"The Iranian nation will not accept for one moment any bullying, invasion and violation of its righ

Whatever mate, live in your dilusional world. The time will come when we will send the lizard eatear supporters to the sea thats right you might want to go back and worry about the camel milk! sorry but.......


The whole world has moved on since 27 years ago! it has nothing to do with the *reproductive Arabparast regime in Iran! you are saying that we are more advanced now than we were 30 years ago. well ofcourse we are *! ( I am going to get punished but what the heck)


He ( I mean Ahamadi) used to shoot people in the head! to make sure they are dead! funny you forgot about that He was a leader. I did not say he was invovled directley but he was a "brain" behind the operation.


He is a nutter who thinks he can talk cow patties* and get away with but I tell you not this time.




tick tock tick tock tick tock... that is right Islamic Republic tick tock tick tock!!!!




*moderator edit. Certain portions of this post were not polite and attempted to circumvent the censors. Please review the thread General ATS discussion etiquette

[edit on 1-9-2006 by dbates]

Originally posted by zurvan
Whatever mate, live in your dilusional world. The time will come when we will send the lizard eatear supporters to the sea

thats right you might want to go back and worry about the camel milk! sorry but.......

He ( I mean Ahamadi) used to shoot people in the head! to make sure they are dead! funny you forgot about that

He was a leader. I did not say he was invovled directley but he was a "brain"

behind the operation.


He is a nutter who thinks he can talk $hit and get away with but I tell you not this time.


tick tock tick tock tick tock... that is right Islamic Republic

tick tock tick tock!!!!

Dude you're worrying me. Are you seeing someone for this issue you have?

I noticed your location on your profile. Do you, perhaps, have any connection with Iran back in the Shah/CIA days?

Originally posted by bodrul

to be honest the world should declare war against the US since almost all terror attacks are linked back to the united states.
for example alquida (cause of countless thousends of deaths)

[edit on 1-9-2006 by bodrul]

We can't do that! We might hit Osama!

what issue are you talking about? why do i need to see someone?

Originally posted by zurvan
what issue are you talking about? why do i need to see someone?

How come Bush refuses to speak with Iran? They trade with Communist nation like China, a nation who has said on numerous occasions that they wish to nuke all American cities. They gave aid to a pathetic, disgusting regime in N. Korea and they are still involved in multi-lateral discussion with them, so, how come they still refuse to negotiate with Iran?

I’m afraid you’ve been hoodwinked, for you choose only to see the evils of the Iranian Regime. Your apparent loss of memory extends back far enough that you care not about the issue of the Cabal in Washington funding the Iran Contras and overthrowing a fairly moderate regime; only to replace it with a Theocracy.

The loony professor President of Iran, who actually has spoken much truth vs. the Satanist pathological liar in the White House, choose your evil, but choose wisely.

Originally posted by zurvan

He ( I mean Ahamadi) used to shoot people in the head! to make sure they are dead! funny you forgot about that

He was a leader. I did not say he was invovled directley but he was a "brain"

behind the operation.

Proof?

Sorry mate, I have no proof execpt the word of mouth of people who lived through that time and saw things happen with their eyes. Anyone out there who can provide some proof?

mind you this is Iran we are talking about! how much proof about anything can you find online?

Originally posted by zurvan

mind you this is Iran we are talking about! how much proof about anything can you find online?

Not enough to condemn a man, a nation, and its people to death, invasion, and destruction, thats for sure.

""The Iranian nation will not accept for one moment any bullying, invasion and violation of its rights"

Thats right, they accept it for far longer than a moment
say 27 years and you might be getting warm.

Ahh Zurvan buddy. That's ridiculous. You can't fake a reply to your original post. Stop trying to keep your thread alive. You've posted that propaganda before.. the Iranian people have had a much more honest government since 1979. It's been sourced above..

[edit on 5-9-2006 by La Balance]

www.cnn.com...

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's hard-line president urged students Tuesday to push for a purge of liberal and secular university teachers, another sign of his determination to strengthen Islamic fundamentalism in the country.

