Language. Subliminal Influence. Caution: This may alter the way you think.

Originally posted by TheBorg

TheBorg

the borg [mirror] gro beht = grow bet.

grow? you bet!

resistants is futile!

re-sis-+(add)-ants

enterpriz (enter prize)

klingon

k = L <

what is the the most important word that begins with "L"? Love perhaps?

K = Love greater than (

who are they? who is visiting us?

ants sir maybe answer?
coven ant maybe covenant?
propel ants maybe propellants?
excel ants maybe excellence?
accel her ants maybe accellerance?
inherit ants maybe inheritance?
see ache ants maybe chance?
maybe i just have ants in my pants?

maybe one day people will say:
IN FLEW ANTS after the influence?

I think this entire thing is a bit of a stretch. I can't believe you've managed to go on for 12 pages with this stuff.

As previously stated, there is no real method or set of rules to how you are changing stuff around. You are just adding and removing letters at will. You could relate "Roller Coasters" with "Chocolate Pudding" and then link both to a "Golden Albatross" if you really wanted to. I don't see how this relates to anything subliminal either really.

My name makes a perfect anagram of "Racy Nudist", but it couldn't be further from the truth. So obviously the set of words associated with me isn't subliminally causing me to be something.

Anagrams for Esoteric Teacher:
A SCREECHIER TOTE
A CROCHETER TEE IS
A CITE ESCORT HERE
ACRE STOIC TREE EH
HASTE RECITE CORE
Full List



For The Servant Ophiuchus:
A VOUCHER SPENT THIS UH
A COHESIVE THRUSH PUNT
A CHIVES TRUE HUNTS HOP
A ECHO INVERTS HUSH PUT
Full List


So yeah really you can get anything out of anything.

If you want to see something really crazy, I bet you would be interested in the "God Machine" program that my friend created. You type in a question and submit it, and it randomly generates a random number of letters of a random origin (with it balanced out so vowels appear approximately as often as they should to create words). It actually gives pretty accurate answers sometimes. Here it is if you want to try it out:

The God Machine

(It tends to generate a lot of subliminal swears, rants, and general obscenities. I don't know why.)

[edit on 29-11-2006 by Yarcofin]

Yarcofin:

It doesn't do anything but give me gibberish everytime I use it. I see nothing in there that even remotely makes any sense as an answer to my questions. Mind explaining more in depth what it is that I'm supposed to be looking at in the answer box?

TheBorg

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by TheBorg

TheBorg

the borg [mirror] gro beht = grow bet.

grow? you bet!

resistants is futile!

re-sis-+(add)-ants

enterpriz (enter prize)

klingon

k = L <

what is the the most important word that begins with "L"? Love perhaps?

K = Love greater than (

Originally posted by Yarcofin
I think this entire thing is a bit of a stretch. I can't believe you've managed to go on for 12 pages with this stuff.

As previously stated, there is no real method or set of rules to how you are changing stuff around.

wolves

SEE = SE
V = arrow pointing downwards, so down?
LOW = LOW

SEE DOWN LOW = SEVLOW

SEVLOW [mirror] WOLVES

SEED DOWN LOW

So yeah really you can get anything out of anything.

maybe you are right?
What do you think of this:????

trinity = 3

911 Trinity = 9113

1 = A
2 = B
3 = C
4 = D
5 = E
6 = F
7 = G
8 = H
9 = I
10 = J
11 = K
12 = L
13 = M

9th letter of the alphabet = I
1st letter of the alphabet = A
13th letter of the alphabet = M

9113 = "I AM"

What does your "opinion" tell you?

POP Quiz:

Question #1:

1. This is the result of:

a) Proof there is a God.
b) Proof there is a conspiracy
c) Proof there is a coincidence.
d) _______________________ (other) Please specify.

So yeah really you can get anything out of anything.

maybe you are right.





