UFO or Secret Plane Over Tynemouth

Please, lets not derail this thread by investigating smoke rings, C2C and the excellent Burning Man Festival.

Back on topic, folks.

OK ok no more smoke rings though I feel its not off topic, considering it maybe smoke.

This image was on C2C where it was introduced to the masses of the paranormal. My first thought on that site was, not another smoke picture.. I'm just here giving my formal opinion.
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Mr. Keith Saint "the photographer" took another immediate photograph of the same scene but the "artifact" had disappeared.

It's feasible to consider that smoke scatters and dissipate pretty fast. That could explain the "artifact" not being in the next picture.


I don't think its ET nor either the esoteric Black Manta.
Lets just call it a unidentified flying smoke object or UFSO.
I created another illustration, critic's are welcome.

Originally posted by XPhiles
OK ok no more smoke rings

though I feel its not off topic, considering it maybe smoke.

This image was on C2C where it was introduced to the masses of the paranormal. My first thought on that site was, not another smoke picture.. I'm just here giving my formal opinion.
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Mr. Keith Saint "the photographer" took another immediate photograph of the same scene but the "artifact" had disappeared.

It's feasible to consider that smoke scatters and dissipate pretty fast. That could explain the "artifact" not being in the next picture.


I don't think its ET nor either the esoteric Black Manta.
Lets just call it a unidentified flying smoke object or UFSO.
I created another illustration, critic's are welcome.

Are you purposly triing to derail this?because IMO it does not lok like smoke or dissapaiting smokebut I may be wrong?

What time was this taken on Sunday 3rd??? I was out sailing in Tynemouth that afternoon and didnt see/hear anything other than the commercial flights into Newcastle airport and occaisional Lifeguard chopper

Originally posted by timski
What time was this taken on Sunday 3rd??? I was out sailing in Tynemouth that afternoon and didnt see/hear anything other than the commercial flights into Newcastle airport and occaisional Lifeguard chopper

Hi Im Keith and I took this photo on the 29.8.06
According to the metadata on the RAW file it was taken 20.03hrs
A RAW file is a kind of digital negative
We heard no noise when I took this shot and I would say that it was 2 to 3 miles away
I had the camera at about 30 degrees

This article was about a series of UFO sightings in Michigan back in 1994 that weather service radar tracked, corroborating eyewitness accounts.

The article speculates that perhaps they were witnessing one of a handful of black op aircraft projects, including the much discussed "Black Manta" project.

www.denix.osd.mil...

I first saw this a couple of days ago at UFO digest and to tell the truth it all looks kinda airbrushy to me. In fact at first I thought it was a painting.

The whole scene looks somewhat artificial to me.

Originally posted by timeless test
My first thought when seeing this image was of the similarity in some ways to so called "rods".

In particular, the relatively well defined spine of the object and the very fuzzy and ill defined wings. Whilst many rod pictures are of much longer objects some are truncated and almost all show the wave like formation seen in the "wings" of this object.

It is generally believed that the vast majority of "rod" pictures are blurred images of small insects

I thought rods myself. But this would likely be on a larger scale. I can see debunkers calling rods insects but the scale or size would discount that debunking attempt based on the pictures I have seen.

Originally posted by Sainty999

Hi Im Keith and I took this photo on the 29.8.06
According to the metadata on the RAW file it was taken 20.03hrs
A RAW file is a kind of digital negative
We heard no noise when I took this shot and I would say that it was 2 to 3 miles away
I had the camera at about 30 degrees

According to your metadata...what is the shutterspeed/aperture/lens for this exposure?
Looks very similiar to a motionblur "artifact"...

Originally posted by tomra

Originally posted by Sainty999

Hi Im Keith and I took this photo on the 29.8.06
According to the metadata on the RAW file it was taken 20.03hrs
A RAW file is a kind of digital negative
We heard no noise when I took this shot and I would say that it was 2 to 3 miles away
I had the camera at about 30 degrees

According to your metadata...what is the shutterspeed/aperture/lens for this exposure?
Looks very similiar to a motionblur "artifact"...

Originally posted by tomra

Originally posted by Sainty999

Hi Im Keith and I took this photo on the 29.8.06
According to the metadata on the RAW file it was taken 20.03hrs
A RAW file is a kind of digital negative
We heard no noise when I took this shot and I would say that it was 2 to 3 miles away
I had the camera at about 30 degrees

According to your metadata...what is the shutterspeed/aperture/lens for this exposure?
Looks very similiar to a motionblur "artifact"...

Originally posted by Sainty999

Originally posted by tomra

Originally posted by Sainty999

Hi Im Keith and I took this photo on the 29.8.06
According to the metadata on the RAW file it was taken 20.03hrs
A RAW file is a kind of digital negative
We heard no noise when I took this shot and I would say that it was 2 to 3 miles away
I had the camera at about 30 degrees

According to your metadata...what is the shutterspeed/aperture/lens for this exposure?
Looks very similiar to a motionblur "artifact"...

