Ouija, dangerous?

My father and his brother started doing spiritism with that, and it's the coolest thing ever (talking with spirits), they even got to talk with aliens through the spirit. Aliens that also landed in their garden... And much more weird things which no one here'll never believe anyway.
It's so stupid, I posted about it in this forum before, and all I got was crap, a great true story and people didn't even want to consider the possibility that it might be true. (close minded people not knowing a # is what I call that...)

TRAPPEDSOUL,

I'm glad nothing bad APPEARED to happen

to them....funny thing about that stuff,

one never knows, when it'll go, from an

adventure , into a nightmare ! then what

do you do ? say you didn't mean to ?



I maintain my position of it being dangerous.

goodluck...



toasted

Toasted, I honestly think it's a matter of intent. Too many of these "horror" stories come from individuals who don't really believe in it and think it's just a game. This attitude in turn leads them to summon dark forces which naturally have a negative impact on their experience. People who actually know how to use the board, rarely, if ever, have negative experiences with it.

speakeroftruth


well , not on my nickel !

I'm not trying it nor reccomending it

to anyone , but I'll make a mental note

of the INTENT part.

so, basically your saying, it needs

an operators license ?!!

right ?!

galiega, it just caught my eye funny or something. i thought it was a persons hand. it scared me so much i broke the circle. ever since then ive had some weird dreams, like real life dreams, so real every detail. two days after the incident i had a dream of an old man walking towards me on a dirt road. he was wearing an all white suite, but he was to far away to recognize his face until he got closer. as i passed by this old white house with black trim and 3 large pillars in front. as the man got closer i got an eerie feeling towards him cause he had his head down. he was closer now his hair is white grey. i then heard a babys cry in the top window of the old house. the old man now closer lifts his head. his eyes, i remember the coal black eyes. no white at all, just all black. the eyes are all black, i woke up. wierd.

I have tried the board a few times now & i have been lucky to get people that have been friendly but i know there will be a time when i wil encounter a not so friendly person

Toasted, it doesn't need a "operator's license" but a religious fanatic or a non-believer surely shouldn't mess with the board at all. A religious fanatic expects something "evil" to come out of the board's use, and a non-believer doesn't expect anything to happen therefore, conjures up whatever comes to mind.

But they did encounter som bad spirits too, but nothing that haunted them or was dangerous.

OK lets put this in perspective.

How many of you drive an automobile?
Did you just go out and buy a vehicle and start driving it?
In all probability you were required to complete some type of training prior to
being allowed to operate a motor vehicle. Even if your first was an off road agricultural
or recreational vehicle as mine was ( I rode dirt bikes and operated tractors long before
I was of an age to get a licence).

Did you just buy the first vehicle that came along? Or did you do somekind of research
into what you wanted and needed? Would a given vehicle meet your needs of economy
durability ,insurability, and reliability in your particular circumstances?

Do you own a firearm?
If you do, Do you have children? If So what have you taught them about your firearm?

Personally I was raised in a home with guns. Loaded Guns. My first memory of actually shooting a gun I was probably 3-4 years old. My Dad was kneeling on the ground behind me with his arms around me helping me hold the weapon. To me at
the time it seemed to be a huge revolver, many years later I identified it as a H&R
9 shot .22. I was duly impressed. Later I joined the local rifle club,took the NRA's
Hunter Safety Course, hunted, was on the shooting team in the service, Taught my Wife to shoot (when we got together she was deathly afraid of guns. I taught her to shoot with a Ruger Blackhawk .44 mag, it was all I had at the time.), and taught weapons classes.

The point of all this is Why would any sane and intellegent person pick up a tool, any tool and attempt to use it with out first gaining at least a rudimentry knowledge of its care and operation? The only answer I can come up with is it has considerable
to do with xianities disdain for and total lack of respect for beliefs other than their own. If it doesent fall within their patterns of myth and legend it is either evil or
phoney.

Too many of these "horror" stories come from individuals who don't really believe in it and think it's just a game.

OR, have way to much time on their hands, want to play but dont want to take the time to learn about it, or have had their mind totally FU by the fundie community.
OR ...

After some well needed research into this subject this is what I found..

Several other professional ghost hunters have been speaking about the safety--and dangers--of Ouija boards. We'd like to reply, and raise a few questions of our own.

Claim: If you use a Ouija board, you're asking for trouble.
Some professionals report that, when they're called to investigate a serious haunting, they almost always discover that the homeowner had used a Ouija board. Therefore, they warn against Ouija boards.

We'd respectfully suggest that this is putting the cart before the horse.

If a haunting is severe enough to attract the attention of a professional ghost investigator or team, the homeowner has probably tried many other ways to deal with the problem... including local ghost hunters, folk remedies and Ouija boards.

In other words, the trouble was already there. The Ouija board is more often a symptom of a desperate situation, rather than its cause.

Claim: Psychics can be ghost hunters, but they shouldn't conduct seances, etc.
Rather than outright disagree, we'd rather suggest that this is a semantic difference. Then again, maybe we're too picky... or even misguided.

The problem is rarely the seance, table tipping, Ouija board, automatic writing, or other divinatory method. Researchers should be wary of beliefs and attitudes rather than the tools and practices.

For many psychics, the tools--including Ouija boards, Tarot cards, and so on--are only slightly different than EMF meters and EVP recorders. (However, we readily agree that there's a big difference in the science of them.)

As long as you remain personally detached from the tools, the risks are generally minimal.

On the other hand, if anyone views the tools--even a voice recorder used for EVP--as "opening the door" to the unknown, the process becomes more invasive.

That's where you may find psychological and parapsychological risks.
Don't open spiritual doors
In general, we believe that investigators should avoid making any investigation personal.

Don't open any doors--mental or physical--for entities to "speak through." If the spirits want to communicate with you, it should be on the same terms as the living. We make it as easy as possible for them to speak to us through EVP, photos, and other measurable means.

Establish firm boundaries and know your limits
There are many shades of gray between scientific, external tools such as EMF meters and the very personal, psychic connection that many feel with Ouija boards and some other divinatory tools.

Some people induce the trance state to use a pendulum, Tarot cards, or a Ouija board. By definition, the trance state makes you vulnerable to suggestions outside yourself... and that includes messages and even commands from the spirit world.

The trance state should not be attempted by novice investigators, especially in haunted settings.

Some people also add personal, spiritual meaning to certain divinatory tools. For example, a ghost hunter may consider the Ryder Tarot deck safe but the Crowley "Thoth" deck dangerous.

Likewise, dowsing rods may seem safe because they can be used to detect water, oil, or natural gas. However, a Ouija board appears dangerous because its only purpose is to communicate with--or on behalf of--spirits.

We advise against Ouija boards as a research tool, but not because they're dangerous.

Do Ouija boards work? Who do they actually contact? Do they permanently open a door to entities that don't belong here, and could be dangerous?

We're not sure.
But, we don't believe that Ouija boards are dangerous. The risks begin when people use them as doorways to a realm that they don't fully understand and aren't able to close.

source
www.hollowhill.com...

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well written and informative. I agree with most of it.

But, we don't believe that Ouija boards are dangerous. The risks begin when people use them as doorways to a realm that they don't fully understand and aren't able to close.

Bingo!! To my notion, that sums it up completely. I think that it falls right in line with the whole intent concept that I have posted on this thread.