What will happen to US when 9/11 is proven an inside job?

I remain hopeful that much more will be investigated and exposed once the balance of power in Congress has been changed.

The balance of power has nothing to do with it. Regardless of whether you think this was a govt conspiracy or not, the planning was going on well into the previous administration, which let mutliple terrorist attacks on the US go unanswered and also let OBL go to ground. It was also under that leadership that NK developed nukes and Iran continued its "business" relationship with Russia. Don't think that you are going to find protection or change from a politician just because they come under a different label.

Originally posted by Mouth
Since we elect, er, appoint those who run the US government, would not the public therefore be responsible for 911? I mean, when someone hires a hitman to kill another, both the hitman and the employer both go to jail...

are you saying we should take all the republicans that voted for him,
and take them out back and shoot them???....not a bad idea.,but.....

what about the democrats???

what about all the people who voted for kerry, but
the diebold machines picked bush instead????
will they be shot too???

if all this is proven, and it goes all the way to the TOP,
and they all get convicted,,

do all the people that bush appointed jobs do they still stay???
like the judges, fema director, cia head,.........
what about all the laws he made?? will they be null and void???

if NOT, then they still get away with it

even if it goes all the way to the supreme court,
how many of those were appointed by bush and father????
i'm sure they OWE favors

bush was not elected in 2000, he took over the controls..
the voting machines were so bad, but we used them anyways???

ANY OTHER COUNTRY, would have recounted (twice) , revoted,
protested, then riots..

thanks to mr bush though, everyone NEEDS 2 jobs now,,
and they are so busy just trying to live, they dont have the time to
vote,protest,riot,

its the rich business owners who can take off work to vote,and lobby
everyone else has to work or be fired........very convenient indeed!!

then after business hours they suddenly slam the voting booth doors,
so that the poor people who got off work early still cant vote!
and the ones who did vote for kerry,
got their ballots misplaced/lost/thrown out

why not REQUIRE everyone who has a drivers liscence,
to vote every year , or it expires........that'll change things,
unless of course we still use the same faulty diebold machines,,

why do you think they are trying to extradite that hacker from england????
cause they need to keep the republicans in power in november,
and they need someone to hack into the voting machines,

you know, every democrat vote, gets multiplied by .5
and the republicans, get 1.5x

as for what will happen to us, when this is proven....

#1 bush and co will pull a ken lay, and disappear, with the 2 trillion that rummsfeld
cant find,, the billions stolen from iraq, and the social security money,,and
homeland security money,, disaster relief money..9/11 funds.....leaving us without any money or security.....you know JUST LIKE ENRON

#2 the day before their sentencing, we will get a MAJOR terror attack (for distraction)
and everything will be put on hold till resolved

#3 they get off scott free either by bushes appointed judges,
or tha fact that he was never really president in the first place...

#4 china gets pissed and fills all their shipping containers withweapons and
soldiers, and in 1 night they take out the whole country....(very possible)

#5 we protest and all get zapped with their new and improved,
microwave tanks, bio weapons, robots, you name it,, they will kill us all
then let all the mexicans take our place........(bigger profits)

#6 they all go to jail,, but all get presidential pardons,,

number 6 now makes me think , maybe, maybe, ken lay did really die....
bush could have pardoned "kenny boy"

Grady:

Thanks fro posting the links on 8/7/2006 at 10:32 a.m.

I looked at the linked pages and images. Rather than support your argument that other similar "pancake" collapses of buildings have occurred, the text, images, and videos at those links show no such thing.

The collapses shown there are sometimes described in the image captions and text as "pancake" collapses. But they show nothing that even approaches the WTC type of collapse. I suppose if you just read the text and close your eyes without looking at the images and videos you could draw the conclusion that something comparable has occurred, or you might draw that conclusion just because your bias is in need of whatever support it can muster no matter whether such support in fact exists.

The collapses shown at your linked web pages are predominantly collapses of brick, mortar, frame, and concrete structures of just a few stories tall, at most. You included images of collapsed single story structures with truss-type roofs which we have all seen collapsed under heavy loads.

You also included collapses of brick, mortar, concrete, and frame structures caused by powerful earthquakes. Those are not in any way comparable to what happened at WTC on 911.

Perhaps you posted those links as a joke. I can't think of any other rational reason why you'd offfer them as evidence that non-CD pancake collapse of buildings such as the WTC towers is a common occurrence.

Yes, technology is wonderful.

