What will happen to US when 9/11 is proven an inside job?

Hm, I'm not sure exactly what would happen.

As another member said, I think events from V for Vendetta would be possible. However, I think events like that would only occur if members from within the government admitted that it was true. However, if it is only "proven" through extensive evidence from members outside of the government, I think the effect will still be somewhat minimal, considering all of the people that would ignore such a result for various reasons.

Riots and chaos like in V for Vendetta probably wouldn't be the most positive approach, considering that I don't think our government has yet reached that level of fascism at all.

I don't see the government ever revealing that 9/11 was an inside job. Ever. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason Northwoods was declassified was because they could tell everyone that they never even considered doing such things. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But I hope, if it does ever happen, it happens within my lifetime.

Maybe it begins the WW3 with civil war predicted by John Titor.lol

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Well with our do nothing attitude.. we will say "Aw, thats horrible! .. well il just vote Democrate next election!"

When what we should do is take the ones responsible, and hang them in the streets.

Wasn't it Bush Sr. that said if people knew what they had done people would do just that? I agree wholeheartedly though, people will take some false security in the electoral system while unbeknownst to the majority of them, that system has been completely compromised by the Help America Vote Act (like we needed their friggin help). Our electoral system has been completely subdued and is no longer a threat to the powers that be at all. Read through this thread...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by the_sentinal
So nearly one third of the nation now believes that 911 was an inside job THATS A HIGH PERCENTAGE!!! and it's making some people in the media nervous because with such a percentage they feel like they have to cover it some how....

So, when's the last time the media tried to cover up government activity. The New York Times has made a point of exposing every government secret they can get their hands on for the last 40 years, regardless of the threat to national security.

You might also remember that 50% of the population have an IQ of less that 100, so numbers alone don't tell say much for credibility of opinions.

That 50% is the red states. The sheeple that won't question the administration. All they care about is NO ABORTION and NO GAY MARRIAGES! That's all they vote on. AAC

You may see this as a BIG HUGE ASSUMPTION of Government conspiracy, but PUHLEEEEEEZE! The media has always been on the opposite side of government, no matter their party's affiliation. That's what makes the media worth watching (or listening to).
-Sour

[edit on 7-8-2006 by SourGrapes]

Not true. This has changed drastically in the last few decades. Interesting enough, this coincides with the erosion integrity in Govrnment. The media used to be very Pro-Adminstration. Don't believe the hype!

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by the_sentinal
You have to admit grady that 33% is alot of people....

It is an awful lot of people, but the number of people who believe it speaks nothing as to the veracity of the belief. A lot needs to be known about that figure and not only what sampling methods were used, but just how the question was phrased. Maybe someone has some information on the poll from which that number was taken.

Grady as I respect your opinion. I just believe you are unable to conceive of such an atrocity. I see you are an elder here on ATS, which I respect greatly, but you have seen beautiful America in your years. I am extremely family with our history, it's just that things have changed, and not for the better. AAC

Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
There are over three dozen equally suspect subjects about the ENTIRE 9/11 story. Which includes everything leading up to this event, and every by-product of this event. Now, when you want to address the entirety with your rebuttle, that is when you will gain interest.

Since you have brought it up, what are the 3 dozen suspect subjects and please supply in your own words, at least one widely accepted FACT for each one to prove that they were an "inside job". Conjecture is one thing, proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt in a court of law is another. For now, I will settle for one indisputable fact for each of the suspect subjects you think exist.

Back to the topic at hand. If it were ever proven, in a court of law, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was Government involement, the systems our founding fathers put in place will show their worth.

[edit on 7-8-2006 by pavil]

I would certainly do that, but tell me first if you've seen "Loose Change" because that stacks up all the evidence against. And it isn't a Michela Moore movie. It is pretty hard to refute, so try it. AAC

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I just believe you are unable to conceive of such an atrocity. ...[Y]ou have seen beautiful America in your years. I am extremely family with our history, it's just that things have changed, and not for the better. AAC

So, you're suggesting that I"m deaf, blind, and demented? Do the years I've lived and the social changes that I've seen in my lifetime make my observations less accurate? Does the fact that I watched the events of 9/11 unfold on television in real time or the fact that I have been to war, seen massive death and destruction first hand and suffered severe wounds diminish my ability to conceive of or comprehend the enormity of the atrocities of that day?


