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Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Originally posted by reaganero
The main difficulties with pre-trib are contained in the Olivet Prophecy of Jesus. In Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, Jesus describes the terrible destruction and loss of life of the tribulation period. The disaster is believed to be so intense that no human (Christian or non-Christian alike) would remain alive, except that God shortens the duration of the disaster for the sake of the believers.
Actually what you are calling a difficulty with the pretrib rapture is actually a proof of such.
Here is what I suggest you do. Print out a copy of Matthew 24 and a copy of Luke 21 and compare them verse by verse or group of verses by group of verses.
When you come to Luke 21: 12 it says "BUT BEFORE ALL THESE" (Before what things?) And what does the comparitive verse in Matthew 24 say.
If you take your time and do verse by verse comparison you will find both the rapture and the second coming and the timing of both.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
How many days do you have left till the sixth seal and Jesus returns? Thirteen? Time will tell. What name are you going to start posting under in the new year........or is it a secret?
Originally posted by reaganero
oh, please. that's like saying nobody will know the exact second but they will know the exact minute or hour. you simplify god's word. cmon. accept the fact that you haven't a clue!
Originally posted by reaganero
what about some comet that is supposed to hit the earth and cause all the famine and death?
Originally posted by reaganero
I think Analnooki's are demons and anybody who believes in them are deceived and try to deceive others into a false god.
this whole planet niburu crap is not heaven it's the comet satan that's gonna come down and cause all the famines. SOM is twisting it around to take away from what the bible has preached.
other than that i like his posts and i agree there's no need to attack. i think we're all just sorta clarifying our ideas.
nobody is right or wrong?? just some ideas seem a bit more logical than others.
Originally posted by harvosky
Hey SOM i'm here to help.....Ok first things first....why is sun matrix and the other guy what's his name.....not to offend you....but....can't we all just have faith on Christ and move on. It's great to post your findings but we must not attach each other. Sun Matrix if you think your right leave it as is and start a thread....that's the beauty about ATS. I think we've seen a few pages of arguing back and forth. This is what I think is going on...
Originally posted by harvosky
Hey SOM i'm here to help
Ok first things first....why is sun matrix and the other guy what's his name.....not to offend you....but....can't we all just have faith on Christ and move on.
It's great to post your findings but we must not attach each other. Sun Matrix if you think your right leave it as is and start a thread....that's the beauty about ATS.
I think we've seen a few pages of arguing back and forth.
This is what I think is going on...
The Seven seals...well i think SOM has proved his point and so far i'm feeling his words of wisdom.
The hurricane victims make sense to me.
As far as the Antichrist is concern I have a feeling it's the current pope. Look at the words he used and didn't even apologize...hmmm makes you wonder why would he use that ...plus Christians come a long way from hating on Muslims since the Crusades..the slaughtering of millions..hint the reason i chose faith over religion...that's my 5cents...
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Wow sunmatrix i sense some anger..maybe you should chill out.
take harvosky's advice and begin your own thread..so then i can accuse you of speaking bull,and claim your in a cult..and do all the same stuff everyone has done to me.And make sure not to mention the name christ because that'll make things 10x worse.
We'll see how good you take all the critisicm.
Peace!!
Originally posted by harvosky
Sun Matrix I believe in some things you say too so i'm not attacking you nor I'm here to prove anybody wrong. We all have different interpretations that keep us in line with God and Christ. So let's all hold hands and give thanks to our lord.
Originally posted by harvosky
seas over Iraq, but the weird thing is that I always look for "Orion's Belt" in the sky....don't know why but it brings peace in my heart and the feeling is just weird.