So, "IF" I was abducted, how would I know for sure?

So, to be short, camping alone with my dog about 8 miles into the wilderness, wake up to find the tent engulfed with "the light", you know, liquid light, crazy bright but not blinding, nor does it cast shadows.

Wake up next morning, tent is flat on me. All I remember is "the light" as I've come to call it, and a silver object with a whirring buzzing sound around my face at some point.

I've been reading around ATS for the last few weeks and this seems like a pretty safe place to talk about this, and also find out, well, (insert nervous laugh here) should I be worried or concerned about this? I mean, I'm alive, I'm well, and since the ordeal I don't recall seeing little green men, although, here's the weird part, I have had some pretty freaky dreams about being somewhere with little dudes dressed in what appears to be those dark green medical surgical gowns. I also saw some pretty crazy stuff, like some human experiments, that I'm not going to go into detail here, because quite frankly, I'm wondering if there is anyone else out there that maybe has "been there, done that" and has a similar story. Now that would completely freak me out.

So, any input? It's always kind of been sitting there, in the back of my mind. Should I shut up and forget about it as I'll be better off that way, or visit a hypnotist, and then maybe really wish I would have forgot about it ;-)

For those of you that scoff and laugh at "UFO's and Abductions" well, sorry, not interested in your bs so save your comments for Oprah or your book. There's more to my story, but I'm not sharing except with people that have also "been there, done that"

I'm open to links, stories, whatever. If I've posted in the wrong spot, say so.

Welcome to the forum! You're asking the toughest question first. How do you know if you were abducted? Well you can't know for sure, at least not until we come up with some sort of technology that can tell us if these totally real life "dreams" are manufactured by our own minds or not. Even though we can swear that we were face to face, smelled the smells, touched and felt during these experiences there is always the chance that our own minds are tricking us. Unless we can produce tangible evidence of our visits we can not say it as fact , but must go on what we experienced as an interesting happening. And also, physical effects of these visits do help to substantiate that something happened.

In the meantime, just get your story out there and see if it matches up with any of the others. Someone else may be able to substantiate your visit in some way, maybe add a few pieces to the puzzle of these occurrences. You might consider regression therapy to find what is in your subconscious about this visit, but once again you are left with, did your own mind manufacture it all?

Please keep posting all of your experiences, as I and others are very interested in hearing your recall to hopefully fit some pieces together.

Highest regards,

STM



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Find a licensed, sympathetic, experienced, pschoanalyst to do a regression hypnosis session with you to see if anything more substantial 'comes to light' while you're 'under'. Compare the results with your 'concsious' feelings and memories. Do a correlative analaysis with the session results. Repeat if warranted. Report back here with your findings, if so inclined. Do a bit of research or read a Bud Hopkins (et al) book to become familiar with the process if the idea intimidates you - but it may be better to conduct the session without "planting any seeds" or ideas in your brain ahead of time. In fact - poking around ATS 'for the past several weeks' may have already peppered your subconscious with plenty of material that may repudiate or invalidate your regression/posthypnotic results. If you spend hours looking at imagery of alien beings - it will be difficult to differentiate imagined from real experiences that surface after a hypnosis session.

Also search your soul, seek the truth in yourself, meditate, etc - these activities often yield positive results. Finally - be forewarned: Some ATSers can be brutal (and brutaly honest) - be careful what you ask for...

Good luck...

Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt
wake up to find the tent engulfed with "the light", you know, liquid light, crazy bright but not blinding, nor does it cast shadows.

Wake up next morning...

Dream. But don't take my word for it. After all, you're likely to get a ton of responses talking up the alien theory of what happened to you because that's what folks believe around here. I offer a mundane explanation like "it was a dream" and all I'll get is admonitions to be more open-minded and questions about what evidence I have that all you had is a dream. Never mind the fact that experiencing something weird and then waking up the next morning is exactly what happens WHEN PEOPLE HAVE DREAMS.

Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt
I also saw some pretty crazy stuff, like some human experiments

Experiment? Hmm, I don't think so.. Aliens don't do that. I think they just repair and upgrade human bodies. I never heard anybody who has been abducted say his/her legs were swollen after the abduction or like that.

I'm sick of people who try to give aliens a bad name.

Do you have any marks on your arms,legs or body? any scoop marks?

"If" you were abducted, most likely they will come back for you,just don't go camping alone and if you do, don't forget to take a 22 automatic and a shotgun with you

I'm down with the possibility that I have dreamed something, but I'm pretty positive on the whole white light thing. This happened like 10-15 years ago.

It may have all been a vivid dream or possibly something else explainable.

What were you doing or thinking about prior to sleep?

Did you take any drugs or alcohol that night?

Do you remember any out of the ordinary behavior in your dog?

Is this something isolated or do you remember other strange things in your life?

What were your interests at the time (reading material, hobbys, etc...)?

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Originally posted by jbondo
It may have all been a vivid dream or possibly something else explainable.

What were you doing or thinking about prior to sleep?

Just got done fishing, was tired, hit the hay.

Did you take any drugs or alcohol that night?

No drugs, no alcohol, not even aspirin.

Do you remember any out of the ordinary behavior in your dog?

That's what woke me up, she was kinda freaking, lshaking, ooking out the tent as if looking right at someone, but the tent was closed. I can remember all of about 20 sec of this part, then I woke up the next day with the tent flat on me.

Is this something isolated or do you remember other strange things in your life?

Part of the reason I posted here, although I'm old ( ;-) ) is that there are pieces, memories, etc, of life that appear to be missing. Now I assume with age, you lose some stuff, but I have more loss than most. No injuries, head or brain damage ;-)





What were your interests at the time (reading material, hobbys, etc...)?

Not UFO's ;-)

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KBD. I too wonder if I have been abducted. Here goes(and this is reallllly hard for me). I have just had my ninth birthday, it was the Fall of '74. I fall asleep and wake up in the middle of the night. I am standing in my Grandmother's yard(25 miles away from my home). In front of me stands a line of between 15 and 20 "little men". How do I know they are men? Because a certain part of anatomy that girls do not have(and a part that I had never seen before) is showing. The beings were approximately 4 feet tall with very white skin. I was not at all scared. The sky was bright but not like day. They communicated with me telepathically. I do not remember what they said except I felt very calm and peaceful and I was not scared. My family was not with me. The next thing I remember I was waking up in my own bed. I went to school that morning and told my 4th grade teacher. I heard her in the hall later that afternoon telling several other teachers. They were laughing, except for my prior years teacher (Mrs G) who knew something was not right. I was always considered a gifted child. I read at the age of 3 and was far more intelligent than my peers. I think Mrs. G knew I was not telling stories. I was never exposed to alien or occult TV and had never in my life seen a male's anatomy. I did not seem to think anything of this. I told my mom but she ignored me. I cannot recall any other instances until I was 16. I was driving out in the country at night and saw a brilliant bright light. Next thing I know my car is in the middle of the the road and my friend and I were dazed. We never talked about it. We just thought I lost control. I know I need regression hypnosis but I am too scared. By the way, I am a well educated professional (RN with BA, minor in psych)who has never been on psych meds or seen a psychiatrist. I am not crazy but am a little hyper at times. I ahve had several " dreams" about aliens lately, but just passed them off. I sometimes become extremely sleepy when I am on ATS and reading about mind control and aliens. I will also tell you that as a young child(under 5) I could communicate with my younger sister telepathically. I also remember that sometimes things around me moved around by themselves and I could get things where they needed to go by just thinking about it. What does everyone think????

Angel - nothing you have said gives me even the slightest reason to doubt you. You sound like a sensible, coherent, honest individual.