[edit on 2006/8/7 by GradyPhilpott]

I think that at the threat of revolution, the government which is most likely already gathering intel. on potential threats would start rounding them up. Then they would fabricate another terrorist attack (a far more gruesome one) to put fear back into the people. The thing is, the government would mostly likely know that if they did in fact do this that it would get out.... maybe certain people in the government started a revolution on purpose.

"What The War On Terror Is Really About"...

Sorry, don't mean to hijack no thread - but that video has got to be the most speculative I've seen in ages. Makes Fox, and CNN (and Alex Jones for that matter...) seem deadpan objective. Why was it posted on this thread in the first place? It begs the question

Back to topic:
What will happen?
1. It will never be proven conclusively.
2. Even with strong "evidence" - nothing will happen
3. Life will go on it's merry way

...there are numerous examples of this throughout history

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
That 50% is the red states. The sheeple that won't question the administration. All they care about is NO ABORTION and NO GAY MARRIAGES! That's all they vote on. AAC

I wouldn't say that, my IQ is over 130 and I don't beleive in gay marriage or abortion, and I'm not a republican, And I definately question the administration.

I believe there are allot of questions that not only the situations of 911 bring up. The government's treatment of and reaction to the Sept 11 events at least in my eyes are more than adequate reason to question the validity of our government.

I have heard people say the reason why so much footage was classified was because it would upset people close to the event. Are we forgetting that this was supposed to be an attack on all the American people and our way of life. All of us heard this spew from Bush over and over again in the preceding months to years after 911. And yet even though Bush obviously agrees that this attack was on us the American people we do not have the right to fully understand or witness the complete events that have completely uprooted our rites and our last bastions of freedom. Not to mention that all of our futures are being controlled by these events.

I see people talk about 911 and post the minuscule amount of evidence that we are allowed to see as public citizens. However we will never be able to come to a true conclusion unless the American people are not treated as the enemy or outsiders. I know that many of you will say we are treated as the enemy because the terrorist are among us. I am sorry but i question this to a substantial degree. Sense 911 we have not seen any true evidence that we are still undertake from within. Sure we get warnings of raised threat level, however the elevated threat levels are never justified.
If the American people were as said the target and our way of life was the target. We with out a doubt should be privy to any information that pertains to our personal destruction. For those of you that will say the government has to hide things from us. Wait a minute, supposedly this was an out side job, what would the government have to classify from us. If it truly was an out side job none of the 911 events would have any connection to the US government therefore declassification would yield no secretes pertaining to the Us government. The only way declasifaction of the 911 events would threaten the us government in any way would be if they had something to do with it.

Well there you go go crazy and tear it apart.



I have read that the footage of Osama that were released three weeks before voteing on Bush's second term was nothing more than footage of Osama from 1989.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I just believe you are unable to conceive of such an atrocity. ...[Y]ou have seen beautiful America in your years. I am extremely family with our history, it's just that things have changed, and not for the better. AAC

So, you're suggesting that I"m deaf, blind, and demented? Do the years I've lived and the social changes that I've seen in my lifetime make my observations less accurate? Does the fact that I watched the events of 9/11 unfold on television in real time or the fact that I have been to war, seen massive death and destruction first hand and suffered severe wounds diminish my ability to conceive of or comprehend the enormity of the atrocities of that day?


