Everyone in America needs to watch this

You guys be the judge. Look what google video did for loose change. Imagine if this got in the top 100. Then maybe some real change could take place. Unfortunately, even with almost a million hits, its still behind a billiob videos of girls dancing to randoms songs with 80 views or the most random crap you could possible think of.

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Good video. It's a shame so many people in this country (America) are oblivious to what is going on. The real terrorism exists in the form of Israeli occupation and American support of that occupation.

I can think of quite a few people on this forum who should be made to watch this tied to a chair with their eyelids clamped open, Clockwork Orange-style. This video documents the oppression and violence of the occupation in a way that leaves no room for justification or temporising. Thanks for posting.

Funny how the video doesnt mention how the 1967 war was started by Syria, Jordan and egypt. They launched an attack against israel and got their asses whipped all over the place. Now they want to whine about "illegal occupations" and UN resolutions, which no arab country has ever complied with either.

Tit for tat guys, wouldnt have to worry about that land if you hadnt attacked Israel in 1967. :shk:

It's funny how willing people are to excuse ethnic cleansing, war crimes and the systematic distortion of media reporting with reference to irrelevancies. The point that the film makes, that the US media is completely controlled on this subject, has just been beautifully illustrated.

Of course the US controls the media, it wants support it wants to win.

What you should ask yourselves is why does US want to win, what could happen if it looses etc etc etc......

It could be political, it cold be money, it could be greed, it is for the benifit of the US or the West in general.

There`s always a bigger picture, we arn`t previy to the intelligence behind the reasons.

Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Funny how the video doesnt mention how the 1967 war was started by Syria, Jordan and egypt.

They launched an attack against israel and got their asses whipped all over the place. Now they want to whine about "illegal occupations" and UN resolutions, which no arab country has ever complied with either.

Tit for tat guys, wouldnt have to worry about that land if you hadnt attacked Israel in 1967. :shk:

israel took the right of self-determination (you know, that thing the USA and the west is supposedly big on) away from the palestinian people

the problem all goes back to the end of WW1 and the deconstruction of the Ottoman Empire
if the west hadn't been so exploitive about it, we may not have the situation we have now

it's not like the system worked out with germany...
it just took a lot longer for it to backfire in the middle east
compound that with the USA's interference in middle east politics during the cold war, and we get the current s___hole situation we're in now

I think everyone needs to watch this....

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The new nazis.

Originally posted by rdang
I think everyone needs to watch this....

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The new nazis.

Its a shame you don't realize through your racist haze before your eyes that Palestine is not just Muslims..there are Christians, Druze, Orthodox as well as Muslims in Palestine. Your link has no relevance in this topic.

Jews Against Zionist Occupation of Palestine

The Video Quality is not so hot but it contains many points that need to be addressed by Americans.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN

Originally posted by rdang
I think everyone needs to watch this....

www.youtube.com...


The new nazis.

Its a shame you don't realize through your racist haze before your eyes that Palestine is not just Muslims..there are Christians, Druze, Orthodox as well as Muslims in Palestine. Your link has no relevance in this topic.









Here is how Palestine treats Christians.Tell me again who the racists are.




Link: www.jcpa.org...

WOW,

Talk about SPIN, Propaganda and just plain ol BULL..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do people really believe this garbage? Are there really people out there that gullible?

I mean I know that there is a large segment out there, and on here, that just plain Hate Israel. The Jews have been hated forever, no reason to think anything is going to change. But to swallow that stuff as credible flaunts in the face of intellect and understanding.

Of course if Israel would just stop the car bombings, Homicide attacks, and Missile attacks into civilian areas... Oh Yeah, wait.. that's the Palestinians...

I don't expect everyone to be knowledgeable about that area. Face it, not everyone has been there and it is easy if you hate one segment of people to blame everything on them. Easy and convenient. But it would be nice if those of you that hate Israel just because they are Jews (We know that's true no matter how you deny it) would simply open a history book and really just read. It would make for much more interesting debate.

Silly Stuff

Semper

I actually prefer this video..

Israel's Soldiers

Semper

religion is the root of all evil.
end of discussion.

Originally posted by rdang

Here is how Palestine treats Christians.Tell me again who the racists are.

Obviously you have not seen the funerals of the dead christians killed by IDF. That site is an Israeli site and of course they will paint muslims in a bad light since it allows them to have the support of people like you to keep up with the killing of anyone or anything in Palestine be they UN,Human rights activists,Palestinian-Americans, Muslims, Christians, Coptics, Druze or what have you.IF you take notice on that site there is no critisicm of Israel whatsoever and practically everything is the fault of the terrorist. It must be nice to be able to excuse yourself from all responsibility like that. Keep up the good try though. More and more people are seeing through the deception.

Originally posted by semperfortis
WOW,

Talk about SPIN, Propaganda and just plain ol BULL..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do people really believe this garbage? Are there really people out there that gullible?

I mean I know that there is a large segment out there, and on here, that just plain Hate Israel.

You are just becoming scared that many Americans are realizing how wrong it is to be funding this regime and how the religious wackos in this country have sold the US out to a foreign power, lock, stock and barrel. Without Eretz Israel coming to pass their little fable will never come to pass...oops.

Its really scary that there are so many people running around like you , basically, Jonathan Pollards, Jack Abramoffs who would sell out America and have us living like we were in a prison just as long as Israel was able to continue to collect US welfare, kill off the Palestinians,build more illegal settlements and steal their land. Take notice of how many countries are actually now behind Israel...The US, Israel, Palou,and the Marshall Islands. Getting mighty lonely out there. The deception is exposed.

