Alex Jones - Trustworthy? Think Again

Heh Heh - yeah - the commercials on AJ's broadcasts are at best - a little fruity - and at worst completely rediculous.

Now they may have some decent products but the production values are laughable.

Of course - I'm not gonna fault AJ for the advertisements - I usually just FF throught them anyways... but they could certainly be off putting to someone who doesn't know the quality of AJ's research.

I think AJ's main web site (PP) is pretty excellent even though it is a little over the top - but here's why:

AJ and his reporters make a very clear distinction between showing the news of interest (with their sources) - and presenting their personal editorials.

Granted the selection of news stories is - in itself - a bit of an editorial on what's going on in the world - but the site is an excellent aggregator of under-reported news.

I have made it an important part of my daily news intake - and it has really educated me about a number of subjects including the NWO.

And - as a fellow Christian - I have never, ever, seen AJ use his religious beliefs to whitewash or coverup what could be a very damaging story about the Christian Church (Catholic or otherwise)

And I am very sensitive to that kind of thing - because I find it the height of hypocrisy for Christians to not advocate and promote full transparency (the Truth) in all parts of Human society.

Wheteher you can stand his presentations or not - and a lot of people can't - AJ is a true ally of truth seekers everywhere - and from what I hear (being a former Austinite) he's a genuinely good guy.

Let's not waste our energy attacking those few reporters/researchers out ther who really help advance our knowledge of what's happening in the world - but rather focus those energies exposing those who seek to truly decieve mankind.

Originally posted by StellarX

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Alex can be VERY abrasive and i actually had to take my headphones off since i just could not listen to the things he was saying about Noam Chomsky. According to the logic of the author and others i should have suddenly chosen to hate Alex because he made , in my opinion, i very large error in judgement about Chomsky's general motives. Why i should have disregarded all the volumes of solid data he has provided over the years is not discussed and probably for good reason as there is no logic that could defend such biased unjustified decisions.

When people choose to disregard certain sets of information it's very rarely based on the evidence itself and almost always related to bias and what they already believe.]

Chomsky is a Euro-Socialist pure and simple. I'll give that no one can no Chomsky's true motive but Chomsky but for about 30 years he's showed nothing but contempt for the American free-market style of economics whose productivity destroyed the Soviet Union. Yes, there gaps in the economy where unproductive folks fall through but for the majority of people of all races, the American economic system has rewarded them richly. Mostly Socialist Europe's economic productivity is about half the US per capita and still falling behind.

Chomsky himself is part of the East Coast Liberal/Socialist intellingentia that thinks only their opinion matters who get totally pissed off when the rest of the counrty ignores their liberal socialists blathering and goes quietly about the business of making the best of less than perfect world.

I don't think like any system in which the system takes away the right to fail completely. Desperation is a powerful motivator for most individuals to succeed at some minimal level at a social level. When you limit where the bottom will be at, you also limit where the to will be.

Originally posted by theutahbigfoothunter
Alex Jones....No offense....can be silly.

Agreed and what does that have to do with the information he presents on his website in the most serious of ways?

I am all for conspiracy theorists, don't get me wrong.

Why do you like conspiracy theorist? Personally i wish we did not live in world were the truth were so well hidden that we had to assign labels to those who attempts to discover it...

However it like a lot of things in life can be taken too fa This guy has done just that.

What is too far in your opinion and what sort of qualification is that in terms of what he presents?

Alex Jones website is so over the top it even makes me shudder.

So i am left wondering what exactly your qualification is? What type of authority do you wield on the topics he discusses on his website as i have found them to normally come right from the main stream press or official intelligence documents? What exactly do you take issue with?

I guess when being over the top is making you money,

Alex have calmed down a great deal over the last decade ( you should have seen him in the early 90's ) and i don't think that helped him in ANY way. I don't think his gotten rich yet or will any day soon but if that's what you must believe to dismiss him...

it would be financially beneficial to be just that way!

As i said he has changed his ways and it's rather clear to me that he does realise his personal antics can, have and will detract from what he presents.

If you can not concentrate on what the man has to say , instead of slandering him, maybe your in line for some introspection yourself.

Stellar

Originally posted by crgintx
Chomsky is a Euro-Socialist pure and simple.

I don't see how a 'anarchist' can be for big socialist government so please feel free to explain which of his books you got that idea from.