[edit on 3-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by TheBorg

Sorry for the double post, but I just had to comment on this. That was pretty cool. I do prefer the Klingons over most other races in Star Trek. However, my favorite are the Borg actually, hence my name. Again, that was pretty neat. I still see a lot of ambiguity to it though.

TheBorg

then another that suites you better, perhaps?


the sound "th" will remain the same:

t h e b o r g [mirror] p r o d e t h

pro death or prodeth? prodeth = to be prodded.

more appropriate?

ear you fear

er u fer

E R U F E R [mirror] R E F U R E

referee?

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
There are 2,000 bits of information being integrated and processed per second in the conscious mind.

Scientists have measured the subconscious part of the mind and found that it averages 400,000,000,000 sparks of electricity per second being shared between brain cells.

There are 400,000,000,000 bits of information being integrated and processed per second in the subconscious mind.

I am not sure were your getting this information from, but I can assure you, as one of those guys that hooks up those electrodes and runs EEG’s off of them, that there are no brainwaves that are going 400 Gigahertz. Sorry but this is just not true. Gamma Waves are about the fastest running at a blistering 100 hertz.


I also fail to see how its possible to prove that the subconscious exists using an EEG machine, that is like trying to prove there is a soul with one.

Things that can be determined with an EEG machine are more along the lines of:

Is someone brain dead.
What stage of sleep are they in.
If they are not getting enough blood to a section of their brain.
If they are having seizures.
Etc…



[edit on 12/3/2006 by defcon5]

Originally posted by defcon5

I am not sure were your getting this information from, but I can assure you, as one of those guys that hooks up those electrodes and runs EEG’s off of them, that there are no brainwaves that are going 400 Gigahertz. Sorry but this is just not true. Gamma Waves are about the fastest running at a blistering 100 hertz.

where did you get your information from, i'm curious?

I have been taught, or been presented with, the idea from many sources that there are on average 400 billion electrical impulses being exchanged between brain cells in the subconscious quadrants of the brain, while there are only approximatley 2,000 impulses of electricity being exchanged between the synapses of the brain cells in the conscious parts of the mind. I've heard it from doctors with whom i worked with from 1988 to 1996, and have watched a few documentaries on the subject as well. Although people seem to have opinions about it, there were a few doctors (M.D.) in a movie i watched last summer called "What the Bleep Do We Know", i believe the name of it was. And, even after 18 years of working in or around the medical field, i still have not spoken with any health care proffesional who has offered a differing opinion. So, yours intrigues me, as you are a guy who hooks up those electrodes.

I also fail to see how its possible to prove that the subconscious exists using an EEG machine, that is like trying to prove there is a soul with one.

You can not differentiate between what part of the mind is the conscious part, and what part of the mind is the subconscious part?

Your equipment cannot measure how many times an electrical impulse travels between synapses in the brain?

Things that can be determined with an EEG machine are more along the lines of:

Is someone brain dead.
What stage of sleep are they in.
If they are not getting enough blood to a section of their brain.
If they are having seizures.
Etc…

Curious then? How is it that so many doctors i have met, or heard, say otherwise?

Is there a way to measure how many electrical impulses are being fired off between brain cells in the mind? I know we already know which part of the mind constitutes the consious mind, it is in the frontal lobes (forehead), which constitutes a relatively small portion of the brain, given the rest of the brain.

Perhaps i assumed it was an EEG, since that is the only peice of equipment i have ever seen that has been used to measure brain activity.

I promise i am not lying, and i have been given the same or similiar information from many sources, doctors, technicians, and documentaries, and books. So, where do they get their information from if they can't measure the ratio of how many synapses are active between brain cells in seperate portions of the mind?
I seriously don't know where they got their statistics from, but am asking is there a way, and if not, why do "sducated" people say otherwise?

No, i most certainly am not calling you a liar. If my information is wrong, you have my attention.

Thanks,
john

[edit on 3-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
where did you get your information from, i'm curious?