[edit on 2006/8/7 by GradyPhilpott]

No now I'm suggesting you're putting words in my mouth. All what you have described above is so irrelevant to the point that I'm at a loss for words. This is the problem, you refuse to see the obvious. I guess you could say 33% of the nation disagrees with you. And the remainder 67% will be proven wrong in time. AAC

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I just believe you are unable to conceive of such an atrocity. ...[Y]ou have seen beautiful America in your years. I am extremely family with our history, it's just that things have changed, and not for the better. AAC

So, you're suggesting that I"m deaf, blind, and demented? Do the years I've lived and the social changes that I've seen in my lifetime make my observations less accurate? Does the fact that I watched the events of 9/11 unfold on television in real time or the fact that I have been to war, seen massive death and destruction first hand and suffered severe wounds diminish my ability to conceive of or comprehend the enormity of the atrocities of that day?


[edit on 2006/8/7 by GradyPhilpott]

No now I'm suggesting you're putting words in my mouth. All what you have described above is so irrelevant to the point that I'm at a loss for words. This is the problem, you refuse to see the obvious. I guess you could say 33% of the nation disagrees with you. And the remainder 67% will be proven wrong in time. AAC

Well, thank you very much for that clarifcaton.

It's all so very evident to me now.

Originally posted by CrabEyes

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
That 50% is the red states. The sheeple that won't question the administration. All they care about is NO ABORTION and NO GAY MARRIAGES! That's all they vote on. AAC

I wouldn't say that, my IQ is over 130 and I don't beleive in gay marriage or abortion, and I'm not a republican, And I definately question the administration.

Okay, fair enough. But I'm from ohio and all my family is still there. I know this because that is what they say. On a massive scale. AAC

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Well, thank you very much for that clarifcaton.

It's all so very evident to me now.

Ask yourself why it is evident to 33% of 300 million people. 100 million people are gaining momentum. AAC

Oh, I'm sure the United States will go into convulsions and split into five larger, regional states, who will immediately start fighting with each other until the continent is turned into a huge post-Apocalyptic wasteland like in "The Road Warrior," and we'll all wear kind of tan, raggedy clothes befitting our dusty condition, and we'll fight for gas and canned goods with spiky bats and old flare guns. That kind of thing.

Reality? IF such a thing were to happen (and don't hold your breath), there would be widespread scandal, a few indictments, we'd vote the bums out for a couple of terms maybe and then vote them right back in. Hey, that's what happened with Watergate and Iran-Contra.

We got short memories, and don't mind our leaders having a little bit of crook in them.

There would not be a civil war. Whatever names were actually foudn in connection with the job itself would be immediately indicted with terrorism and crimes against humanity. If any of the department heads or even lead administrators were found in connection, they will be immediately impeached and indicted. There will probably be minor civil unrest in the streets, but for the sake of our families and way of life, no more civil war.

I am not sure what would happen to Blair. Many countries may just levy certain traid sanctions against our country, or higher tariffs, as well as demand compensation for their efforts in the war on terror. A public apology would have to be declared to probably every nation on Earth by whoever steps in to take charge, especially the Arab world.

I would assume the lower neighboorhoods would see a rise in crimes against law enforcement and government agents, but that can be absolved by increased undercorver and aerial patrols. The IRS will probably begin cracking down and auditing every single citizen in order to recover revenue for all the money it would owe.

I personally do not believe a civil war will brew. Seriously. Are any one of you guys going to pick-up a gun, march yourself to the Federal courthouse in your city and begin firing upon the employees, most of which are innocent mind you. Or perhaps you will wish to go the the local FBI or Post office and begin attacking more innocent government employees? Or do yall seriously believe you are going to DC and start fighting

There would be no reason for a war. The whole government was not involved. The operation did not include every Top down starting form the President and then ending with your Postman/woman. The ones responsible will be held accountable and lose their careers. The people will punish them. Perhaps they may even recieve the death penalty. No war. Anyone who tries to fight will be declared a terrorist and neutralized.

There is no reason for a war, and there will be none.

I think that by the time it is proven (50 years from now) we will view it the same way we view The attacks on Pearl Harbor, which is with a whatever attidtude. There is a reason we do not declassify info until 50 years later. By then no one cares. Sucks but it is what it is. Great post by the way!