I'll give that no one can no Chomsky's true motive but Chomsky but for about 30 years he's showed nothing but contempt for the American free-market style of economics

I don't understand how you got this impression as Chomsky is not against free markets or free enterprise at all. How on Earth did you arrive at the conclusions that someone like him does not like the free market ( which is by the way not what the US has) and does not support the truly free markets we do not currently have on this Earth?

whose productivity destroyed the Soviet Union.

Please feel free to find where the authors of Reagan's rearmament strategy says that their strategy brought about the fall of the USSR. Feel free to attempt proving that a economy along the lines of the one's the USSR had can in fact be undermined by foreign economies. I am sure you wont mind explaining where there are so few defense analysts that thought the US had any chance to win a strategic war with the USSR in the year before it 'fell'.

Yes, there gaps in the economy where unproductive folks fall through

Please explain how people who work two jobs and 12 hours a day can be called unproductive if the companies they work for are making billions of dollars in profit. The vast majority of the Americans who live from pay check to pay check ( Somewhere between half and 75%) would disagree with your statement that they are unproductive or that they do not work hard enough.

but for the majority of people of all races, the American economic system has rewarded them richly.

The American economic system has drained large parts of the world of their vitality and resources for no net gain for the average American over the last thirty years. The American economic system results in great suffering for the majority of people it's force upon all over this world.

Mostly Socialist Europe's economic productivity is about half the US per capita and still falling behind.

Productivity is how much income you generate for your employer and is absolutely no measure of how well you do yourself. The average person in a sweat shop is on a percentage basis far more productive for his 'owner' than anyone in the so called 'service economies' of the west and according to international standards Europeans have higher living standards than Americans; i think those studies are a bit warped but feel free to argue with actual economist if you like.

Chomsky himself is part of the East Coast Liberal/Socialist intellingentia

Socialist? Why do you keep calling him a socialist when he is nothing of the sort? Intelligentsia?

that thinks only their opinion matters who get totally pissed off when the rest of the counrty ignores their liberal socialists blathering and goes

I have listened to many lectures Chomsky does at MIT and i can assure you he treats the redneck morons who disrupt his lectures ( outside of business hours ) with as much respect as i think is possible for any human being. I have never seen him treat anyone with anywhere near the type of disrespect that he so often becomes to target of. If you think this about Chomsky you are clearly not familiar with his books or work in general.

quietly about the business of making the best of less than perfect world.

The US foreign policy has caused great destruction&disruption for the majority of the world's citizens that came in contact with it and considering the good the US could have accomplished with the power it wielded since the second world war there is little good to be said for it.

I don't think like any system in which the system takes away the right to fail completely.

Right to fail? Any system that creates conditions where the vast majority fails despite working themselves to death is a system that can be improved upon. The problem with our current system is that it does not allow people 'out' of the system.

Desperation is a powerful motivator for most individuals to succeed at some minimal level at a social level.

Desperation also gets people to join volunteer armies to go kill innocent people they never met which did nothing wrong. Any system that creates the conditions we are currently experiencing on this planet ( and it is improving if far far too slowly) is a system designed to benefit a few and destroy the majority.

When you limit where the bottom will be at, you also limit where the to will be.

There is no 'bottom' in the free market and any system that accepts such eventualities for those who failed to survive the best attempts of the system to crush them is not a system most people want or require.

Stellar

I like Alex Jones dis info pro or not he still gives us heap loads of verifiable important information.

I also really like the guy he's got spunk he's out there doing what i wish i had the guts to do... absolutely brilliant to watch.

Everyone has to decipher the information they get for themselves whatever the source. Its always the case that some is true and some is not.

hey i love alex jones. i listen to his podcasts daily. its funny as hell when he gets fired up and starts sounding like his head is gonna explode. but he's got every reason to be upset....dealing with american brainwashed zombies is very aggravating, i know cause i work with a company full of them. just totally ignorant of what is happening around them.

Considering that CNN plugged iamawitness.com into their news show makes me speculate if iamawitness.com is truely 911 truth based. It could be disinformation because CNN never blog's peoples websites. Thats why there quick to Attack Rosie. I hope she doens't mysteriously die in her sleep like that 23 year old new york kid, or in a car crash like Princess Diana, or during a jet flight, or die in her building, or die by getting aids or something.

It really does suck that people could be so stupid as to fall for Alex Jones. The guy is a nut-case.. and the only reason his theories haven't fizzled out as bunk is become his followers are either mindless lemmings - or find his voice sexy.

Either way .. all of his followers are people who don't care to read anything but a computer screen, listen to any lecture but an online one.. and do any real research not involving a computer. So I suppose your being online addicts and drenched with this propaganda is fitting..