From being a Polysomnographer, which many members know that I am. This involves performing EEG’s on a patient to tell if they are awake of not by measuring the speed of their brainwaves which slow down when they fall asleep…

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
You can not differentiate between what part of the mind is the conscious part, and what part of the mind is the subconscious part?

Nope

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Your equipment cannot measure how many times an electrical impulse travels between synapses in the brain?

Nope, it measures brainwave activity, not individual synapses. There is no known medical equipment that measures that.

EEG has several limitations. Scalp electrodes are not sensitive enough to pick out individual action potentials, the electric unit of signaling in the brain, or whether the resulting electrical activity is releasing inhibitory, excitatory or modulatory neurotransmitters. Instead, the EEG picks up the activity of large groups of neurons, which produces a greater voltage than the firing of an individual neuron.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Curious then? How is it that so many doctors i have met, or heard, say otherwise?

Could not tell you, I have not spoken with them.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Is there a way to measure how many electrical impulses are being fired off between brain cells in the mind?

If there is, it has NOTHING to do with EEG which is the brain scan that uses electrodes.

EEG has several limitations. Scalp electrodes are not sensitive enough to pick out individual action potentials, the electric unit of signaling in the brain, or whether the resulting electrical activity is releasing inhibitory, excitatory or modulatory neurotransmitters. Instead, the EEG picks up the activity of large groups of neurons, which produces a greater voltage than the firing of an individual neuron.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
I know we already know which part of the mind constitutes the consious mind, it is in the frontal lobes (forehead), which constitutes a relatively small portion of the brain, given the rest of the brain.

The Frontal lobes have been found to play a part in impulse control, judgment, language, memory, motor function, problem solving, sexual behavior, socialization and spontaneity. The Frontal lobes assist in planning, coordinating, controlling and executing behavior. People that have damaged frontal lobes may experience problems with these aspects of cognitive function, being at times impulsive; impaired in their ability to plan and execute complex sequences of actions; perhaps persisting with one course of action or pattern of behavior when a change would be appropriate

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Perhaps i assumed it was an EEG, since that is the only peice of equipment i have ever seen that has been used to measure brain activity.

Well you got the part correct about it using electrodes, but not much else…

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
I promise i am not lying, and i have been given the same or similiar information from many sources, doctors, technicians, and documentaries, and books.

Please show me one source that explains how an EEG picks up brainwaves firing at 400 gigahertz. If that is the case we must have buried a lot of alive people because that speed would show up as flat line or artifact on an Brain Death EEG test. Maybe you should start here:

EEG

Delta is the frequency range up to 4 Hz and is often associated with the very young and certain encephalopathies and underlying lesions. It is seen in stage 3 and 4 sleep.

Theta is the frequency range from 4 Hz to 8 Hz and is associated with drowsiness, childhood, adolescence and young adulthood. This EEG frequency can sometimes be produced by hyperventilation. Theta waves can be seen during hypnagogic states such as trances, hypnosis, deep day dreams, lucid dreaming and light sleep and the preconscious state just upon waking, and just before falling asleep.

Alpha (Berger's wave) is the frequency range from 8 Hz to 12 Hz. It is characteristic of a relaxed, alert state of consciousness. Alpha rhythms are best detected with the eyes closed. Alpha attenuates with drowsiness and open eyes, and is best seen over the occipital (visual) cortex. An alpha-like normal variant called mu is sometimes seen over the motor cortex (central scalp) and attenuates with movement, or rather with the intention to move.

sensorimotor rhythm (SMR) is a middle frequency (about 12–16 Hz) associated with physical stillness and body presence.

Beta is the frequency range above 12 Hz. Low amplitude beta with multiple and varying frequencies is often associated with active, busy or anxious thinking and active concentration. Rhythmic beta with a dominant set of frequencies is associated with various pathologies and drug effects, especially benzodiazepines.

Gamma is the frequency range approximately 26–100 Hz. Gamma rhythms appear to be involved in higher mental activity, including perception, problem solving, fear, and consciousness.