With his call echoing the rhetoric of the nation's 1979 Islamic revolution, Ahmadinejad appears determined to remake Iran by reviving the fundamentalist goals pursued under the republic's late founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Yes...Iran is a free country.....

Ahmadinejad's call was not a surprise -- since taking office a year ago, he also has moved to replace pragmatic veterans in the government and diplomatic corps with former military commanders and inexperienced religious hard-liners.

Iran still has strong moderate factions but Ahmadinejad's administration also has launched crackdowns on independent journalists, Web sites and bloggers.

Yes free country indeed......

"Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a meeting with students.

Yes a free counrty with freedom of ideas........

Now after my scarcastic remarks....I'll leave you to return back to your deliusions that Iran is a 'free' country and president A-mad-islam is not crazy and a dictator.

Originally posted by ferretman2
Now after my scarcastic remarks....I'll leave you to return back to your deliusions that Iran is a 'free' country and president A-mad-islam is not crazy and a dictator.

No , Iran is not a free country. It is a theocracy and as such it can't be. The very institution of a Supreme leader and Guardian Council is undemocratic.

Yet, Iran has a big potential to become a more relaxed Islamic Republic and has the political institutions necessary to became a religious republic witha big dose of democracy.
en.wikipedia.org...

It might have moved in the right direction (the former president was liberal and had enough support), if it wasn't for constant war mongering of the USA and Israel.

The American policy of domination and aggression in the Middle East and its continued presence as an armed force there is what tipped Iran over the edge.
The current president should rightly be called a populist. He was elected by people that are scared of becoming a target of aggression. People care less for freedom if they are frightened, they want protection at all cost (same thing happening in the USA.

As well as that, Iran has the right to defend itself, especially when thereatened with preemptive strikes by Israel and the USA.
You must understand that a foreign policy cannot consist of bulling other countries to do what you think is good for you. it will create a backlash of opposition and will help the extremists to support their case.

I certainly don't appreciate your attack on Islam (A-mad-Islam), this contributes nothing to the quality of the discussion and is unnecessary.

[edit on 7-9-2006 by mf2hd]

Right on zurvan....
TICK TOCK. This dude is a looney tune and he's about to have a nuke. He thinks he's friggin alah (or whatever) for christ's sake! He's threatned Isreal, threatned the US...ok big deal. They harbor terrorists!!!!

Here's the deal.....His deal is to be martyred...and meet his virgins, It's ours and the Isrealis job to ARRANGE THAT MEETING!!!

TICK TOCK!

[edit on 7-9-2006 by KnowItAll]

Originally posted by KnowItAll
Right on zurvan....
TICK TOCK. This dude is a looney tune and he's about to have a nuke. He thinks he's friggin alah (or whatever) for christ's sake! He's threatned Isreal, threatned the US...ok big deal. They harbor terrorists!!!!

Here's the deal.....His deal is to be martyred...and meet his virgins, It's ours and the Isrealis job to ARRANGE THAT MEETING!!!

TICK TOCK!

[edit on 7-9-2006 by KnowItAll]

Now I am sorry i even bothered to contribute to this thread.
Is no one able to hold a cultured exchange of ideas anymore?
Anyone would like to address the issues I mentioned or should we just let the thread die since its quality as measured by the above statements is pathetic.

So by early 'retiring' of liberal professors and shutting down the free press is a step to a moderate religious democratic Iran??

Put the top back on the glue.

Originally posted by zurvan
what issue are you talking about? why do i need to see someone?

Zurvan,

Don't let people get you down. I agree with what you say. There is so much spin coming from both sides that is is hard to find the truth in any of it. What it all comes down to is that the Iranian people have a right to live free, as do all human beings.

We are all one one origin: the planet Earth. We are all one race: the human race.

Everyone argues with each other further obfuscating the real problem. Those behind the curtain relish the idea of divide and conquor. Iran this and US/Isreal that only furthers their design.

If we all keep up with that line of thinking, they will have the horrible war that they so desire. All the Iranian lives lost for nothing but a failed dream of empire.

