Revealed for the First Time Color Images of the Moon from Clementine Satellite

ArMap,

No, gray on the negative doesn't always mean manipulation or masking. The only way you can really tell is if the shapes in the negative layer don't match the shapes in the final product.

Originally posted by looofo
This thread is about color images of clementine and mostly the aristarchus crater.

No actually its not... its about the games THEY play...

I found another picture if aristarchus crater, and... it is still a crater.

Its still an image from NASA... and if one of the "questions" we have is concerning the reliability of NASA images....
:@@"
And its still black and white images and it does show anomalies, like the one from King crater you posted... for that one. I guess they missed some

The blue glow on the second picture on the front page of the thread is not digitally enhanced. I have already posted part of the mission log where the astronauts state their confusion over the glow.. And most important...it changes in intensity!

1955 Observations on the luminosity of Aristarchus
Sep. 28 0.0 times against normal lunar background
Oct 4 2.2 times
Oct 28 13.0 -19.0 times
Nov 4 3.3-4.2

This is part of a current presentation and the data will be presented later.
The report further indicate ultraviolet and blue glow

At two o clock in this picture there is a ridge that looks interesting. But as on most of the pictures we see, the resolution is too bad.

Interesting? An understatement... and res is not so bad that I can't see THIS



I see symmetrical rows of spheres in several of the moon images we are currently studying

Have a look at this.. the following images are also from a satellite that has the same resolution as Clementine.. these images are on Earth

Rows of Spheres...



Road through vegetation



Here are two more these are clips from AS8-12-2209



Nice arc pattern here.. on the bigger image a fine line connects them. I will try to clip that to show it



[edit on 23-12-2006 by zorgon]

update on the aristarchus Sphinxes. You can see the body of the lioness now:

Originally posted by undo
No, gray on the negative doesn't always mean manipulation or masking. The only way you can really tell is if the shapes in the negative layer don't match the shapes in the final product.

OK, I think I understand what you mean.

I am not totaly convinced, but I will consider this as a possible way of detecting manipulation.

Thanks.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Yandros
yandros.net...

Did anyone bother looking at this? Or are we all over Copernicus crater?

Yes Yandros I did... just haven't had a chance to respond. Very good work... Can you tell me which way is North in your clip?

No we are not over Copernicus yet... Copernicus one of the main keys to this puzzle. So is Aristarchus and Farside Base 2209

But too much info at one time gets lost in the threads... its almost to much for me to process into a neat package, how can one expect the casual viewer to follow?

One thing that jumped out at me right away was the "puffs" that change drastically. Haven't had time to study it in detail, but 4 puffs and the thing in the middle scream out...

Now why didn't we think of that? LOL

( Have a look at this one too: yandros.net... )

Up is north. I have traced up the modified middle strip (northward). There is some evidence of airbrushing what look to be roads. But they are very hard to make out because you can only see them where they have been cut into the rock. I checked the shaded relief, there was no ridge where I found them.

I might post them later when I've had a bit more of an explore.

The photographs are a little tricky. Some of the stitches look very strange because the photos were taken at dawn and dusk respectively. Basically the angle of light changes direction across the stitch line (this is up north of Copernicus.)

To those people looking for domes. Check the angle of the light by looking at the craters around the area. If you imagine a line from the darkest part of the crater to the lightest then this is the angle of the light. In other words the dark side of the crater is nearer to the sun than the light side. Domes are the opposite. With domes the light side of the dome will be nearer to the sun than the dark side.

If you see any craters which go against the angle of the light then point them out, because we want to know all about domes!

ArMap,

the masking layer is red when building layers in color, but you can't tell because it's only viewable in the greyscale + negative Spilt of the HSL unless you have access to all the layers of a photograph. Typically, when creating a layer pallete, the masking level is locked so you can't see what was actually masked. Sometimes though, people forget or the layers were created before the editing software was as advanced as it is today.

Originally posted by Yandros There is some evidence of airbrushing what look to be roads.

Roads? Did you say roads?

Best to look where they lead. No one has done a roadmap of the Moon, wouldn't that be fun?

Originally posted by Matyas

Originally posted by Yandros There is some evidence of airbrushing what look to be roads.

Roads? Did you say roads?

Best to look where they lead. No one has done a roadmap of the Moon, wouldn't that be fun?

I have determined that they are not straight enough to be roads, or the remains of roads. Therefore they must be lava channels or something.

I have been doing experiments with goggle earth, and I have found it is *barely* possible to see long straight roads at 0.1km per pixel. Probably easier on the moon because there is very little variation in the average background (as compared with earth).

Basically the way this works is the road, or the shadow of the stone its cut into, is averaged into the pixel. Each pixel at the highest resolution on the colour moon images covers/represents 100 meters on the surface of the moon. That pixel will be slightly darker because of the presence of the road in the 100 meters – in other words the road does NOT need to be 100 meters wide to see it at 0.1 km/pixel. But it will still be exceptionally hard to make out.

Really what we need to be looking for is really faint *straight* lines, these are the most likely to be roads. It makes very little sense to have a bendy road on the moon, especially if you are running a mining operation (i.e. you have the equipment to cut through the rock in the way of your road.)

www.yandros.net...

Originally posted by Yandros I have determined that they are not straight enough to be roads, or the remains of roads. Therefore they must be lava channels or something.

Hevelius and Rimae Hevelius have some curious "lines" that could be fractures or maybe lava tubes, but two cut through the rim and one appears to go *under* the rim! I have been looking at it for weeks trying to figger out what they could be...

