision, plain and simple. As I said, I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it. I'm asking the MODs to consider the files Leslie sent them and maybe comment on it. If they think it'd be better for her not to publish the scans, or if those who believe her story - her family for example (allegedly) - have missed something important. Damn, if this were a court, any judge would decide that so much evidence can't be constructed. We're not talking about some photoshop clicks, we're talking about emails, phone logs, testimonies, ATS boots on the ground (thanks to our 007: airtrax), silent MSM, and a very real person that doesn't sound out of her mind at all, and we even have a bandwagon jumper (or was he a real witness? ) who claims he knows his cousin and didn't respond to neither my nor Leslie's u2us ever since. Myspace is saying they can't disclose ANY info about the alleged Osama profile without a law consultant or attorney. But I'm not asking the mods to hold court on this case, but give their opinion about what can be done IF this were true.

I believe the real conspiracy is that the truth may never come out - because there are so many truths. But I believe in the western system of democracy, freedom and righteousness and its capability to find a civilised and legal way to understand what really happened with that guy who is accused of orchestrating that mean attack that came over our millenia-old civilisation and great culture of free thought on a clear, blue September morning 6 summers ago.

[edit on 26-1-2007 by Akareyon]

Akareyon

I realize your trying to be fair, and in the spirit of these boards which is about things that people generally would think is 'out there', it is understandable why you try and be like this.

However, in this case it has become obvious what has happened.

Let me give you an example:

Leslie, is trying to say that there was contact on Aug-7th. That doesn't make sense, because the question then becomes why didn't she contact the FBI on the 12th through another number, not a main number?

She says, she called them to tell them she was going to email them, why didn't she just email them to start with!

You would expect her to have a more direct number and email by the 12th, or call one of her supposed contacts, if she was in constant contact with the FBI. Now on the 12th, she is said to inform the FBI about where Bin Laden might be.

Alright, think about this. How can the FBI mobilize that fast, and keep this a total secret all in four days, while at the same time have a total successful operation?

There's no way! They would have to stake-out the place, watch the movements, obtain warrants, if not warrants, talk to the local Police Force, tell them to avoid the area, get the proper agents in.

We now know there is a POLICE STATION right near-by, coupled with her time frame, the story has become ludicrous.

They would have to make sure, the general public weren't there etc.

Her story was on a thin thread before, but after you posted those items, its over. There just is no way to make that time frame work.

Go back to her Blog, read what she said and then compare it to the Time Frame, its bloody impossible!

Her own words are now working against here. "BY YOUR WORDS YOU WILL BE CONDEMED", holds true.

She has also contradicted herself, talking about some protocal, calling in her area, but when you compare it to the Blog it seems like she contacted the NEW YORK FBI right away, but they weren't even contacted on the morning of AUG-12!

So when exactly was the New York FBI contacted>?

After the 12th? The time frame keeps collapsing.


So say for the sake of argument she contacted the FBI on Aug-7th, well it proves there was no real good contact there, because days later on the 12th she is back to calling the main number!

#1.So we have her calling a common number on Aug-12.
This proves she didn't have great contacts at the FBI previous.

#2. The FBI NEW YORK, is the proper place to call. This isn't seen on the morning of the 12th.

#3. She said, she had to follow their protocal and call in her area first. So why is she stuck in her area between the 7th and the 12th?

#4. How is the FBI expected to act in just 4 days or less? When I say act, she is trying to make people believe that they did this with the intention of keepin secret. There would have to be a decision on this, who made it? Did it just happen on the spot? What force was used?

I mean, the story has been had and in reality it is thanks to you and I am happy you did what you did. Anyone here who goes to the blog, read back on what I wrote, check her dates will quickly see its over.

If you read what I wrote, check her blog, check the time-frame, its obvious she is lying.






[edit on 27-1-2007 by talisman]

I know extraterrestrials CANNOT exist because they'd have to be faster than light, and that is impossible. They'd have to break the cosmic laws of our universe. Does that I mean I can't believe eyewitnesses? No.

But you really got me thinking, Talisman. I have a lot of work to do this weekend, but I'll be back monday or so. I'll try to put Leslie's August in a chronological order based on the logs first, then puzzle in pieces of her blog and then add her claims from 20 pages in this thread... and see what happens.

That's what I usually do when I write fiction. No kidding. I have timelines for every plot I wrote to avoid silly "goofs". Like those that happened to J.K. Rowling when she wrote Harry Potter. With all these clues she gave about weekends, christmas, full moon, two days later and so on, her hero doesn't fit into the real world of the 1990's. Let's try it on this one, I've maybe just been too lazy and gullible until now :-)

Cya l8r

Aka

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Akareyon]

According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, a faster-than-light signal would violate the "causality principle," which states that "causes" always precede "effects."


in one experiment, led by Anedio Ranfagni, of the Italian National Research Council, microwaves were sent through a narrow, ring-shaped opening onto a large mirror, sent the waves back to and behind the source. The arrival times of these pulses showed that they travelled at speeds 5% above c.

In the other experiment, a pulse of light that enters a transparent chamber filled with caesium gas reaches speeds 300 times the normal speed of light.

My point with these examples is that there is a constant change in the world today,be it science ,math ,trends,even the way we think. So even with the lack of evidence in this case there still seems to be be a glistening sparkle of believeability in this case.

To just stamp this case with the HOAX stamper would be ignorant on our part , step back,regroup,send out our minion's to find the truth.

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[edit on 27/1/2007 by Mirthful Me]

Leslie, I think the testimony of the other FM whose cousin 'the general' called him to let him know Osama had been captured needs to be discounted.

That particular forum member is only 13 years old! And are we to believe a General with that kind of security clearance is going to call this news into his 13 year old cousin?

Originally posted by timoothy
My point with these examples is that there is a constant change in the world today,be it science ,math ,trends,even the way we think. So even with the lack of evidence in this case there still seems to be be a glistening sparkle of believeability in this case.

To just stamp this case with the HOAX stamper would be ignorant on our part , step back,regroup,send out our minion's to find the truth.

Amen to that.

Originally posted by Akareyon

But you really got me thinking, Talisman. I have a lot of work to do this weekend, but I'll be back monday or so. I'll try to put Leslie's August in a chronological order based on the logs first, then puzzle in pieces of her blog and then add her claims from 20 pages in this thread... and see what happens.

So your finally going to do what some of us have been doing all along.


It seems to me that Akareyon is now trying to distance himself from Leslie Powers' claims.

Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist
It seems to me that Akareyon is now trying to distance himself from Leslie Powers' claims.

Absolutely...







...NOT :-)

I did exactly what I never wanted to: I typed off all the logs available to date and created an in-line comparison with what she said on MySpace, ATS and in private messages to me. I sent it to her to check that I don't disclose stuff nobody needs to know.

I gotta hurry, I'm off to work. In the meantime, I want you all to meditate on Leslie's rainbow.