Iranian president: Destroy Israel

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Boycott ARABS

So i take it you dont use any petroleum based products ?

Boycott ignorant hypcrites

Helium3

WHY should someone stand up for Lebanon, or Palestinians for that matter... Lebanon is an independent country, if it's unable or unwilling to defend it's sovrenity then it has failed in what a country should do.

Even Lebanese Army doesn't stand up and fight for Lebanon, so why should anyone else?

World is and evil place, defend your people or die, trust no one, that's the way world goes... sadly

I'm surprised to see so many people here agreeing with Iran's dictator who did call for the destruction of Israel; it just proves to me that President Bush is doing the right thing and has a good perspective on things... I'm glad we have him in office and not some terrorist-supporting lib like the ones I see here.

Originally posted by northwolf
Helium3

WHY should someone stand up for Lebanon, or Palestinians for that matter... Lebanon is an independent country, if it's unable or unwilling to defend it's sovrenity then it has failed in what a country should do.

Well then why have we been propping up Israel all these years for then?

Its not because they are profitable for us, thats for sure! LOL

I honestly don't know why US public sheepishly accepts the fact that Israel is leeching on their money... Specially now that USA doesn't need Israel as an operations base in ME because of Iraq.

EU supports humanitarian activities to both sides.

And before someone shouts that we're selling weapons to Israel; We'd be selling to lebanon too if they had the hard currecy to pay for, it ain't charity, it's business...

Originally posted by laiguana
I'm surprised to see so many people here agreeing with Iran's dictator who did call for the destruction of Israel; it just proves to me that President Bush is doing the right thing

Ever imagined how people would have responded to such a ''threat'' as Iran before Bush took office? Just try to remember. But hey, according to Bush and his indoctrinated followers everyone opposing the US is a labeled a terrorist. No wonder Bush is to blame himself so many people stopped to buy that crap.

Originally posted by northwolf
Helium3

WHY should someone stand up for Lebanon

Personally, I'd say put all those War on Terror fanatics in there. France shouldn't go. It should be the US together with the UK and Israel (with all due respect to its soldiers).

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So You want the fighting to go on then?
That's what will happen if US troops go to Lebanon... My opinion is: Let them fight, once and for all... no one is right in Middle east, no one has moral high ground.

Originally posted by northwolf
So You want the fighting to go on then?
That's what will happen if US troops go to Lebanon... My opinion is: Let them fight, once and for all... no one is right in Middle east, no one has moral high ground.

I don't want the fighting to continue at all. However Israel claimed they would deal with Hezbollah within days, then it became two weeks, then another two more weeks, and now they'll continue till an intervention force arrives. An intervention force to do what? To get killed? If more innocent people so necessarily have to die, then let it be those who support Israel and the War on Terror fanatics, not those who don't.


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Originally posted by princeofpeace
President Arnmnanrajhad has called repeatedly for the destruction of Israel...nothing new here. Just more of his retoric. Its an Arab thing obviously.



Boycott ARABS

Not a bright bunny, are you? The Iranians aren't Arabs and, as stated, I would like to see you get by without any oil-based products...

Correct me if i am wrong but didn't Israel alert the Lebanese people to vacate evacuate the area days and days before if not week before bombings started, dropping leaflets, phoning them, TV, shesh if the people are that stupid to ignore all that then they brought it on themselves if you ask me or they are Hizzo supporters and actively help them... Why people moan about all this i don't know they had loads of time to evacuate or move away to some where less of a target, do you all support Hizzo who want us all dead?? what Israel is doing is good if you ask me, its taken alot of time for this to build up to this point now its the no return you piss us off point they brought it on themselves by taking hostages now reap the lessons of how not to piss the enemy off no more cause you took it too far this time now pay days here. Oh yer as someone else said the Lebanese army aint doing much to help those people or their country are they either whichmust be saying something.

Also dont forget these are terrorists they are dealing with, and links to Iran and Syria terror support countrys Israel should stomp the hell out of all them once and for all, its going to happen sooner rather than latter now i think WAR with Iran and Syria if they want some too will happen we need too sort them out we know that our enemy know it everyone virtualy knows it but no ones saying it out loud.

Stumason
The entire world doesn't rely on ME oil, we get ours from Russia
I don't know if it's a good thing, but theoretically you could boycot arab oil...

I won't, busines is busines, ethics aside..

Originally posted by pstiffy
He called for the elimination of the Zionist regime in Israel, not the destruction of Israel or its people.

In the twisted mind of the Islamic world the Zionist regime means the Jewish state. The problem Muslims have with Zionists is not that they are Zionists it is that they are a Jewish state on what they perceive as Islamic lands. It is a matter of primitive and greedy pride.

Hey Pieman, I have a question for you as you seem to be informed about middle east politics and policy.....