Your reluctance to go through a session with a professional indicates that though you felt no fear at the time of the encounters you feel there may be something that heppened during the encounter that may be unpleasant and you are avoiding the truth. Your obviously repressing in addition to experiencing some anxiety. Until you are ready to face the truth, you will feel unfulfilled in your present life.

My advice would be to try some of the mediation techniques or other methods to calm yourself as you explore your mind and memory (as an RN you're probably familiar with this). Upon reaching a level of comfort and acceptance seek the help and guidance of a professional (again, as an RN, you may have access to decent referrals).

I'm sorry you felt humiliated by your teachers - their conduct and behavior was unconcsionable, particularly to a child. It may be influencing your present trepidation. In any case - be careful (even here at ATS some posters can be quite cruel and unforgiving). Take care of yourself...

BTW - reports of genitalia on aliens is quite rare.

Good luck...

I guess the first thing that would be a serious clue is if your Tooshie hurt.
Another pretty good sign is if you find a flying saucer in your garage.

Originally posted by angelofmercy
KBD. I too wonder if I have been abducted. Here goes(and this is reallllly hard for me). I have just had my ninth birthday, it was the Fall of '74. I fall asleep and wake up in the middle of the night. I am standing in my Grandmother's yard(25 miles away from my home). In front of me stands a line of between 15 and 20 "little men".

I know that there are many cases where the abductee used clear quartz cystals to hinder the abductions and even stopped them.
Since the aliens stay away from clear quartz cyrstals like superman stays away from kryptonite, then let us try an experiment on them:

Get a good sized clear quartz crystal: www.bestcrystals.com...
and keep it away from you on the other side of where you sleep in your bedroom and keep a running camcorder behind the large crystal. If I'm right, the aliens won't see or effect the camcorder and you will possibly catch the abduction on film.



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So Angel, you say you have telekinesis and you can communicate with others telepathically? This is astounding to say the least!

Do you remember any connection to the military or talking to military personnel?

Can you still do these amazing things you did as a child?

Do you remember your pediatrician saying anything strange about you or looking bewildered after examining you?

If you had telekinesis, didn't you show it to your parents or anyone else?

Man, what a can of worms here. Sometimes I think this is all some kind of crazy ant farm. For instance, we have...

God
Satan
Demons
Ghosts (I personally have photographed them)
UFO's
Aliens
2012
Pyramids
Easter Island
Coral Castle (Florida, look it up)
Abductions
The Government
Chem Trails
Alchemy

I mean, one could go on for ever on weird stuff. I too have communicated with others via thoughts, and even had the "voice in the sky" answer specific questions about time, which the reply was "There is no time, there is only now" What the *#&$ ???

So, in short, it's no wonder why so many "sheeple" continue to go about their day to day lives not wanting to hear or know about what I consider to be the true reality, that seems to be intentionally masked from us. Stuff like what we are talking about is not for the crazy, it's for the people that are not afraid to question one's own surroundings and actually open their eyes and minds and not be afraid to take a look around.

With all that said, I'm exactly where I was a second ago

Interesting KBD!
Your post would seem to be a subconscious contradiction.

"can of worms"
"crazy ant farm"

As apposed to:

"sheeple"
"true reality" and
"not for the crazy"

Is this why your last line said: "With all that said, I'm exactly where I was a second ago”?

Angel, I hope I didn't scare you away with my questions. You are the very first person I have seen post the ability of telekinesis (that I remember).

Please don't go back into your shell now.

So, "IF" I was abducted, how would I know for sure?

Did you feel sick or have any strange symptons following the episode? Were you extremely thirsty when you "woke up?"

Originally posted by Sphinx,

(Experiment? Hmm, I don't think so.. Aliens don't do that. I think they just repair and upgrade human bodies. I never heard anybody who has been abducted say his/her legs were swollen after the abduction or like that.)

ok, so YOU think they JUST repair & upgrade humans? ok thats a thought im willing to accept as a possiblity, as its very possible.

