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www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2001/12/16/wbush16.xml
Mr Cheney, a former Defence Secretary, urged the President to head for the Offutt Air Force base near Omaha, Nebraska, which he knew from experience had a highly sophisticated strategic command centre. As the two men talked, Air Force One soared at an acute climb angle to 40,000 feet - its maximum altitude, where it was joined by an escort of F16 fighters from a base near Jacksonville, Florida.
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As Air Force One left Sarasota, the president intended to return directly to Washington, Mr. Bartlett said. Mr. Bush initially had ignored advice from Vice President Dick Cheney, calling while en route to a White House basement command center, that Washington appeared to be under attack and the president for his own safety should remain away, according to an official in the vice president's office. Once airborne, Mr. Bush spoke again on a secure phone with Mr. Cheney, who relayed a new message that changed the president's mind, White House officials later said. The vice president urged Mr. Bush to postpone his return because, Mr. Cheney said, the government had received a specific threat that Air Force One itself had been targeted by terrorists. Mr. Cheney emphasized that the threat included a reference to what he called the secret code word for the presidential jet, "Angel," Mr. Bartlett said in an interview
Days after the attacks, Mr. Cheney had said word of the threat had been passed to him by Secret Service agents. But in interviews, two former senior Secret Service agents on duty that day denied that their agency played any role in receiving or passing on a threat to the presidential jet.
Norad fighters stationed at Langley Air Force Base near Hampton, Va., conceivably might have reached the Washington area in time to shoot down the hijacked plane that hit the Pentagon, Capt. Craig Borgstrom, one of the pilots who scrambled from Langley, said in an interview. But the three fighters in Virginia remained on the ground for a full 50 minutes after Norad had learned from the FAA that passenger jets had been hijacked, and 27 minutes after the second World Trade Center tower had been hit, according to Norad. The independent panel, formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, has said it is investigating the cause of that delay.
Retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold, who was in command of all Norad fighters in the U.S. on Sept. 11, said in an interview that the slow reaction at Langley reflected initial confusion about whether an attack on the U.S. was really under way. He also blamed what he said was relatively late notification by the FAA that one or more hijacked planes seemed to be headed for Washington.The FAA has said that it notified the military immediately when it determined that one or more jets had probably been hijacked.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Where exactly did you come up with the code word "Angel"?
And also, what is the purpose and direction of this thread? Which point are you trying to prove?
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This article is from the washingtonpost.com
By Dan Balz and Bob Woodward
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, January 27, 2002; Page A01 Staff researchers Jeff Himmelman and Lucy Shackelford contributed to this report.
Originally posted by Griff
Hmm....I just have to wonder about these people who have just joined, don't use periods and IMO don't make much sense coming on here and thinking they rule the site? It really makes me wonder what the F is going on.
First of all, thread starter...skadi is not a moderator
Second, she is (I think) against the "official" story
Third, what is your problem? She asked a simple question and you try and blast her?
Again, I hate to say this...........are you government officials getting so desperate?
If you're not and legit...I appologize. I have seen in the last 2 months at least 3 new people who join, say their peace, don't use proper grammer/punctuation and just plain old jump on anyone who questions/disagrees? It happens from people who are from both sides. Disinfo is a powerful thing.
Mods.....I'm sorry for pointing this out. I know talking about posters and not being on topic is against the rules but I had to point this out.
On topic......I saw one mention of "angel" in your post. I reiterate what skadi asked....what is your point?
Originally posted by dstarsfan879905
Ok so, poster person, is the point of your thread talking about nuclear war and over-riding nuclear codes? If that's the case, what does "Angel" have to do with it? So they have a code name for Air Force One, so what? They have code names for everything. What's the big deal? This is a pointless thread. Delete.
Originally posted by scubadiver
This is the complete pdf file for "Synthetic terror" by Webster Tarpley. Read chapter 9: " "Angel" is next - The invisible Government speaks" (page 247 or thereabouts)
Very interesting.
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IX: “ANGEL IS NEXT” – THE INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT SPEAKS
From 10:00 a.m. to approximately 8:00 p.m.
(on Sept. 11), U.S. government officials
were not thinking that this was the work of
Arab terrorists, but rather that it was an
expression of a military coup being carried
out by U.S.-based extremists who were
capable of provoking a nuclear war.
Réseau Voltaire, Paris, September 27, 2001
“Sheikh: They [the Americans] were
terrified thinking there was a coup.”