Our founding fathers gave us something that a lot of us have forgotten:

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

Learn it and then share it with everyone you know. This should be the pledge that we speak everyday as we hold our hands to our hearts. This should not only be done in the US but all over the world. This document says nothing about these rights only pertaining to US citizens. We are all one people.

The sooner we all realize that, the sooner our world becomes a better place for us all in which to live.

all right ex man i could not of said it better myself. way above

What it all comes down to is that the Iranian people have a right to live free, as do all human beings.

Of course they do. They also have the right to choose the way they live. If they happen to endorse Islam let them do so. Being free doesn't equal becoming a western style society.

We are all one one origin: the planet Earth. We are all one race: the human race.

And yet we are of different cultural backgrounds. In some instances the cultural differences are so big that only those who study different cultures can claim any sort of understanding. The world is infinitely more complex then what you are saying.

Everyone argues with each other further obfuscating the real problem.

I beg to differ. Simplifying is dangerous. It makes us ingnorant of the differences between people. Because of this ignorance and unwillingness to accept the differences and endorse varoius views of the world we are in conflict.

If we all keep up with that line of thinking, they will have the horrible war that they so desire. All the Iranian lives lost for nothing but a failed dream of empire.

Not sure who you are reffering to when saing "they". The failed dream of American Empire?

Our founding fathers gave us something that a lot of us have forgotten:
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
Learn it and then share it with everyone you know. This should be the pledge that we speak everyday as we hold our hands to our hearts. This should not only be done in the US but all over the world. This document says nothing about these rights only pertaining to US citizens. We are all one people.

Your founding fathers are not everyone's founding fathers. This sounds dangerously like spreading one particular ideology. Do not try to make the world look like America. Your view of the wold is not the only one, and certainly not better then other ones, it's just different. Just to give one example: The idea of individualism in a collective, organic societies (such as alot of asian societies) is an alien one. It simply doesn't exist there.
Live and let live.

Put the top back on the glue.

This is exactly why this is my last contribution to this thread.

Originally posted by ferretman2
www.cnn.com...

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's hard-line president urged students Tuesday to push for a purge of liberal and secular university teachers, another sign of his determination to strengthen Islamic fundamentalism in the country.

With his call echoing the rhetoric of the nation's 1979 Islamic revolution, Ahmadinejad appears determined to remake Iran by reviving the fundamentalist goals pursued under the republic's late founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Yes...Iran is a free country.....

Ahmadinejad's call was not a surprise -- since taking office a year ago, he also has moved to replace pragmatic veterans in the government and diplomatic corps with former military commanders and inexperienced religious hard-liners.

Iran still has strong moderate factions but Ahmadinejad's administration also has launched crackdowns on independent journalists, Web sites and bloggers.

Yes free country indeed......

"Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a meeting with students.

Yes a free counrty with freedom of ideas........

Now after my scarcastic remarks....I'll leave you to return back to your deliusions that Iran is a 'free' country and president A-mad-islam is not crazy and a dictator.

Great post and you only scratched the surface of what that regime is like.

Originally posted by ferretman2
So by early 'retiring' of liberal professors and shutting down the free press is a step to a moderate religious democratic Iran??

Put the top back on the glue.

Maybe its hanging boys from cranes so they choke to death merely for being gay?

Or hanging girls for being "unchaste"?

Originally posted by AscendedMaster
I hope your not one of those people who thinks Ahmadinejad is evil and wants to kill Israelis and Americans....have you studied anything about this man? He against zionism and American Imperialism, which we all should be

Ahmedinejad is evil. Why? Because Ahmadinejad said he would "wipe Israel off the map" after Israel said if he didnt listen to them, they would hit 200 Iranian sites? Yea I wonder why they didnt show that full quote in the media, eh, bunch of traitors...

We are being sold a huge lie, and sadly many people are buying it at a very high cost....their minds.

Increasingly the problem is Israel and its supporters wherever they are. It is becoming painfully obvious.

This suggests that Israel has 200 nukes and can deliver them? Wow! I didn't know that.. how many do they really have?