God forgot one minor detail

God created the earth and heavens by dividing the waters. Then he created man and woman and told them that every living creature was for their food and the earth was theirs to subdue.

He forgot to mention that he had created an advanced reptile of some kind that could speak to the humans and trick them quite easily.

The advanced form of reptile was obviously more intelligent or knowledgable than humans and easily manipulated them.

If God knew that there was an advanced life form in the garden of eden also, then why didn't he warn the humans to watch out for it so that they wouldn't be manipulated by it.

Obviously the bible isn't telling the whole story?

Maybe you haven't read it close enough. I'm not being a smart-aleck, but your statement that God gave all the animals over to Adam and Eve for their food is proof that you haven't.

God did not give over the animals for food to humans until Noah. that's when we our life-span dropped to an fraction of what it had been.

Though I cannot argue one way or the other that the word translated "serpent" could or could not be interpreted as an "advanced reptile"...neither can you, so that seems to be a bit of a stretch.

The serpent was Satan, and the serpent wasn't a threat unless Adam and Eve disobeyed God. Even then, they had freedom of choice, even if it were to obey one simple rule. There was no need that they be warned that an Evil One might try and deceive them if they just remembered to not violate that one simple rule.

God gave man the charge over the animal Kingdom....
Man ate plants as all animals did.....

Remember, Adam and Eve ate no meat, fish or dairy products in the Garden of Eden, only vegetarian foods.
only after the fall did God permit this.....

Good book on Genesis ....
www.answersingenesis.org...



[Edited on 11/13/2003 by helen670]

There are a lot of things missing out of the Bible. Its not complete if even real. For instance... Where did all the other people come from? People just appeared out of nowhere. Like Kains wife.


Nightwalker

God told them they can eat from every tree BUT the tree of life. It doesn't matter what was in that tree. God gave them everything, and gave them a commandment. I think if everyone used a little common sense we would know that we WOULDN'T have to be told of every little aspect of what's right and wrong.

No offense Aztec.

Originally posted by Nightwalker
There are a lot of things missing out of the Bible. Its not complete if even real. For instance... Where did all the other people come from? People just appeared out of nowhere. Like Kains wife.


Nightwalker

Where did all the people come from? You see babies are made when 2 people love each other very much. Adam and Eve were the first humans and they "multiplied" So basically everyone is related to each other. But doesnt the Church hate incest? Well according to the Bible you are marrying someone related to you. So I find that kinda interesting.

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by dreamlandmafia]

Originally posted by dreamlandmafia

Originally posted by Nightwalker
There are a lot of things missing out of the Bible. Its not complete if even real. For instance... Where did all the other people come from? People just appeared out of nowhere. Like Kains wife.


Nightwalker

Where did all the people come from? You see babies are made when 2 people love each other very much. Adam and Eve were the first humans and they "multiplied" So basically everyone is related to each other. But doesnt the Church hate incest? Well according to the Bible you are marrying someone related to you. So I find that kinda interesting.

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by dreamlandmafia]

Well Nightwalker. What is sin? is sin incest? I think so, but the begining there was only ONE commandment. They didn't know the dif between right and wrong, there was only ONE wrong and unfortunately they did it (ate from the tree of life). God told them to be "FRUIT FULL" what does that mean to you?


[Edited on 13-11-2003 by glan]

Though I cannot argue one way or the other that the word translated "serpent" could or could not be interpreted as an "advanced reptile"...neither can you, so that seems to be a bit of a stretch.

Apply the rules of logic and meaning and it can easily be interprete that way. All snakes are reptilian. This particular snake was very different. "advanced" is an adjective which describes this certain reptile and seperates it. He is smart!

Besides, the fact that someone did interpret it proves that it can be interpreted that way. And nothing can be determined without a shadow of a doubt. Everything, no matter how proven, "could" be wrong. So anything, including this interpretation, "could" be the inverse of wrong:right.

You also use one of the "fallacies of logic." You prove something is wrong becuase someone that believes it cannot prove it. You call it a stretch.

"You cannot show me life is not on mars
therefore, life is on mars"
-just doesn't work that way.

Thomas Crown. Show me that the devil was the serpent....

What i'd like to know is, why did God even allow Sin into the Garden of Eden to begin with? Obviously the Serpant was a sinful creature so why was he allowed into the Garden?? I thought the Garden of Eden was Pure and that NO SIN WAS ALLOWED THERE?

The serpent didn't eat the fruit off the forbidden tree so therefore he didn't commit a sin.

The serpent is like Charlie Manson. Maybe Manson is a serpent! Ah-ha!

Originally posted by dreamlandmafia


Where did all the people come from? You see babies are made when 2 people love each other very much. Adam and Eve were the first humans and they "multiplied" So basically everyone is related to each other. But doesnt the Church hate incest? Well according to the Bible you are marrying someone related to you. So I find that kinda interesting.