Every year he says that they will nuke america, lol. He makes his money out of fear, so what is supposed to do.

He never comes across, as someone who analyses information, like william cooper says. He just goes with what ever his guests say, and not bother to question it.

None of the talk radio hosts are any good for my money, art bell was quite good, but he retired when i started listening.

But the thread starter is right, about him and his predictions. Him and his guests are always prediction this and that, and occasionally something happens,. and they go, go back and you will see.

It is just a shame, we do not have william cooper anymore, because he sounds like someone who could break stuff down for the public properly, and articulate properly, what might be going on, without feeding on the fear, to sell.

Alex lies everyday and the vast majority of his lies are to get us scared. Then we get ads for survival gear every 7 minutes. He may have some interesing stuff on his show but it is all wrapped up in so much BS.

reply to post by doctorfungi


Alex has, a *unique* way of introducing himself, and his beliefs to anyone who will listen - and a lot of people who won’t listen too!

Regardless if he’s spot on 100% or 10% of the time - He NEVER GIVES UP.

Tell me someone else who has a pair a *turnips* big enough to never ever give up about 911, the NWO, the Diss/miss information of MSM, etc?

No one.

Alex does his job, and does it well.
Even if he does go over the edge a bit - at least he’s got an edge and wont back down from it.




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Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by doctorfungi

 

Alex has, a *unique* way of introducing himself, and his beliefs to anyone who will listen - and a lot of people who won’t listen too!

Regardless if he’s spot on 100% or 10% of the time - He NEVER GIVES UP.

Tell me someone else who has a pair a *turnips* big enough to never ever give up about 911, the NWO, the Diss/miss information of MSM, etc?

No one.

Alex does his job, and does it well.
Even if he does go over the edge a bit - at least he’s got an edge and wont back down from it.




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Okay now how can he do his job well if his accuracy ranges from 10 to 100% correct? The fact that he never gives up does not redeem lies. If I were a scam artist who preyed on sick elderly people, would it be cool if I just never gave up?

Nobody can predict the future. Alex Jones just tells it like he sees it. I prefer him talking about it and being wrong than not hearing anything about anything and then getting surprised when it finally happens.

reply to post by Copernicus


I can lie to you and give you false predictions. Why bother listening to him, listen to my show. Buy from my advertisers.

Originally posted by MorningStar8741
reply to post by Copernicus

 

I can lie to you and give you false predictions. Why bother listening to him, listen to my show. Buy from my advertisers.

Because there are many truths in what he is saying. I dont demand anyone to be 100% correct. If he is right about only 1% of what he is saying, its worth knowing about.

But thats just my opinion. Others are free to stop listening to him, it doesnt affect me.

Everybody should take what he says as an opinion, and then see if it sounds likely to you or not.


[edit on 27-9-2008 by Copernicus]

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You do realize that you just stated that you like to get your information from someone that may be a liar 99% of the time right?

Originally posted by MorningStar8741
reply to post by Copernicus

 

You do realize that you just stated that you like to get your information from someone that may be a liar 99% of the time right?

Sure, there are no certainties in life. Look at the mainstream media. You get lied to every day, or not told at all about certain events. Its just normal to me.

I trust Alex Jones more than Fox News.

Originally posted by Copernicus

Originally posted by MorningStar8741
reply to post by Copernicus

 

You do realize that you just stated that you like to get your information from someone that may be a liar 99% of the time right?

Sure, there are no certainties in life. Look at the mainstream media. You get lied to every day, or not told at all about certain events. Its just normal to me.

I trust Alex Jones more than Fox News.

I trust the person that broke into my car more than Fox news. Unfortunately, I refuse to put faith in one man because is lies the least of all of them.

Originally posted by MorningStar8741
Alex lies everyday and the vast majority of his lies are to get us scared. Then we get ads for survival gear every 7 minutes. He may have some interesing stuff on his show but it is all wrapped up in so much BS.

Any chance that you can prove that he does not consider what he claims to be likely or possible? You don't have to be scared and it's hardly his fault if your scared by the discussions he has with sometimes well placed informers. As for the survival gear you can blame GNN for that ( the station that carries his program) and he has on occasion laughed at some of the adds saying that they were stupid and that he is/has complained about them.

Interesting his show most certainly is and i can't say that i have ever been bored! What i have done is to sometimes switch it off when he gets too excited which is something he is doing less as he gets older and wiser.

In conclusion i think Alex Jones provides a valuable service to those who wants either alternative news or wants to be briefed on what outrageous things the MSM admitted to or claimed on any given day.

Stellar