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Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Secondly, they have NOt SHOW THE EVIDENCE" (Re: Plaintiffs exhibit A, etc...) They just make some cad drawings and that's it.
Where is the PROOF? Where is the HARD EVIDENCE? Photos, Videos, samples??? Why not present these items with your "case" as would be normal in any investigation or trial?
Vushta... you are overpaid.
Secondly, they have NOt SHOW THE EVIDENCE" (Re: Plaintiffs exhibit A, etc...) They just make some cad drawings and that's it.
Why not present these items with your "case" as would be normal in any investigation or trial
Originally posted by LeftBehind
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Originally posted by Vushta
The data that that applied to the crime was evaluated and from this some constituted 'evidence'.
Originally posted by Vushta
Didn't show the evidence to who? I don't get what you mean.
Originally posted by Vushta
"They just made some cad drawings and thats it"
Come on.
Originally posted by Vushta
They did.
Whats your 'proof' that they didn't?
Originally posted by Vushta
Because they didn't show persent it to you?......"Hey wait a minute..did anyone send this to Slapnuts?...we can't make our final evaluation until Slapnuts see it"
Originally posted by LeftBehind
And please, let's stop with the nonsense about no images of WTC 7. They have been shown over and over, Bsbray even has a youtube link.
Originally posted by Vushta
The burden of proof is on the CTers or whoever because an investigation was done. the evidence evaluated and conclusions drawn. The investigators made their case. Their burden of proof was met.
c'mon vushta, everyone ELSE has at LEAST 1 link to SOME KIND of evidence
you cry foul, BUT, produce absolutely NOTHING
so far i have been shown MUCH MUCH MORE PROOF
the ONLY PROOF TO SAY TERRORISTS did it is STRICTLY HEARSAY
and a VERY BLURRY pentagon cam video that is MISSING FRAMES.
YOU are using peoples words, and what your government told you.
and the professional opinions of true professionals
how can a building, GIVE OUT at the BOTTOM,
ESPECIALLY by getting blown apart close to the TOP???
ESPECIALLY WHEN years ago, a truck bomb , blew out a few basement floors
answer me that, and i will believe there were NO EXPLOSIVES USED TO HELP IT FALL
the empire state building took a hit, yes it was a smaller plane,,
Originally posted by Vushta
Start here.
wtc.nist.gov...
Claim an inaccuracy.
Site the page that contains the inaccuracy.
State why you believe it is inaccurate.
Provide reasons for your claim of inaccuracy.
Present some evidence in support of your claim.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by Vushta
Start here.
wtc.nist.gov...
Claim an inaccuracy.
Site the page that contains the inaccuracy.
State why you believe it is inaccurate.
Provide reasons for your claim of inaccuracy.
Present some evidence in support of your claim.
Their drawing of a typical floor-framing plan is not to scale and does not have a note about not being to scale.
Page 90 of 280 in the pdf....page 28 of the report.
I have drawn a comparison CAD drawing using figures 2-12 and 2-11 as a guideline for dimensions of columns and placement.
Reasons why I feel they misportrayed this. When looking at their drawing, it looks as if the core columns are very big compared to the trusses. Without looking further into it, it gives the impression that the trusses were extremely very weak compared with the massive columns. When scaled to the right scaling, the trusses appear bigger than what NIST portrays them as. Remember that NIST's main cause of collapse are these weak trusses failing. Which by portraying them in the way they do gives the impression that they really were.
Evidence: I don't have time at the moment to load pictures but if you don't believe me do a search or something...I've posted them here before.
Here's a thread I started on this topic.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
How's that Vushta?
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Vushta... yet again providing NOTHING of VALUE to the debate.
Nice link to the NIST report that has many, MANY threads regarding it's contents.
Why dont YOU GO TO THOSE THREADS AND SUPPORT the NIST's position instead of trying to constantly "debunk".
The reasons you will not do this:
1. You have not read it.
and
2. It is undefendable.
Way to threadjack this by the way... You are truly a great debater.
Originally posted by yeah right
blaine,,,thats the whole problem
Originally posted by bsbray11
WTC5 and 6 were real infernos just behind WTC7, and they were putting out immense amounts of smoke. I can post images for you.
WTC7, no such fires, and yet a mass of smoke around it. I wonder where most all of it came from .
Originally posted by Slapnuts
not just a cloud of smoke in front of the building. Surely, given the prevailing winds that day and the size of the famed "crater" you can do better than that crapy gif that shows NO DAMAGE... only smoke.
Originally posted by Vushta
Listen...for the sake of the various discussions people are involved in, you should try and transend this 'thing' you have about me. It deflects threads and changes the subject of posts and thats not what the forum is about.
Originally posted by Vushta
Listen...for the sake of the various discussions people are involved in, you should try and transend this 'thing' you have about me. It deflects threads and changes the subject of posts and thats not what the forum is about.