No, my Google button isn't broke.

Below are the URLs you posted:

www.thekansascitychannel.com...

gees.usc.edu...

www.agiweb.org...

www.mceer.buffalo.edu...

transcripts.cnn.com...

www.drj.com...

www.hallofflame.org...

query.nytimes.com...

www.google.com...

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Originally posted by yeah right

are you saying we should take all the republicans that voted for him,
and take them out back and shoot them???....not a bad idea.,but.....

Whaaaaaaaa? So if it was an inside job the voting machines... pardon... Ken...Starr? I guess I don't get the part where we all turn into Mexican Enron robots.

Originally posted by hogtie

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

There are two types of people.

1). I knew what happened before they told me.
2). I never saw it coming.

Which one are you?

Well since you asked...

Neither. I'm one of those who choose to apply more wieght to the thousands of experts which have studied these incidents from top to bottom and have come to the same conclusion. I'm one of those who have been doing his part in the war on terror: not as much as some, but more than some. I am one of those who do not fall prey to fringe semi-experts who are looking to become famous and make money off of 9/11. I am one of those who understand what tenure means, giving professors the ability to say pretty much whatever they want, regardless of evidence, also to benefit their own careers and wallets. I am one of those who hold the irrisponsible fringe responsible for real hidden agendas never being taken serious because of the loud-mouth irrationality that alienates the rest of the world. I am one of those who refuse to inflate the egos of psudo-scientists by swallowing everything they feed me, regarldess of how irrational it is. I am one of those who choose to apply education and common sense to problems, and actually try to do some part to solve them, rather than sit around and conjecture.

I hope that answers your question.

Now I have a question for you. Let's say that you are correct, and the "truth" is found out. Just what are you going to do about it?

Well put and good question. Have you heard John Mayers song, "Waiting for the world to change?"

Great song, but the answer to your question is I am waiting for the calling within my heart. The future will hold that answer.
AAC

what was the new york director of state emergency management
doing in montana during 911

". Jacoby confirms the day's events. "I was in Big Sky for an emergency managers meeting""

www.popularmechanics.com...

jacoby was the guy with the pilot who supposedly shot down
the plane in shanksville

and they use our fighter jets to transport theese people???

no wonder we got attacked

and it was what 50 minutes between the first plane and the pentagon attack??
yep our fighter jets were probably transporting all sorts
of official people around......too busy to defend america

9/11 had nothing to do with Democrats VS. Republicans.

The US government as a whole fell on its face. Bipartezen Terrorism! the Democrats and the Rupublicans alike looked like incompetent asses IMHO! Your talking about a major attack that was in the works for who knows how many years before we got hit.

All those polititians, and they can't agree long enough to avoid getting attacked?

Doesn't say much for either party, now does it?

Tim

I've never been much for the whole NWO idea. But who knows? I also don't think it is a REP or DEM thing. When the truth is uncovered, I'm sure there will be people from both sides surprised. AAC

What if we got the 33% of Americans (100 million) who believed that it was an inside job to meditate on the truth to surface? Remember DC crime rate went down when 4,000 people used their collective will to make it happen?

If it were only as easy as I suggest.

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Originally posted by ghost

The US government as a whole fell on its face. Bipartezen Terrorism! the Democrats and the Rupublicans alike looked like incompetent asses IMHO! Your talking about a major attack that was in the works for who knows how many years before we got hit.

All those polititians, and they can't agree long enough to avoid getting attacked?

Doesn't say much for either party, now does it?

Tim

I think that right there sums it all up for me. And yeah right's comment about the emergency manager's meeting puts a nice ribbon on the whole thing for me. Nobody really knew what emergency management could realistically mean prior to 9/11 and Katrina. The general bumbling beuacracy of the monolithic govt is too icompitent to pull something like 9/11 off. Think about it. The smartest people all leave govt work.

Originally posted by hogtie
Nobody really knew what emergency management could realistically mean prior to 9/11 and Katrina.

I don't know about you, but I believe forsight is a prerequisite in a position like that. The excuses that I keep hearing, like, nobody knew how a 100 story building would fall.

I'm not buying it.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

I don't know about you, but I believe forsight is a prerequisite in a position like that. The excuses that I keep hearing, like, nobody knew how a 100 story building would fall.

I don't mean the buildings falling specifically. I'm talking about the chaos within the infrastructure. It is one thing to calculate how the hospitals will fill up due to a chem/bio attack, etc etc, but I think that what happened in NY and LA was really outside the comprehension of most civic leaders and policy makers.

