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Originally posted by Sun Matrix
the lie will be told. SEE, THE ALIENS HAVE COME AND CARRIED THEM AWAY.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
And then you wanna talk about a pre tribulation rapture..FIRST OFF, there is only one place in the bible ive seen the word tribulation mentioned,in the book of revelation after the 6th seal is opened.
the scripture says..Rev 7:14 "And he said, These are they who have come out of the great tribulation,they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb.
THAT SCRIPTURE PROVES YOUR WRONG..CASE CLOSED!
If you can find anywhere else in the bible that has the world tribulation in it and is connected with the rapture,then show me.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Jesus is coming inside the planet X,nobody will see him until they are brought up into the ship.then the planet will leave just as quickly as it came.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
terrorism will take a back seat...for 3.5 years the power of the holy people will be broken...that is how long the anti christ will have his power.
the 3.5 years 2007,2008-2010,2011
Originally posted by reaganero
i have to agree with sun matrix. anti christ is gonna have to cause peace among the mid east first.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
You can't find the rapture associated with the tribulation because those that are raptured are not around for the tribulation.
The verse you are quoting has nothing to do with the rapture. Those in white robes in Rev 7:14 have been killed and not raptured. You might read the 5th seal.
Has Israel been at peace. No......no seals have been opened.
Has the Antichrist come to power. No...no seals have been opened.
Has Russiah and Iran attacked Israel. No..no seals have been opened.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Where is the 7 year peace treaty that the Antichrist confirms. It is this peace treaty that brings peace to the earth and Antichrist declares himself to be the Messiah.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Originally posted by reaganero
i have to agree with sun matrix. anti christ is gonna have to cause peace among the mid east first.
If SOM is correct (and he's not) Christ is going to return in the next 2 and 1/2 weeks or so.
Where is the Antichist and where was the peace?
Originally posted by reaganero
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Originally posted by reaganero
i have to agree with sun matrix. anti christ is gonna have to cause peace among the mid east first.
If SOM is correct (and he's not) Christ is going to return in the next 2 and 1/2 weeks or so.
Where is the Antichist and where was the peace?
you do understand i'm agreeing with YOU right?
yeah, som has his timeline all goofed.
Originally posted by reaganero
The main difficulties with pre-trib are contained in the Olivet Prophecy of Jesus. In Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, Jesus describes the terrible destruction and loss of life of the tribulation period. The disaster is believed to be so intense that no human (Christian or non-Christian alike) would remain alive, except that God shortens the duration of the disaster for the sake of the believers.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
You can't find the rapture associated with the tribulation because those that are raptured are not around for the tribulation.
Obviously you didnt read the scripture then..because it says the ones in white robes..CAME OUT OF the great tribulation..it doesnt say they came after or before..it says DURING the tribulation..namely the 6th seal.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
The verse you are quoting has nothing to do with the rapture. Those in white robes in Rev 7:14 have been killed and not raptured. You might read the 5th seal.
Actually the verse i quoted has everything to do with the rapture..as its written in the bible jesus sends 4 angesl to hold back the 4 winds of the earth..they seal the tribe of israel and then a great multitude is seen in heaven..nowhere does it mention those people dieng..so once again your twisting things around.
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Rev 7:13 What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.