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Originally posted by zappafan1
By the way..... you can just right-click on the "Post Reply" button, and choose "open in a new window". Then you can copy/paste the relevant info, close the original window, then hit the ost Reply" button.
If you overpay on your taxes, the money refunded to you is 'your' money.
I used your quote from the Constitution as to what the Legislature can do pertaining to owning/buying land
Originally posted by zappafan1
As to the land I mentioned, here is a partial list. These are World Heritage Sites, run by the BLM, but controlled by UNESCO. I'll have to get the total acreage tomorrow.
HA HA HA HA HA..... I supply figures as they pertain to the facts I submit.
the amendment (IRS) was never properly ratified or responded to in the correct manner by the states, and in some cases replies were not received within the time alotted.
The sixteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Sixty-first Congress on the 12th of July, 1909, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 25th of February, 1913, to have been ratified by 36 of the 48 States. The dates of ratification were: Alabama, August 10, 1909; Kentucky, February 8, 1910; South Carolina, February 19, 1910; Illinois, March 1, 1910; Mississippi, March 7, 1910; Oklahoma, March 10, 1910; Maryland, April 8, 1910; Georgia, August 3, 1910; Texas, August 16, 1910; Ohio, January 19, 1911; Idaho, January 20, 1911; Oregon, January 23, 1911; Washington, January 26, 1911; Montana, January 30, 1911; Indiana, January 30, 1911; California, January 31, 1911; Nevada, January 31, 1911; South Dakota, February 3, 1911; Nebraska, February 9, 1911; North Carolina, February 11, 1911; Colorado, February 15, 1911; North Dakota, February 17, 1911; Kansas, February 18, 1911; Michigan, February 23, 1911; Iowa, February 24, 1911; Missouri, March 16, 1911; Maine, March 31, 1911; Tennessee, April 7, 1911; Arkansas, April 22, 1911 (after having rejected it earlier); Wisconsin, May 26, 1911; New York, July 12, 1911; Arizona, April 6, 1912; Minnesota, June 11, 1912; Louisiana, June 28, 1912; West Virginia, January 31, 1913; New Mexico, February 3, 1913.
Ratification was completed on February 3, 1913.
"....since World War II, the economy has consistently done BETTER, not worse, when taxes were higher.
The figures provided show you to be wrong [about periods of higher taxes being also periods of higher economic growth]
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I just tried to clarify a point or two, including the fact that, despite Marxist predictions to the contrary, capitalism thrives and offers opportunities to those who are willing to pursue their dreams
Originally posted by The Vagabond
If the government wasn't going to impose taxes or intervene against strikes that hurt the country or have vagrancy laws and land ownership which prevent people from choosing to withdraw from the economy and go their own way, then at least on a strictly philosophical level I'd say lassiez faire is acceptable because the people can go another way if they don't like what the economic system offers them. But since the order of our society all but compells us to live within the system, the government then assumes the duty to protect our liberty to some certain degree since they have placed us here and bound us from certain means of resistance.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I just tried to clarify a point or two, including the fact that, despite Marxist predictions to the contrary, capitalism thrives and offers opportunities to those who are willing to pursue their dreams
Originally posted by Busymind
The current minumum wage, combined with federal, state and local taxation; makes it difficult for small businesses to prosper.
by Two Steps Forward:
But it's hard to do this (have one's own business). And I would say that it's made deliberately hard...."
If the government wanted to encourage small business success, then what it could is to shift the tax burden away from small business and onto big business.
Is the system we have still capitalism? Or is it some kind of capitalist/socialist hybrid?
Originally posted by Two Steps Forward
For most taxpayers, the TOTAL taxes paid, including BOTH income and Social Security Taxes, increased under the Reagan administration.
Originally posted by zappafan1
Big business, and/or "The Rich" already pay the majority of the taxes, although in a way they don't. The taxes, and the cost of compliance with the tax codes (all 9 million words of them) are folded into the cost of goods and services.
Have you done any research into the "Fair Tax"?
No federal taxes for business; no federal deductions from your paycheck; no taxes on "used" items, etc.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
Ok, so lets see here, from what I am hearing, you believe that the workers of these small businesses should make more so that their way of life is equal to that of the owner of the business. Never mind that the business owner worked his/her tail end off. Never mind that the owner/s worked their jobs, overtime, or second jobs AND went to school to get their degrees needed to do what they do. Never mind the sacrifices they made and chances they took so they could make their dreams a reality and start their own business. The workers who didnt, deserve more? The owners should make less, and scrape by so that the workers can share a similar lifestyle? GET real folks. If you dont like where you are at, DO something about it. Its a free country, if you want more money, you can have it. You just have to earn it.
Originally posted by dawnstar
no, what I am saying that if a company needs a living breething person to work 40 or more hours a day doing a job, then well, they should pay a wage that keeps them living and breething!!
by Dawnstar:
But, if one of his employees is relying on our tax money in order to survive, then I have a gripe!!! and it's not with the poor person workiing his tailend off but just not making (it) because the wages are so low they couldn't keep a monkey alive and taken care of!!!
Originally posted by dawnstar
I'm a generation after than one.....I remember cokes costing 5 cents a bottle, and order of french fries, good one, made fresh from real potatoes, 25 cents. a loaf of bread, I think was around 10 cents. a buck would buy you a bag of candy that would last for days!!! $10 dollars bought more back then.