Putin does it again!!! (poisoned spy)

hello earth to everyone

the killing was radiation piosoning alpha 239 its dealy when inhayalled into your body but carnt pepatrate through papper

British Airways have grounded 3 aircraft used on the London - Moscow route as two of them have found to of had 'low level' radiation. The news is just coming down the wire from Moscow...

From BA website - www.ba.com

British Airways has been advised that three of its Boeing 767 short haul aircraft have been identified by the UK government as part of the investigation into the death of Alexander Litvinenko.

The airline was contacted last night (Tuesday, November 28) by the government. It has taken the three B767s out of service to enable forensic examination to be carried out.

The initial results of the forensic tests, which was confirmed late this afternoon, has shown very low traces of a radioactive substance onboard two of the three aircraft.

British Airways has been advised that this investigation is confined solely to these three B767 aircraft, which will remain out of service until further notice.

British Airways understands that from advice it has been given that the risk to public health is low.

The airline is in the process of making contact with customers who have travelled on flights operated by these aircraft, which operate within Europe.

A list of flights affected are listed below.

Customers on these flights who wish to receive further advice are advised to telephone NHS Direct on 0845 46 47. This includes UK citizens travelling overseas.

For all non-UK nationals, please contact your local doctor.

Only customers who have travelled on these specific flights are asked to telephone NHS Direct or seek medical advice locally.

British Airways has set up a special helpline for customers

in the UK on 0845 6040171
or + 44191 211 3690 for international calls.

Further information will be released as it becomes available.


More information

The following British Airways’ flights are involved.

London Heathrow to Moscow/Moscow to London Heathrow
October 25, BA875
October 26, BA872 and BA873
October 28, BA872 and BA873
October 31, BA874 and BA875
November 3, BA874 and BA875
November 7, BA872 and BA873
November 8, BA874 and BA875
November 9, BA872 and BA873
November 14, BA872 and BA873
November 15, BA874 and BA875
November 16, BA872 and BA873
November 17, BA874 and BA875
November 18, BA874 and BA875
November 20, BA872 and BA873
November 22, BA872 and BA873
November 25, BA872 and BA873
November 28, BA872 and BA873

London Heathrow to Barcelona/Barcelona to London Heathrow
November 4, BA478 and BA479
November 16, BA478 and BA479
November 17, BA478 and BA479
November 19, BA478 and BA479
November 20, BA478 and BA479
November 21, BA478 and BA479
November 22, BA478 and BA479
November 23, BA478 and BA479
November 24, BA478 and BA479

London Heathrow to Dusseldorf/Dusseldorf to London Heathrow
October 30, BA936 and BA937
November 6, BA936 and BA937
November 18, BA936 and BA937
November 19, BA936 and BA937
November 24, BA936 and BA937
November 25, BA936 and BA937
November 27, BA936 and BA937

London Heathrow to Athens
October 30, BA632
November 6, BA632
November 7, BA634
November 9, BA634
November 10, BA632
November 14, BA634
November 19, BA632
November 20, BA634
November 21, BA632
November 22, BA634
November 24, BA632
November 25, BA632
November 27, BA632
November 28, BA634

Athens to London Heathrow
October 30, BA633
November 6, BA633
November 8, BA631
November 10, BA631
November 10, BA633
November 15, BA631
November 19, BA633
November 21, BA631
November 21, BA633
November 23, BA631
November 24, BA633
November 25, BA633
November 27, BA633

London Heathrow to Larnaca/Larnaca to London Heathrow
October 29, BA662 and BA663
November 11, BA662 and BA663
November 12, BA662 and BA663
November 13, BA662 and BA663
November 18, BA662 and BA663
November 26, BA662 and BA663

London Heathrow to Stockholm/Stockholm to London Heathrow
November 19, BA780 and BA781
November 22, BA780 and BA781
November 23, BA780 and BA781
November 24, BA780 and BA781

London Heathrow to Vienna/Vienna to London Heathrow
November 28, BA846 and BA847

London Heathrow to Frankfurt
October 26, BA916

Frankfurt to London Heathrow
October 27, BA901

London Heathrow to Istanbul/Istanbul to London Heathrow
October 27, BA676 and BA677

London Heathrow to Madrid/Madrid to London Heathrow
November 26, BA460 and BA4

Sorry for the long post, but this information is important enough to replicate in full, as it could effect people who use this board directly.

breaking news on sky - CEO of british airways states that---


over 240 flights involved.

33 000 passengers effected.

3000 ba staff effected.

full details to be released on www.ba.com

Originally posted by ewan
breaking news on sky - CEO of british airways states that---


over 240 flights involved.

33 000 passengers effected.

3000 ba staff effected.

full details to be released on www.ba.com

You might want to clarify whether thats 33000 passengers affected by the flight disruption or by radiation. Might cause a bit of panic if you get my drift.

CX.

sure........radiation PANIC!!!!!

but seriously..........

BA are asking affected passengers to look at the website for further information, they will also be contacting all affected passengers

[edit on 29-11-2006 by ewan]

Litvinenko apparently smuggled radioactive materials when he was in the FSB. The italian sushi-bar man and nuclear materials expert (Scaramella) said Litvinenko have told him about this. Litvinenko said he masterminded the smuggling of radioactive material to Zurich in 2000. In the sushi bar Litvinenko and Scaramella discussed a death threat aimed at both of them.


20 nuclear torpedoes...

Russia's former Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar has been struck by some mystery illness. They say he was poisoned while in Dublin last week.

Perhaps the most unbiased, and accurate, foreign policy and foreign events analysis group lays the blame of this debacle straight on Putin's administration.

