UFO Shown On FOX News!

I can’t seem to remember if this vid has been here on ATS before. If it has, then mods please shove this down the funnel into the trash bin!

This UFO vid is from Mexico aired by Fox News. Gives the impression that it’s some sort of reflection from within the cockpit. But if it’s genuine, then we’ve finally got our elusive UFO!! Cheers!

What do the ‘non-believers’ have to say to this?

Fox News Video Here..

Old news, was put down to flares

Awesome, Im surprised its being shown on FOX. Glad to hear these legit cases are being shown.

O yeah, they are just flares not.

[edit on 19-12-2006 by Unplugged]

Originally posted by mazzroth
Old news, was put down to flares

Self propelled flares???

Lol! I've seen plenty flares in my time. But these? Aw man. Get real. Flares don't behave that way!!

Isnt it those that are supposed to be reflections in the water from burning oil rigs?

Originally posted by mikesingh

Self propelled flares???

Lol! I've seen plenty flares in my time. But these? Aw man. Get real. Flares don't behave that way!!

They're not moving at all. Investigators found that these 'flares' were the natural gas burners on offshore oil rigs in the gulf of Mexico. The plane doing the filming is the only thing that's moving.

Burning flames on oil rigs? What a bunch of bull#. Anybody who believes THAT excuse needs their head examined. Fire doesn't burn in the shape of a ball. Man, I swear some of you people will believe ANY excuse to dismiss a UFO.

Just accept the fact that they're here, they're real, and they're NOT gonna go away. And if you ask me what PROOF I have that they're here, you're just proving how ignorant you are. You see the proof here everyday, you just dismiss it and believe it to be something else because your little closed minds can't accept the fact that something CAN exist which does not abide by our knowledge of physics.

You know, we are NOT the all knowing species. You guys think that because we have scientists that say something CAN'T be, or that it's IMPOSSIBLE, then it's written in stone and we must live our lives according to THEIR knowledge. Well I got news for ya. They don't know EVERYTHING. But they sure can make up an excuse for everything!

I've seen enough film to believe that UFOs are real. Some people will say, well gee, these films can be made on computers, and, hehuh, "picking nose", I think they're fake.

Someone said earlier in the post how does fire burn in a ball. At first I figured it only appeared as a ball because of all the heat coming off a small flame, but then I began to think about it, and I have concluded this.

Last time I looked at anything in thermovision. DWP has em on their vans. will let you look sometimes. Heat travels. Especially from flames or fire. Put your hand a few feet above your stove top burner while it's on and now imagine what that heat plume would look like on thermo. Theres no denying you can feel the heat from the stove clearly and distinctly

There would be large plumes of heat signatures coming off the rigs traveling several hundred feet into the air. Most likely in a cone like manner traveling upward and with the prevailing wind. but these seem contained.

So the ocean air was such a good insulator it absorbed all the heat without it "spilling" into the other air masses away from the rig?

Maybe the flames are really small and amplified by the low light film, I don't know.
One thing though. THey do look stationary and in two similar formations. Which could point to the light coming from two identicle types of rigs?

To me the case could still be open for speculation.

Originally posted by MrChipps
Burning flames on oil rigs? What a bunch of bull#. Anybody who believes THAT excuse needs their head examined. Fire doesn't burn in the shape of a ball. Man, I swear some of you people will believe ANY excuse to dismiss a UFO.

Just accept the fact that they're here, they're real, and they're NOT gonna go away. And if you ask me what PROOF I have that they're here, you're just proving how ignorant you are. You see the proof here everyday, you just dismiss it and believe it to be something else because your little closed minds can't accept the fact that something CAN exist which does not abide by our knowledge of physics.

You know, we are NOT the all knowing species. You guys think that because we have scientists that say something CAN'T be, or that it's IMPOSSIBLE, then it's written in stone and we must live our lives according to THEIR knowledge. Well I got news for ya. They don't know EVERYTHING. But they sure can make up an excuse for everything!

Nicely put MrChipps..i couldnt agree with you more.

Scientist..no howabout lyingtist

they really do think they know it all...but this universe is so big how could they know half of what they do.

[edit on 19-12-2006 by TheSonOfMan]

I remember when this video hit the media. I'll admit, I was intriged at the time. Now, I've not followed the results of this video and if it's been soundly debunked or if it remains truly unknown. I will say (and please no one curse me for this) that although the video was released by the Mexican military, we're talking about a government as a whole that has a real problem with corruption. Would it be beyond a couple of souls looking for some publicity to fake a video or misrepresent the lights as UFOs?