Originally posted by hogtie

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

I don't know about you, but I believe forsight is a prerequisite in a position like that. The excuses that I keep hearing, like, nobody knew how a 100 story building would fall.

I don't mean the buildings falling specifically. I'm talking about the chaos within the infrastructure. It is one thing to calculate how the hospitals will fill up due to a chem/bio attack, etc etc, but I think that what happened in NY and LA was really outside the comprehension of most civic leaders and policy makers.

Perhaps. But in this day and age, we should expect more R & D. In LA they knew that the levels could only withstand cat. 3. So in that assessment, is there a guy in the room that says, "Hey, what happens if it's a cat 4 or 5? Well, are engineers think tis and that and this will happen. Then they prepare for that. I don't see it as that difficult. But I will state that heinsight is 20/20. AAC

The bottom line is that most people in the United States -- probably about 90 or 95 percent -- don't buy the conspiracy theories. Admittedly, many people here do; but this is a gathering place for conspiracists.

When you have a group of professors of economics, English, and education talking about complex activities the bases of which they simply don't understand, most Americans will just yawn and walk off.

And well they should.

Originally posted by Off_The_Street
The bottom line is that most people in the United States -- probably about 90 or 95 percent -- don't buy the conspiracy theories. Admittedly, many people here do; but this is a gathering place for conspiracists.

When you have a group of professors of economics, English, and education talking about complex activities the bases of which they simply don't understand, most Americans will just yawn and walk off.

And well they should.

You obviously aren't privvy to the pole that just came out (confirmed by FOX as well) that 33-36% of americans believe it was an inside job. That is paramount in itself. But I agree, this place is a conspiracy haven, which usually I don't take stock in, but the elements surrounding 9/11 are way too fishy. AAC

Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
In a world where large groups of Bush supporters still believe that Iraq was directly involved in 9/11 and did pose an imminent threat to the U.S. with WMD's anything's possible.

Perhaps when you fell from the tree your understanding went askew... this has been discussed many times already...

The government of Spain, and some other governments, did find evidence linking terrorists involved in the planning of 9/11, which was done in Spain, and Saddam's regime...

and the president of Russia gave evidence and information since 9/11 and up to the war started that the regime of Saddam was planning to make terrorist attacks in U.S. soil and U.S. interests, among some other evidence.

However, the 9/11 Commision did not find "concrete evidence" that Saddam's regime was involved in 9/11. There is a big difference between what I just said and the lies and exageration some people keep repeating trying to deny the facts.

Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Tell a big enough lie over and over again until it becomes truth.

Yep, and that lie is that the government was behind 9/11.

Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
I will go to my grave believing that 9/11 was a created New Pearl Harbor event.

Good for you, it shows how close minded you are to reality and facts....

Wrong post.

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bush was not elected in 2000, he took over the controls..
the voting machines were so bad, but we used them anyways???

REPLY: You really need to do some research. Every single recount (six, I believe) showed Algore lost. Even the Miami Herald, not exactly a bastion of Conservatism, spending $1.2 Million on an investigation, showed not one single Black, or anyone else, as disenfranchised.

ANY OTHER COUNTRY, would have recounted (twice) , revoted,
protested, then riots..

REPLY: You're correct..... most every other country in the world is Marxist, Socialist or Communist.

thanks to mr bush though, everyone NEEDS 2 jobs now, and they are so busy just trying to live, they dont have the time to vote, protest, riot,

REPLY: HA HA HA ..... Everyone???

its the rich business owners who can take off work to vote,and lobby
everyone else has to work or be fired........very convenient indeed!!

REPLY: It's against the law to fire anyone for voting.

then after business hours they suddenly slam the voting booth doors,
so that the poor people who got off work early still cant vote!..... and the ones who did vote for kerry, got their ballots misplaced/lost/thrown out

REPLY: Where and when?

[quote why not REQUIRE everyone who has a drivers liscence, to vote every year,

REPLY: Because this is a free country. If a law was passed forcing people to vote, those like you would bitch about that, too........ most likely.

Well to answer the topic question........nothing will happen. You know why? Think of the movie "V for VENDETTA". Instead of england,its the U.S. 9/11 gets us scared,then an even bigger attack comes along and we gladly give up our rights to the gov't in order to be "safe". Patriot act anyone?

Whoever plotted 9/11, if they're American, and in on it, they should be charged with high treason.