Sorry, I just don’t see any 400 gig’ers there.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
I promise i am not lying, and i have been given the same or similiar information from many sources, doctors, technicians, and documentaries, and books. So, where do they get their information from if they can't measure the ratio of how many synapses are active between brain cells in seperate portions of the mind?

I seriously don't know where they got their statistics from, but am asking is there a way, and if not, why do "sducated" people say otherwise?

Maybe they are not actual Dr’s books, list me one and let me check it out. It could be a bunch of New Age guys who have the tendency to call themselves Dr when they are in fact not. I have known guys that have gotten online PHD’s and written things under the label of Dr. These kind of guys don’t actually depend on anything that anyone in the medical field considers to be real science. I see that a lot in "New Age" circles...

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
You can not differentiate between what part of the mind is the conscious part, and what part of the mind is the subconscious part?

Nope

Huh. Well, why can't what we percieve with be capable of percieving itself, i wonder?



thanks for the information, it was most useful. i do value the knowledge of a Polysomnographer. If you rent the movie "what the bleep do we know", you will find 2 or 3 published doctors in that movie that give the same information i did concerning the mind. and NO, i am most certainly not calling you a liar, i am merely attempting to ascertain the truth, and it seems the truth is i hear a lot of conflicting information, in life, and in general.

Thanks,
John

[edit on 3-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
then another that suites you better, perhaps?


the sound "th" will remain the same:

t h e b o r g [mirror] p r o d e t h

pro death or prodeth? prodeth = to be prodded.

more appropriate?

Depending on how one might construe the Pro Death stance, that could be true. As for the liking to be prodded, who the hell doesn't like it? It keeps us awake, and makes us aware that others pay attention to what we say. That way, we make sure not to say stupid stuff that misleads or harms others. So, yes, in this case I very much like to be prodded.

A little more explanation on the Pro Death stance might be in due course though. Please??


With respect,
TheBorg

I do not understand what word games have to do with subliminal learning. You can also rearrange the letters of nuclear to spell unclear. Word games. Nothing earth shaking.

Originally posted by groingrinder
I do not understand what word games have to do with subliminal learning. You can also rearrange the letters of nuclear to spell unclear. Word games. Nothing earth shaking.

It's just fun is all. I think we should make a game out of this. Do a word search, and see what we can decipher from it.

TheBorg

That's it exactly - FUN.

However I don't think ET thinks it is fun. I actually read this thread for laughs now. I cannot believe it has gone on for 12 pages with a single hint from ET regarding it's meaning and/or purpose.

maybe you are right?
What do you think of this:????

trinity = 3

911 Trinity = 9113

1 = A
2 = B
3 = C
4 = D
5 = E
6 = F
7 = G
8 = H
9 = I
10 = J
11 = K
12 = L
13 = M

9th letter of the alphabet = I
1st letter of the alphabet = A
13th letter of the alphabet = M

9113 = "I AM"

Originally posted by TheBorg
As for the liking to be prodded, who the hell doesn't like it?

It keeps us awake, and makes us aware that others pay attention to what we say.

According to the reality show "Star Trek the Next Generation", i would say Jon Luke Pacard (sp?)

A little more explanation on the Pro Death stance might be in due course though. Please??

certainly.

the b o r g

g [mirror] = p
b [mirror] = d

so:

if "b" reversed is "d"
and "g" reversed is "p"

then:

"the borg" becomes "the dorp"

t h e d o r p [mirror] p r o d e t h

prodeth or pro deth (deth = death *humanity's opinion added a silent "a")

hope this explains better how i got "pro deth" from.

Originally posted by defcon5

I am not sure were your getting this information from, but I can assure you, as one of those guys that hooks up those electrodes and runs EEG’s off of them, that there are no brainwaves that are going 400 Gigahertz. Sorry but this is just not true.

I have an odd question:
Is it possible to get readings of "brain waves" off a bowl of jelly?