(“Bin Laden” tape of December 2001, Meyssan 2002 197)
The current tenant of the White House most probably was not familiar in advance with a detailed outline of the 9/11 plot. He was assisted in not knowing and not acting by his cognitive impairment, his contempt for detailed, accurate information, and his habitual mental lethargy. Whether or not he suspected that something was coming, whether or not he knew this or that detail, are all matters to be determined with the help of open archives and cross-examination of the subject. The guess here is that Bush knew far less than many of his most severe critics might surmise. Bush’s crime was not the crime of knowing everything in advance; it was rather the crime of not knowing what he should have known, and of then compounding that by capitulating, by turning the US government and polity in the direction demanded by the terror plotters. Better than “Bush knew,” as we will see, is “Bush surrendered.” “Bush knew” makes a good political slogan, but it cannot be a guide to understanding the true scope of what actually happened. Students of 9/11 who build their work around the thesis that “Bush knew” are on treacherous ground.
As I pointed out in my 1992 study of Bush 41, the typical model of a Bush presidency is that of a weak and passive executive who comes into office with few ideas beyond the basic desire to rule and to appoint rich cronies to key posts, and who sits in the White House waiting for his networks to tell him what it is he must do. These impulses, naturally, are mediated through the handlers of the White House palace guard. But here lies the danger: when Bush was running for office, it was widely conceded by his supporters that their candidate was a moron, but a moron who would hire the best advisers available, who would guide him through the crises of his presidency. In this sense, the Bush 41 presidency was an oligarchical presidency, with the chief magistrate in fact functioning as the front man for a committee. The events of 9-11 showed the grave danger of such an oligarchical presidency: what happened if the advisors turned out to be traitors, misfits, or absent, as they did on 9/11: the presidency itself was paralyzed and
incapable of acting, as occurred during the dark eternity of horror the world experienced as Bush busied himself with reading “My Pet Goat.”
If the forces favorable to a policy of open-ended clash of civilizations warfare had been in total control of the government, they might have been able to orchestrate the outbreak of war directly, through an incident involving a target country like Iraq – somewhat along the lines of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. This would have been enough to convince the mass media and the population. But the coup faction, the golpistas, felt that they needed to convince the state apparatus as well. It is significant that they did not pursue this option. Rather, they felt that they had to shake the state to its foundations, threaten the life of Bush in a number of ways, and run the risk of being caught in some highly treasonous activities, in order to get what they wanted. This can be shown through an analysis of Bush’s conduct on 9/11.
As part of his “endless summer” approach to the presidency which had seen him on
vacation for over 40% of his time in office up to 9/11, Bush was spending the evening of September 10 at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, a narrow coral island in the Gulf of Mexico, off Sarasota, Florida. This resort, a favorite destination for plutocrats, was billed as “America’s greatest tennis resort.” Here Bush dined on the evening of September 10 with his brother Jeb, the governor of Florida, and a group of Republican politicians and rent seekers. Bush awoke at 6 AM on the morning of September 11, 2001, and went for his habitual jog. But in the night of September 10 to 11, Bush’s security detail received a warning that he was in imminent danger. The Sarasota ABC affiliate reported on 9/11: “The warning of imminent danger was delivered in the middle of the night to Secret Service agents guarding the President,” said reporter Monica Yadov “and it came exactly four hours and thirty-eight minutes before Mohammed Atta flew an airliner into the World Trade Center. (Hopsicker 2004 40)
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“Sheikh: They [the Americans] were terrified thinking there was a coup.”
(“Bin Laden” tape of December 2001, Meyssan 2002 197)
Originally posted by ADVISOR
Damn right they are worried about a coup, does any one have a clue what a civil revolution would do?!
(color and/or underscores are my emphasis, & not in the original quotes)
Originally posted by mondegreen
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The vice president urged Mr. Bush to postpone his return because, Mr. Cheney said, the government had received a specific threat that Air Force One itself had been targeted by terrorists. Mr. Cheney emphasized that the threat included a reference to what he called the secret code word for the presidential jet, "Angel," Mr. Bartlett said in an interview
Days after the attacks, Mr. Cheney had said word of the threat had been passed to him by Secret Service agents. But in interviews, two former senior Secret Service agents on duty that day denied that their agency played any role in receiving or passing on a threat to the presidential jet.