The US is taking (although not publicly announced) the exact same foreign policy towards Israel that Lebanon has taken for years in regards to Hezbollah. Hands off, with unspoken material support. Could I get your response about this?

Tks,
G.Houtchens
armchair coach
amateur historian

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Originally posted by laiguana
I'm surprised to see so many people here agreeing with Iran's dictator

Iran is not exactly a dictotatorial place, they have as much as you if they can afort it, they wach cnn just like you, they got sporting competitions like snowboarding , moto cross and alot more, they go to clubs, they have all the stuff you got there, they have fun, it's not like you imagine, they can do about anything they want to.
They even got hookers
They can listen to what ever music they want, they can adopt any culture they want, they can mostly do what ever they want.
But then again how could you know that , when you dont travel, when you stay locked up like in a cocon and have no idea how the rest of the world is.
To you the world resumes to United States.
You should be more worried about that patriot act.
In fact there are alot of countrys with people that has more freedom than you curently have there.



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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is denying the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews while he's planning the next one. He wants to nuke most of israel for religious reasons.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is denying the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews

Since when is it a crime to iterpret on history?
Hmm freedom of speach, if some one decides to denny some historical facts right or wrong he or she should be able to do it.
Just for saying "I belive it hapend diferent" is a crime?
This is a serios violation and obstruction of freedom of speach.
In fact this is why not all the countrys adopted the law, there are democratic countries that did not accept this law, because it's crap, it violates the right to an opinion.



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Originally posted by northwolf
Stumason
The entire world doesn't rely on ME oil, we get ours from Russia

I don't know if it's a good thing, but theoretically you could boycot arab oil...

I won't, busines is busines, ethics aside..

Arrgh, that be true. A boycott of Arab goods would probably have an impact on the overall price of oil, but then, no-one is going to do that.

Besides, Iran still isn't Arab.

Originally posted by northwolf
WHY should someone stand up for Lebanon, or Palestinians for that matter... Lebanon is an independent country, if it's unable or unwilling to defend it's sovrenity then it has failed in what a country should do.

Lebanon is not an independent country and hasn't been for decades. It is a country ocupied by Syria and this issue should have been addressed when it happened. It might not currently be in this situation now if Lebanon had been defended instead of letting Syria over run it. But nobody cared. If any country should be restored it's Lebenon - back to the true people of Lebenon who are predominently Christian, not Muslims at all (everyone seems to have forgotten that too)

Originally posted by Houtchens
The US is taking (although not publicly announced) the exact same foreign policy towards Israel that Lebanon has taken for years in regards to Hezbollah. Hands off, with unspoken material support. Could I get your response about this?

Not publicly announced? What do you mean by that? So you mean only the Palestinians and the people suffering at the hands of Israel knew that we were supporting Israel with technology, funding and weaponry? They have been shouting about it for decades that we enable them to build apartheid walls, knock down houses, patrol tanks through their streets. Its rather obvious a country with hardly any resources such as oil would have the financial means to carry out such a long agression without having someone funding it.


One big difference being, that Hizbollah is part of Lebanon and took part in rebuilding Lebanon and helping their people get back on their feet, contributing to the economy as well as protecting their political rights in a then Christian controlled government

What has Israel contributed to Americas economy? While we are cutting back on Veterans benefits, Social Security Benefits, Education and even Sesame Street, the Israelis are getting bombs rushed to them courtesy of Uncle Sam.

Our boys and girls dying , getting injured and even becoming psychologically damaged mostly in part from our allies inaccurate intel in Iraq.

So you tell me. Had we had better relations with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and even Iraq rather then supporting one country that places us in a bad light with these countries, had we played the fair and balanced superpower that we should be, how would things be different for us? Would there be a hizbollah? Would we have high oil prices? If we pursued Israel in regards to her Nuke program, rather then taking a blind eye, would we be worrying about Iraq's nuclear ambitions right now? Would there have been an Al-queda? Would converting Iraq from under Saddam Husseins rule have been so costly and bloody if we had Iran and Syria with us rather then against us? We could have had so much more had we just been fair and had a little more compassion towards these people that have been pushed from their lands , thrown behind walls, rolled over with bulldozers and cut-off from family members and their livelihoods.


If you are a historian, Im sure you know quite a bit. More then likely a different view then mine. Im sure there is a reason for your post directed towards me and I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Originally posted by Relentless
back to the true people of Lebenon who are predominently Christian, not Muslims at all (everyone seems to have forgotten that too)

This is what got them killing each other in the first place. If they are going to be a true democracy how can you imply that the government must be of one single religion? Do you not see how Israel is? An ideal Lebanon would be one where everyone is represented fairly and not held from a Political post just because of their religious beliefs. If you are going to believe that its going to be Christian majority and that things should go back to how it was back in the 70's when Slaiman Franjieh was president then you might as well just knock on the next door neighbors door and ask him to push the button. If he hasn't already taken over 1/2 the country that is.