While they have no proof, they argue the reasons, based on the facts, why it's most likely Putin (through the FSB) who ordered the hit.

We know only what everyone else knows about this case, and we are working deductively. For all we know, Litvinenko had a very angry former girlfriend who worked in a nuclear lab. But while that's possible, one cannot dismiss the fact that his death -- in so public a manner -- fits in directly with the logic of today's Russia and the interests of Vladimir Putin and his group. It is not that we know or necessarily believe Putin personally ordered a killing, but we do know that, in the vast apparatus of the FSB, giving such an order would not have been contrary to the current inclinations of the leadership.

And whatever the public's impression of the case might be, the KGB/FSB has not suddenly returned to the scene. In fact, it never left. Putin has been getting the system back under control for years. The free-for-all over economic matters has ended, and Putin has been restructuring the Russian economy for several years to increase state control, without totally reversing openness. This process, however, requires the existence of a highly disciplined FSB -- and that is not compatible with someone like a Litvinenko publicly criticizing the Kremlin from London. Litvinenko's death would certainly make that point very clear.

I'm convinced.

So because the FSB is allowed under Russian law to liquidate individuals who pose a credible threat to Russian security, and because the FSB exists to this day- they are guilty? This is at very best circumstantial. Hell- send Putin to the Hague tribunals right away- you seem to have an irrefutable case against him. I don't see how your conclusive evidence could possibly be false.

The more I read about what this dissident spy did and said, the more I actually agree that this guy should have been taken care of. It's not because he criticized Putin, nor is it because he came up with outrageous accusations against Putin's administration. Primarily and above all this guy was a traitor, and he has betrayed and abused his position in the highest security department of FSB. He was entrusted with vital security information, and then he ran off to Britain with it. What did you expect FSB to do- look and nod in approval? If it was FSB that targeted him, I am surprised they didn't kill him earlier. I am sure intelligence agencies in US and Britain don't take very well to agents that betray them. If such dissent by high-ranking intelligence officials is allowed, then the intelligence business turns into a joke.


And by the way- it is very doubtful that Gaidar's sickness has anything to do with this case. Gaidar had bad health long before this, and his sickness is no surprise to those who know him. Plus he is only a two-bit politician and not a dissedent. I could think of 100 people who FSB could target before Gaidar.

you can buy Polonium-210 in internet!!!

A company in the US claims to supply polonium-210 to anyone for just $69 plus postage and packing. A three-pack set of “alpha, beta, gamma” radioactive isotopes also includes polonium-210.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

There is an interesting material about polonium-210
www.unitednuclear.com...

This is so strange 12 locations are contaminated and all those planes contaminated. Was Litvinenko involved in something and when he became ill decided to use Putin as a convenient scapegoat to avoid an investigation into something he himself was doing? Something is fishy.

How long with this stuff take to have such effects?

IS it possible someone put it in his body
'' ie in passed out state they slit some skin slid a minute piece of this material under''

while he was sitting at a restraunt he left contamination where he sat..
the same with aeroplans..
lying in his bed in his apartment....



I doubt the killers were at every site..

I believe he had the material on him,or in him when he left russia...
and its followed him since.

Originally posted by maloy
So because the FSB is allowed under Russian law to liquidate individuals who pose a credible threat to Russian security, and because the FSB exists to this day- they are guilty? This is at very best circumstantial. Hell- send Putin to the Hague tribunals right away- you seem to have an irrefutable case against him. I don't see how your conclusive evidence could possibly be false.

The more I read about what this dissident spy did and said, the more I actually agree that this guy should have been taken care of. It's not because he criticized Putin, nor is it because he came up with outrageous accusations against Putin's administration. Primarily and above all this guy was a traitor, and he has betrayed and abused his position in the highest security department of FSB. He was entrusted with vital security information, and then he ran off to Britain with it. What did you expect FSB to do- look and nod in approval? If it was FSB that targeted him, I am surprised they didn't kill him earlier. I am sure intelligence agencies in US and Britain don't take very well to agents that betray them. If such dissent by high-ranking intelligence officials is allowed, then the intelligence business turns into a joke.


And by the way- it is very doubtful that Gaidar's sickness has anything to do with this case. Gaidar had bad health long before this, and his sickness is no surprise to those who know him. Plus he is only a two-bit politician and not a dissedent. I could think of 100 people who FSB could target before Gaidar.

At what point do you shake off your chronic denial and admit that all the evidence is pointing to a Russian state-sanctioned hit?

Proof? Read this article

The killers must have had access to the laboratories, indicating a level of state involvement, according to intelligence sources. Reports say the source of the polonium 210 has now been traced by British scientists working at the Atomic Weapons Establishment at Aldermaston to a nuclear power plant in Russia.

Mario Scaramella, the Italian academic who was with Litvinienko at the sushi bar, has just been admitted to UCH London after "significant" amounts of Pollonium were found to be present in his body.

This is just coming in, An Adult family member of Litvinienko's family has been exposed to polonium 210


im sure this will be on the news shortly.

Edit to state this has now been confirmed though its only a trace and hopefully the person will be fine,

[edit on 1-12-2006 by asala]

And MSNBC is reporting that a hotel which Scaramella stayed at has been closed and is being tested.

Curiouser and curiouser....

Regards-
Aimless

And MSNBC is reporting that a hotel which Scaramella stayed at has been closed and is being tested.

Yup they think this may be where in contacted it, But that's not confirmed,



Reports are that this latest trace could be his wife or his father, His father had visited him while he was in hospital.