BUT, what the other dude/dudette was saying is that they THINK they may have been abducted so i guess you should just go with it & not get on the
"i dont think so" high horse.

so 1st of all dude, if you know that aliens DONT do these things then you either are one or have been abducted by the friendly kind that probably just like to drink a few Grolsh, smoke a cigar & play cards,

2nd & most important of all is that you need to stop talking out of your sphinxter,
& also ever heard of the term OPENMINDED?

for example; if our own goverments can abduct people to do all sorts of differnt things then why cant aliens abduct us to do all sorts of different things,

you seem to have only a few views on what aliens DO & not what they MAY do,
im not going to say i dont believe in "aliens" because to say you dont believe is to say that you dont believe that theres any other life in the whole expanse of the universe, which is very narrow minded,
the whole universe wasnt ment for JUST us asswads to populate,

take earth for example, we were NOT the 1st inhabitants but were here now, which in the life'time' of our own galaxy never mind the rest of the universe, just a blink of the eye,
& look how fast we have evolved in the past 50yrs let alone the past 1000,

so from that id say there WILL be other advanced & way more so than us civilizations out there & you only have to look at the diverse cultures & different levels of evolved states of people on the earth to know that this will be the case everywhere else in the universe,
evolution is so far a natural occurance & thats way its so varied,

& whos to say what happens to us when we goto sleep & dream, some dreams are so vivid & realistic that i quite alot of the time get a sense of "was that dream real or not", iv never to my recolection atleast, had an abduction dream or experienced an actual abduction event,
even so im not going to dismiss the possiblity that the uncountable number of people who say they have just because i havnt, & then slam them saying oh aliens do that stuff when they abduct you,

whos to say that dreams arnt initiated to keep our brains from remembering whats realy going on?
whos to say ANYTHING isnt? well science & scientists is who & thay have so far stated that anything IS possible in any number of different dimensions
(quantum mechanics) the theory of everything, what was may still be but just not in our time & dimension,


i believe that there will be others out there in the universe OR perhaps even in our own galaxy that would be far more advanced than us, very capable of instant interstellar travel or even interdimensional travel & time travel, theres nothing in our science to say this is impossible, our science even suggests it as iv already said,

if this has sounded like ive flamed you then i apologise i dont mean anything bad by it.




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Thanks for the replies everyone. To answer your questions jbondo, when I was little, I do not recall ever being taken to a military base. I do remember that my aunt by marriage(married to mom's brother) had a brother who was stationed somewhere near us and would come to visit. Mom said he really liked me and my sis and played with us a lot. I remember that he looked oriental and his name was Ken. He seemed nice and I was never scared of him. My play telephone did talk to me one time when he was at my grammas. As for the abilities I had as a child, I only wish I could do those things today. I can say I am somewhat of a psychic and just "know" when something is not right and my friends tell me that when they think of me I will call them. I was very very young when I communicated with my sister telepathically. We still have a extremely strong connection and I know if something is wrong with her before she even calls(she had 5 strokes at 26 and had invasive breast cancer at 33). I have not been able to move things with my mind since I was about 3. Regarding my physical state during this time..My Ped never found anything amiss when he checked me out and there is absolutely no evidence that I was ever sexually abused. He told my parents I was an unusually intelligent child who was quite precocious.As for your last question regarding the telekinesis... I would only show my sister who was a year younger than me. She was my baby and my mom says I was a little mommy to her. One of my tricks was that when she communicated to me that she was thirsty, I would float her bottle into her crib! I was just a babe myself(probably 2 1/2 or 3, but I thought it was fun! I vividly remember these things so even though they sound way out there, I know they happened. Thanks for your support and kind words, Angel

Well if you happen to wake up in your back yard with your face scratched from hitting the dirt and the last thing your remember is reading ATS it is safe to assume that you may have been abducted...or you drank WAY too much!