Ok, clear your mind.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

"COMMUNICATION IS KEY"

How many languages do you speak defcon5?

How many forms of communication do you use defcon5?


And, that is all your "opinion" permits you to understand or integrate consciously, or even listen to, because you are not listening to what does not exist. And i assure you, what does not exist most certainly is not communicating with us, right???

What does your "opinion" tell you is the answer to this question:
What is ZERO plus ZERO?

0 + 0 = zero, right?

0 + 0 + 0 still equals zero, right?

no matter how many zeros one adds together, the sum is still zero, right?

now go look at your reflection in a mirror. tell me how many were looking back at you through your reflection?

you thought there was "One", right?

But the cells of your mind are now stuck with an illogical obsurdity. the same brain cells you utilized to even think that there was "One" looking back at you had to ask the question:

"If i am zero self conscious, and zero self aware, and zero intelligence, then how come all these zeros add up to equal "ONE" ?"

And then and there a barrier was installed within the human mind, seperating the human mind from the human mind, as a self defense mechanism, because the cells that think they are cannot be with the cells that know they are not.

BARRIERS! FENCES! BLOCKADES! COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN AT THE CELLULAR LEVEL!

"COMMUNICATION IS KEY"

How many languages do you speak defcon5?

How many forms of communication do you use defcon5?

For most people the answer is 1.

A person who has never made a concerted effort to step into their own psychi to evaluate the evaluator will not have the tools necessary to comprehend what it is i am conveying to them. they simply have no basis for comparison within their minds that there are multilple forms of communications transpiring within them, and leaking out into a shared reality.

Source/Link:
www.religioustolerance.org...

The human body contains 220 different types of cells

Source/Link:
en.wikipedia.org...

The human body contains a large number of bacteria, most of them performing tasks that are useful or even essential to human survival. Those that are expected to be present, and that under normal circumstances do not cause disease, are termed normal flora.

It is estimated that 500 to 1000 different species of bacteria live in the human body (Sears, 2005). Bacterial cells are much smaller than human cells, and there are about ten times as many bacteria as human cells in the body (1000 trillion (1015) versus 100 trillion (1014); Sears, 2005). Though normal flora are found on all surfaces exposed to the environment (on the skin and eyes, in the mouth, nose, small intestine, and colon), the vast majority of bacteria live in the large intestine.

"COMMUNICATION IS KEY"

How many languages do you speak defcon5?

How many forms of communication do you use or utilize defcon5?

For most people the answer is 1.

Why? People value their self and their "opinions" too much. and it is their "opinion" that keeps them limited to communications. Maybe, for som, a day will come when some evaluate their minds, their observers, their subconscious mind.

And, those who have never done this will not know of what it is people like me speak of.

But, perhaps, just maybe, within the confines of the human subconscious mind there are parts of the brain that communicate with the cells of the body, and perhaps, just maybe there are cells within the body that utilize some form of communication to "talk" to the 500 to 1000 different forms of bacteria, and countless viruses that live within the body as well.

How many forms of communication is the conscious opinion willing to listen to?
answer = ?

How many forms of communications are being utilized by the body, but not listened to by the conscious brain? Having never been to that part of your own brain, perhaps there are:

219 types of human cells that are sending signals to the brain.

and .....

500 to 1000 types of bacteria neccesary for human servival communicating with the human cells which are communicating with the human subconscious which is trying to communicate with the conscious mind, but the "opinion" is not permitting it. BE NOT AFRAID for just one moment, and maybe you would not be afraid.

How many forms of communication is the conscious opinion willing to listen to?
answer = ? (free Will)

How many other lifeforms outside of the conscious "opinion" are there?

219 different types of your own cells.
500 - 1000 different types of bacteria.

that is at least 719 different forms of communication transpiring within your own body, that your conscious mind is incapable of percieving. why? fear.

If you are "1", then how many lifeforms within your own body are you not listening to?