Originally posted by Yandros There is some evidence of airbrushing what look to be roads.

Roads? Did you say roads?

Best to look where they lead. No one has done a roadmap of the Moon, wouldn't that be fun?

I have determined that they are not straight enough to be roads, or the remains of roads. Therefore they must be lava channels or something.

I have been doing experiments with goggle earth, and I have found it is *barely* possible to see long straight roads at 0.1km per pixel. Probably easier on the moon because there is very little variation in the average background (as compared with earth).

Basically the way this works is the road, or the shadow of the stone its cut into, is averaged into the pixel. Each pixel at the highest resolution on the colour moon images covers/represents 100 meters on the surface of the moon. That pixel will be slightly darker because of the presence of the road in the 100 meters – in other words the road does NOT need to be 100 meters wide to see it at 0.1 km/pixel. But it will still be exceptionally hard to make out.

Really what we need to be looking for is really faint *straight* lines, these are the most likely to be roads. It makes very little sense to have a bendy road on the moon, especially if you are running a mining operation (i.e. you have the equipment to cut through the rock in the way of your road.)

www.yandros.net...

Yandros, thanks for sharing this pic, as you know it is loaded with anomolies. This is what I see, you are right, both are domes. The top dome is a female face and the bottom dome a humanoid male looking face and both faces are super imposed on the perimeter of domes. Like our sports stadiums on Earth the roof is fan like and can open or close. The road looking line I believe is a tram just connect the dots that are connecting or near the tram line. To the left @ the end of the line this looks to be a terminal. The track or tube is elevated way above the surface. @ the bottom of pic slightly left of center a huge vertical white statue. Using the statue as base looking N.W. approx 70 degrees up 1" on the screen you will see a Mamoth beautiful humanoid female face with a male humanoid for the neck like a totum. Slightly to the left a V shaped female face with a Russian type hat. You must look at this pic inversely like you were viewing a hologram. It will take you a while to see these anomolies but when you see them you will never view the Earth's Moon the same again. Rik Riley

[edit on 24-12-2006 by rikriley]
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[edit on 24/12/06 by masqua]

For those of us who celebrate Christmas tonight is a "special night" usually shared with only our closest and dearest friends and our families.

I would like to take this opportunity to let each and every one of our Members who frequently contribute outstanding content to the ATS Aliens/UFO Forum how much we appreciate those contributions.

I would also like to acknowledge one person in particular, whether you agree with what he thinks or not you have to admit the man is a dedicated workhorse!

His contributions have been tremendous and his integrity is beyond reproach IMHO.

Of whom do I write?

Why ZORGON of course!

In appreciation for Zorgon's continuous efforts, which reflect the ATS motto of "Deny Ignorance" by virtue of exploring every possible detail, I am glad to announce that Zorgon has been awarded 100,000 ATS POINTS, and we have asked him to lead the effort to put together the definitive ATS Compendium of Moon Picture Anomalies for possible publication on the permanent "Main Site Content Page".

THANKS for the GREAT WORK ZORGON!

Springer...

Zorgon! Congrats! It's great to know that we have stalwarts like you on board, who sacrifice their time in search of truth.

Keep up the scorching pace so that we can achieve the objectives we have set. And needless to say, ATS is the only place where we can do it and make it happen!!

I would also like to complement undo for her untiring effort and contributions.

And Zorg, I wish your web site, 'Land Of Legends' all the very best too!

So bash on, regardless!! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!! Let's go get it!!
Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a happy Nu Year!

Cheers!



[edit on 25-12-2006 by mikesingh]

Congratulations Zorgon.

I may not agree with you sometimes, but I agree that you are doing a great work.

Originally posted by mikesingh
And needless to say, ATS is the only place where we can do it and make it happen!!

Couldn't agree more, congratulations to ATS also for letting this happen.

Zorgon, you have put long hard hours in bringing ATS members up to speed on what is happening on the Moon with mining operations and anomolies. Your dedication again is well appreciated. Congratulations on your 100,000 points well deserved. Rik Riley

No need to say how much I appreciate the work everyone has done on this topic, but Zorgon has opened my eyes to many things. I have looked at more pics of the moon then I can handle, and I now know I need a better graphics card and photo software to make any contributions to this topic. After Christmas sales are almost here!!!

I can tell you all something as a holiday gift that is sorta off topic, but i'm sure some of you will understand. I wanted to post some info on the Clemetine satellite, but I can't check my work email at home and I don't feel like driving in today. Days off are great!!!

There was an Air Force patch that was shown with an "alien grey" on it. I have confirmed that this patch is real, but is no longer worn since it is a "morale" patch. I got this info straight from a member of Space Command. He laughed when I asked about it, don't read into that since it really is nothing, or is it.... Enjoy today and keep searching for the truth, I know I am.

Hay guys, I almost forgot this is my second anniversary of becoming a member with ATS. I really just started to get active on the boards a few months ago. Thank you all for your contributions on these many interesting topics. Merry Christmas and have a fantastic New Year. Rik Riley

nice, props on the color pics. always wanted to get an idea of what it looked like in color.

thanks

Congratulations Zorgon for all your hard work....!


It appears that hard work does pay off in the long run....

Andy Warhol once said everyone would be famous for 15 minutes,

and I like the sound of that concept....



May you have many more "discoveries" to release....



Kudos!

Johnny

This has been a great Christmas, and Zorgon has helped make it so!

Here is a new link that should provide some consolidation for fellow researchers.

Well deserved recognition, Zorgon.

You have done an incredible amount of research and presented it in a very interesting (and often entertaining) manner.

Keep up the great work