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by dreamlandmafia]

Eh, I don't think it's that big of a deal. In order for man to survive it had to be done. I think that's a little different than having sex with your sister cos you like her, ya know? If the Bible is true and all then yeah, we are all related, but it's waaaaaaaaaaaay down the line most likely

Originally posted by mishapscott
The serpent didn't eat the fruit off the forbidden tree so therefore he didn't commit a sin.

The serpent is like Charlie Manson. Maybe Manson is a serpent! Ah-ha!

But he committed a 'sin' the moment God threw him out of the Heavens for trying to become God's Equal. Therefore, yes he was already 'In Sin'.

[Edited on 14-11-2003 by Sapphire]

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.


And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so.

I'm sorry, my bad. God didn't tell the humans to eat everything. But he told them that they had dominion over all creatures. That was my point actually.

Why wouldn't God warn the newly created humans that there was an advanced reptillian life form that would have dominion over them? Surely this was something that they should have been warned about. It's like letting your kids go out into the world alone, without teaching them about the predators etc.

Originally posted by HistoryNeverGetsOld

Originally posted by dreamlandmafia


Where did all the people come from? You see babies are made when 2 people love each other very much. Adam and Eve were the first humans and they "multiplied" So basically everyone is related to each other. But doesnt the Church hate incest? Well according to the Bible you are marrying someone related to you. So I find that kinda interesting.

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by dreamlandmafia]

Eh, I don't think it's that big of a deal. In order for man to survive it had to be done. I think that's a little different than having sex with your sister cos you like her, ya know? If the Bible is true and all then yeah, we are all related, but it's waaaaaaaaaaaay down the line most likely

Hmmm i guess then No One, Specially the Church has the right to complain about red necks then do they

[Edited on 14-11-2003 by Sapphire]

well, if you believe in the whole bible thing. Abraham's wife, sarah, was both technically considered his wife and his sister. They both had the same father but different mother. They were like step siblings. Still, he was respected in the eyes of god. Further more, his 2 daughters got him drunk and slept with him and he himself slept with one of his servents with his wifes knowledge. As I am sure the bible doesn't tell the whole story, I can only imagine how much farther this went

[Edited on 14-11-2003 by TheManWithThePlan]

Remember the story of the two angels that were there to evaluate the city of Solom. They both were confronted by men in the town who wanted to have sex with them. Lot, said instead of the two angels, they could do what ever they want with his two virgin daughters.

Originally posted by Aztec

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.


And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so.

I'm sorry, my bad. God didn't tell the humans to eat everything. But he told them that they had dominion over all creatures. That was my point actually.

Why wouldn't God warn the newly created humans that there was an advanced reptillian life form that would have dominion over them? Surely this was something that they should have been warned about. It's like letting your kids go out into the world alone, without teaching them about the predators etc.

I agree. It only seems logical to me that God would have done that. Any good parent would. It it were up to me however, the Serpent would have been the first thing i hunted down after being kicked out of Paradise!

[Edited on 14-11-2003 by Sapphire]

Originally posted by Nightwalker
There are a lot of things missing out of the Bible. Its not complete if even real. For instance... Where did all the other people come from? People just appeared out of nowhere. Like Kains wife.


Nightwalker

Actually, if you read:
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

You will see that God created male and female to subdue and tend to the earth and be responsible for the animals all over the earth. The garden in Eden was not created yet.

Then a little further down you will come to the creation of Adam whom He placed in the garden in Eden.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed
Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

The first reference refers to the people who were put on the earth to populate it and tend to it. They were separate from Adam and would have been the people Cain went to live among. This is also where he would have gotten his wife.

Adam was created after this and placed in a garden IN Eden which God had created separately. He was not created with a mate until God realized that he needed a companion. Adam is referred to as "they" prior to the creation of Eve, by the way, which is kind of an interesting side note.

Originally posted by glan
God told them they can eat from every tree BUT the tree of life. It doesn't matter what was in that tree. God gave them everything, and gave them a commandment. I think if everyone used a little common sense we would know that we WOULDN'T have to be told of every little aspect of what's right and wrong.

No offense Aztec.

But if you are a pure creature that had never experienced right or wrong, and did not yet know what it meant to sin or what "death" was, how would you know? Adam and Eve would have been like a baby or a puppy, before "the Fall". They were told "Don't eat anything off of that tree." So they didn't but then comes along a slick salesman with a good line. Since they don't know what a lie is, why wouldn't they believe him? There's no mention about God warning them about the big, bad snake, or how to know what a lie is, so there would be no reason to doubt what they were told. A naive child cannot be blamed for thinking the man in the car really is offering to give him/her candy if they go for a ride, can they?