Bacterial cells are much smaller than human cells, and there are about ten times as many bacteria as human cells in the body (1000 trillion (1015) versus 100 trillion (1014)

In your opinion why is your "opinion" ignoring trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions.......... of your own thoughts?

"subconscious" does not always mean the brain. people who walk around observing the world with their "opinion" are actually permitting their body to be unconscious without even being consciously aware of it. because they have not found the strength to send their conscious mind into their subconscious mind to obtain their own truth, so something else is running the show, while you are always looking outwards for what already exists within.

All the cells of your own body that you deem "automatic" may make you an "automaton" without you even being consciously aware of it. But your subconscious has a clue, which it is attempting to bring to you. i have a belief this is true.

A person who has never made a concerted effort to step into their own psychi to evaluate the evaluator will not have the tools necessary to comprehend what it is i am conveying to them. they simply have no basis for comparison within their minds that there are multilple forms of communications transpiring within them, and leaking out into a shared reality.

What it is i am conveying in words is best described through experience of it, or else you will just have more questions, and keep throwing your "opinions" at me, until you run out of "opinions", in which case "people like me", will still have only words of truth. And, when your opinion is left with "nothing", then your "opinion" will know what it is you have put your own cells through by making them believe they are nothing. And, if your "opinion" does not change and you never look within you, then you will die as a mortal. But, what can cease to exist? nothing can totally just cease to exist. so, perhaps, you just start over again somewhere else as just "i am".

[edit on 4-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by thebox
I actually read this thread for laughs now. I cannot believe it has gone on for 12 pages with a single hint from ET regarding it's meaning and/or purpose.

I agree with thebox on this one. I too read this thread every so often just to see if it can get any more ridiculous.

As the title of the thread is Caution: This may alter the way you think; about what exactly? There is no meaning to this thread (other than totally random word non-association and manipulation) and it serves no purpose on what should be a conspiracy forum.

Sorry, I just don't see the point. But for 12 pages, someone must find this useful.

Originally posted by Lunarstablos

Originally posted by thebox
I actually read this thread for laughs now. I cannot believe it has gone on for 12 pages with a single hint from ET regarding it's meaning and/or purpose.

I agree with thebox on this one. I too read this thread every so often just to see if it can get any more ridiculous.

Really? Because when myself and other people apply the rules of the bible to the words of the bible, we even see the future was written down in the book, as well with all words, and with all languages. But, you can see only what your "opinion" permits you to, it would seem. i guess your truth is in the eye of your beholder. so what is holding you?

Of course you do. But, then again you are not thinking.

rid eye see you lose

r i d i c u l u o s [mirror] SOUL YOU SIDE DIRE?

R E D I C U L E S
red i see you less.

R E D I C U L E S [mirror] S E L U C I D E R
sell luci dear or seal luci dear.

As the title of the thread is Caution: This may alter the way you think; about what exactly?

I guess think about belittling the concepts in this thread, and attempting to belittle the author of this thread. so, i guess that is exactly what you think about. you must be really smart and big, too.

There is no meaning to this thread (other than totally random word non-association and manipulation)

What is so "random and manipulative" about applying the same rules of the bible to the words in language? I mean after all, i had already applied what you called "random and manipulative" rules from the bible to verses and keywords in the bible and got other verses and keywords found in the bible.

and it serves no purpose on what should be a conspiracy forum.

are you sure you are paying attention to details and reality?

consperuse
cons peer use
cons spear us
ease you reaps nock

Sorry, I just don't see the point. But for 12 pages, someone must find this useful.

yes, som one does find it useful.

If you find the thread without merit, one day you will think differently. But, for now you can choose to have more reverence for your opinion than what you do for the truth. there is truth in this, you just do not have the tools to comprehend the truth of it.

first sentence of introductory post:

Somethings should be discovered, not taught. This is one of those subjects, but fortunatly for most, most people will not accept it.

[edit on 4-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]