That being said, does anyone else notice anything familiar about those lights?

Is it just me or do they look like car headlights reflected on transparent glass?

I mean, while the lights "move," they stay fixed in position the entire time. Kinda like a car speeding by.....

I don't think this video is worth a whole lot to the UFO community. What We need is clear, high-res footage of a UFO hovering in the middle of times square. Not this blurry stuff.

Simply put, they're hollograpahic projections of weather balloons being illuminated by the planet Venus and swamp gases being released into the atmosphere.

Seriously though, there's no way these are flares. They could not travel in such uniform ways. If anyone will notice, look at the film at the "00:42" mark, and you will see a small light flash above the other lights. I think there were more UFOs than the video could show us. Maybe each "light" was separate smaller crafts.

Originally posted by MrChipps
Burning flames on oil rigs? What a bunch of censored. Anybody who believes THAT excuse needs their head examined. Fire doesn't burn in the shape of a ball. Man, I swear some of you people will believe ANY excuse to dismiss a UFO.

I don't know why I'm bothering but here you go.

www.skeptic.com...

Using the flare coordinates, a 3D model of the camera field of view and flares was created and a very good match with the UFO images was demonstrated.

A Landstat image of the three oil platforms in the Campeche area off the coast of Mexico.



Figure 2. A Landstat image of the three oil platforms in the Campeche area off the coast of Mexico (Akal-C with 4 flares, Akal-J with 4 flares and Nohoch-A with 2 flares). The white lines indicate the narrow camera field during the video segment.

The best match of existing flares to UFO images occurred with the most complicated light grouping referred to as the “ten UFO” segment. These lights match the flares on three oil platforms (Akal-C with 4 flares, Akal-J with 4 flares and Nohoch-A with 2 flares). Figure 2 is a Landsat image of three of the platforms which were used in the analysis. The white lines were added to the image to show how narrow the camera field of view was during the time the UFO video was shot.

(Data used to generate the figure is available from U.S. Geological Survey, EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD. Source for this dataset was the Global Land Cover Facility, glcf.umiacs.umd.edu....)

The 3D model required an assumed altitude for each flare (which is very important for the very narrow fields of view that they were videoed in). Both sea level and 100 foot flares were examined and were used to produce diagrams (A) and (B) in Figure 3. Diagram (C) shows the resulting best fits of high and low flares to the UFO images. The video frame for the time (D) is printed below the flare diagrams for comparison.
A diagram of Flare Patterns from different angles.



Figure 3. from top to bottom: (A) Flares as they would appear at sea level. (B) Additional flares as they would appear if located on 100 foot towers. (C) Choosing the best match from the above two options (D) A frame from the video image taken at 17:06:53 for comparison.

yeah this appears to be an old topic. i think weird stuff goes down there though.

The excuse of the lights being flares from an oil rig is ridiculous, look at the movement of the lights throughout the video. Then take a look back and see that they're fairly above the clouds.

MrChipps,

I totally agree with you about the non believers.

There are some people that if a UFO with aliens landed in their front yard would say, "this is an hullucination, I'm not really seeing this" and go about their lives with blinders on.

Someday, and I believe it will be soon, there's going to be alot of very surprised people when THEY make themselves known.

Nevermind the UFOs!!
Mexico actually has a military????
With PLANES??
WTF??

Real or not?...Seriously, I have no idea.
And I'm not going to take either side.
My question is this,
Why was that expert's only other explaination that they might be holographic images?

Have holographic imaging technology really gone that far without the gen pop really knowing about it?

Is it me, or does that not make sense?
Why would he think that they are holographs?

Originally posted by Masisoar
The excuse of the lights being flares from an oil rig is ridiculous, look at the movement of the lights throughout the video. Then take a look back and see that they're fairly above the clouds.

Movement of the lights? Its filmed from a plane. How can you tell they are moving? All it shows is clouds between the "UFOs" and the plane. There is no clear indication they are moving at all.

Something interesting to note is the numbers on the left and bottom. If the indicate angles, the camera is looking at an object far away (no visible movement in the angle) and slightly below it. If it really was UFOs, could the plane keep up with them? The angle indicator should move to follow the presumable much faster UFO.

[edit on 19-12-2006 by merka]