Yeah Yeah,

That's it..

Semper is scared.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

At least your entertaining Pie

Semper

Ah, sf, come, as ever, to raise the level of the debate. [/sarcasm]

You know, if you actually wanted to contribute to the debate, rather than just post windy posturing like this:

Originally posted by semperfortis
WOW,

Talk about SPIN, Propaganda and just plain ol BULL..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do people really believe this garbage? Are there really people out there that gullible?

I mean I know that there is a large segment out there, and on here, that just plain Hate Israel.

You could post an analysis of the film that actually shows, quite specifically, where it is in error. Point out a fact that is incorrect. Offer an argument against the points made in the film. Otherwise, it's just, to quote an eminent member of the Iraq Study Group, Alan K. Simpson,

Here we can brag and bluster and blather and almost like a comic book character you could invent, Captain Bombast, pull the cape around the shoulders and shout the magic words, "Get him." And rise above it all in a blast of hot air.

Of course if Israel would just stop the car bombings, Homicide attacks, and Missile attacks into civilian areas... Oh Yeah, wait.. that's the Palestinians...

Israeli state terror may not encompass car bombings, but there have been plenty of homicide attacks, and missile attacks (from F-16s) into civilian areas. In fact, they're rather better at dealing death and destruction than the Palestinians, which is hardly surprising given the amount of military aid the US donates. In this article, reprinted from the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, a Jew, Gideon Levy, analyses the numbers:

The numbers don't lie. They never do. In the past month, the number of Palestinians killed by Israeli forces was 45 times greater than the number of Israelis killed by Palestinians. The Palestinian dead included 13 minors. All in one deadly month. The last name on the list is Ayman Abu-Mahdi, a 10-year-old boy who had come home from school and gone out to get a little air with his siblings and friends. He was sitting on a bench in front of his house. The time: 15 hours before the cease-fire in Gaza.

The film makes the point that newspapers in the US are rather more one-sided in their reporting of the illegal occupation than those in Israel. I think that this article bears this out.

I don't expect everyone to be knowledgeable about that area.

Phew. That's a relief.

Face it, not everyone has been there and it is easy if you hate one segment of people to blame everything on them.

If you can find any reference in any of my posts to hatred of Jews, I'd love to see it. Go on, knock yourself out. The fact is, this "hatred" argument is pretty tired. There are good and bad people in every country and ethnic group. All you are doing is actually reiterating the arguments of the film, which is that when uncomfortable facts are presented, supporters of Israel fall back on accusations of anti-Semitism. Congratulations for demonstrating the film's point beautifully for the unbiased readers of this forum.

The film also makes the point that there are some genuine anti-Semites out there, who do indeed blame everything on "the Jews", and accusing people of being anti-semitic when they're simply criticising Israeli policy towards the Palestinians is muddying the waters, and diverting attention from the real Jew-haters. But of course I'm sure that to you I'm just one of...

those of you that hate Israel just because they are Jews (We know that's true no matter how you deny it) would simply open a history book and really just read. It would make for much more interesting debate.

Any particular books in mind? And please, when you talk about "interesting debate", perhaps you should look at what you yourself have posted. It's all very Captain Bombast, long on hot air and short on facts.

Yeah everyone who is right minded can't support Israël policies. The ``hate`` is plenty justified, and it's not against jews, it's against the Israël state, a zionist state, not a jewish state, even if the majority of his citizens are jewish, and i'm not even sure of that.

What the British did with Israël is one of the biggest error in history. Imposing a country on a land that belongs to someone else against their will and funding them to kill their neighboors. What a shame.

As South Africa apartheid was, Israël is. This country would be hated even if it was habited by mormons, christians, extra-terrestrials, it's not a matter of religion it's a matter of territory, massacres, war crimes and violation of many UN laws.

What Israël do is outrageous and they should be dismentled peacefully to give the palestinian, the jews and the christians a country of coalition, and don't say it wouldn't work, Lebanon is working very well.

And if I interjected some intellectual contribution, it would be the first. So I would be making history so to speak on this thread. Yet to actually comment on a film no more truthful than the Grinch Stole Christmas, would in essence lower me to the Jew hating level. That I will never do.

You can call it what you want to. Down in your hearts you know what it is. Hate for the Jews. Historical, Nasty, Destructive Hate. The same the Nazi's had, just packaged differently attempting to be "Politically Correct". Or perhaps simply so lacking in first hand knowledge or historical precedent that you easily fall prey to the "Jump on the Wagon" syndrome the Drive By Media so quickly spouts. Like Lemmings, you follow each other blindly with no independent or individual thoughts or opinions on the matter. Simply "Cow-Towing" to what you hear and what is perceived to be the "Popular" line of thought.

All the rest of the truly free thinking, non prejudiced intellectual community know where you stand, what you feel. So you really are fooling no one. Might as well come clean and free your soul admitting the hate that resides in you for all things Jewish.

Like the Ignorance supposedly denied on this site, I choose to Deny Hate. The Hate you all so freely feel and easily justify.

Semper

Originally posted by rich23
It's funny how willing people are to excuse ethnic cleansing, war crimes and the systematic distortion of media reporting with reference to irrelevancies. The point that the film makes, that the US media is completely controlled on this subject, has just been beautifully illustrated.

They attacked Israel!!!! how is that irrelevant?! you have got some serious bias issues.