Having another look at the metadata I was suprised to see the shutter was as slow as this but it was 1/13s @ f10 focal length 200mm this will explain the slight blur
My friend Steve who was with me did remember that this shot was one that i took on a tripod as I did tak over 150 shots that night
I'm a landscape photographer and its quite normal for me to use a slower shutter speed and smaller aperture
This shot was going to be one that I could use the sky to blend in to another photo and was just pure luck to get this in shot
I was sure it was nothing but a gull or moth but it was when I had a closer look when I had it on the PC
Im not looking to pull the wool over anyones eyes I have the RAW file and that can be looked at by anyone

No -what ever is in that picture is a solid object of an unusual configuration.

Take it into photohop, desaturate it, use the smart sharpen filter to remove gaussian blur, then see what you have.

This is not a translucent object at all - it is solid. there is no light seeping through the object ie if it was smoke there would be some back ground seeping through.

great picture you have there. Thank you for sharing.

img82.imageshack.us...


Here I used smart sharpen, desaturate, and then inverted the colours to give an idea of the shape.

Very unusual what ever it is, and the only thing i can think of is either a UCAV, or another one of those 'organic type' UFO's that have been spotted in the past.


Sainty, I would be deeply appreciative if I could get you to u2u me so i can give you my email addy to have the origional as it were. Would this be possible? I'd love to have a real good look at it.

[edit on 15-9-2006 by D4rk Kn1ght]

Originally posted by jbondo
I first saw this a couple of days ago at UFO digest and to tell the truth it all looks kinda airbrushy to me. In fact at first I thought it was a painting.

The whole scene looks somewhat artificial to me.

Not at all I took this image as I have already said this shot was taken with a 200mm lens shutter speed was 1/13s @ f10
I used a tripod but the shutter speed would explain the slight blur
I have this on a RAW file this is like a digital negative
You can easily check that these files have been messed about with as the histogram would show evidence of manipulation
If I was to fake this Im sure some photoshop expert would be able to detect it
For the record I dont think its the manta
my email is [email protected]
I will send you an imge of the plane it looks more like
The image I will send you was sent to me by a Chris Parr who is an editor for a UFO magazine in the UK
I dont know anything about these secret planes and Im not that bothered if little green men are flying them but just found it intresting
I first sent this to my mate who was with me and it was him that submitted the shot to websites
Contact me by email and I shall send the pic that Chris sent me

Originally posted by kuhl

Originally posted by XPhiles
OK ok no more smoke rings

though I feel its not off topic, considering it maybe smoke.

This image was on C2C where it was introduced to the masses of the paranormal. My first thought on that site was, not another smoke picture.. I'm just here giving my formal opinion.
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Mr. Keith Saint "the photographer" took another immediate photograph of the same scene but the "artifact" had disappeared.

It's feasible to consider that smoke scatters and dissipate pretty fast. That could explain the "artifact" not being in the next picture.


I don't think its ET nor either the esoteric Black Manta.
Lets just call it a unidentified flying smoke object or UFSO.
I created another illustration, critic's are welcome.

Are you purposly triing to derail this?because IMO it does not lok like smoke
or dissapaiting smokebut I may be wrong?

I took this photo and I have had all kinds of suggestions of what this might be but smoke is about the most stupid yet.
Must be a reasonable explanation for it but I think it has more chance of it been superman than smoke

Saint,
have emailed you about those images - Would love the RAW and also the pic you are talking about to have a good hard look at both.

Thanks for your time. DK.

[edit on 15-9-2006 by D4rk Kn1ght]

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
img82.imageshack.us...


Here I used smart sharpen, desaturate, and then inverted the colours to give an idea of the shape.

Very unusual what ever it is, and the only thing i can think of is either a UCAV, or another one of those 'organic type' UFO's that have been spotted in the past.


Sainty, I would be deeply appreciative if I could get you to u2u me so i can give you my email addy to have the origional as it were. Would this be possible? I'd love to have a real good look at it.

send me an email I will email you the image [email protected]
I only logged on here so that I could put my side of the story
[edit on 15-9-2006 by D4rk Kn1ght]

Please check out this site as I have posted the image and further down I have posted what I think it could be
This was sent to me by a Chris Parr

www.usefilm.com...

Originally posted by rand
Bigger image here

The leading and trailing edges are curved; all stealth aircraft we know about have straight edges. Not only that, but left and right "wings" seem to curve in different directions. That's characteristic of a flat, flexible, kitelike object.

Try bosting the contrast a bit (the image is looks overexposed): suddenly it looks more like a sunset, and the object looks just like a diamond-wing kite. There's even a hint of a tail.

Would go with a kite idea but this was easily 2 or three miles out at sea
I took it with a 200mm lens and then had to really crop it
I also took another pic seconds after and the image was gone
But I can see how you might think it was a kite