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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by semperfortis
And BH, Yes to me and most everyone I know, there is a BIG difference.
And that's what I'm asking... What is the difference? It's a real question, but the only answer I'm getting is "There's a big difference". Well, what is it?
I know you think there's a difference. All I'm asking is to explain that difference to me.
Pak kids imbibe lessons on jihad
NEW DELHI: It is not just in seminaries, jihad and shahadat (martyrdom) are keywords in the curriculum of primary schools in Pakistan and the Education Ministry endorses the importance of these words, a media report said.
"The official Curriculum Document, Primary Education, Class I-V specifically prescribes 'simple stories to urge jihad '. Under Activity 4, the specific prescription for three and eight-year-old Pakistanis is: said in an article.
The article, entitled 'An Endangered Species: Who is going to save the moderate Pakistanis', says the National Curriculum of the Ministry for social studies for Classes I-V "formally endorses the following 'learning outcome': Recognise the importance of jihad in every sphere of life."
Under the heading 'Evaluation', "the officially certified direction to teachers and textbook writers is: 'to judge their spirits while making speeches on jihad, Muslim history and culture," while the 'affective objective' is 'Concepts of Ideology of Pakistan, Muslim Ummah and Jihad'.
Quoting Pakistan's Economic Survey 2003-04, the weekly said there were 17.4 million children who were attending primary schools, while about three million study in the 20,000 madrassas which churn out 40,000 graduates each year.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
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You must quake in your boots each time a muslim school kid walks by you.
"IN THE BELIEF"...wow.
People like you are taking the words FREE and The BRAVE out of the meaning of America.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And that's what I'm asking... What is the difference? It's a real question, but the only answer I'm getting is "There's a big difference". Well, what is it?
I know you think there's a difference. All I'm asking is to explain that difference to me.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
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People like you are taking the words FREE and The BRAVE out of the meaning of America.
Originally posted by semperfortis
So that is the difference to me. At present they are the enemy, we kill the enemy, they should be trying to kill us, not sending their children out to kill their own country men and women. Again, like it, not like it, doesn't really matter, it is what it is.
So there is a difference to me.
Semper
Originally posted by Muaddib
you have not provided proof to back your own argument that you apparently believe that kids in the 6th grade in normal U.S. schools are being taught that it is good to die for one's country....
Sybil Arum's eighth-grade granddaughter came home this week worried that she was on the verge of being drafted by the military and sent off to war.
The reason for her fear was the Department of Education's annual privacy notice, which says contact information for secondary students as young as sixth-graders may be released to military recruiters unless the student, parent or legal guardian requests otherwise.
What began as an attempt to educate middle-school students about the military has set off a string of complaints from parents and teachers that new learning materials designed by a New Hampshire publisher for 9- to 14-year-olds amount to little more than an early recruiting pitch for the Army.
Even students in the sixth grade are being trained to join the military, to be little soldiers. In high school you see it more; JROTC has its own buildings and its own facilities in our school district. At Roosevelt High School it has an underground shooting range.
At the beginning of every year, since our schools are so over-crowded, there’s not enough room to have everyone enroll in P.E. So the JROTC recruiters go into the P.E. classrooms and they outreach to everyone, saying, “Instead of doing P.E. you could join JROTC and it’ll be honorable, it’ll be considered as an extra activity, and it looks good on college applications.” They do this massive recruitment. Students don’t see other clubs going around, saying, “join this club to prepare for college.” All they see is JROTC.
Originally posted by semperfortis
Your stance, your passion for peace is to be admired. There are however only small pockets in this world where that sentiment may be lived out. Unfortunately ours is not such a place.
Originally posted by grover
There is no arguing with Muaddib BH...
Originally posted by The PieMaN
Ok so a people not even indigenous to the Mideast you can relate to? Good luck in your endeavour to understand the Middle Eastern mindset from the minds of Europeans.
I don't think I could have made it any plainer
Man walks into crowd with bomb strapped to body
Man walks into plane and straps plane to body with 100x the explosives and flies over crowd.
Difference?
Originally posted by Grover
One last thing....democracy cannot be imposed by force of arms, nor can cultural change.
Originally posted by semperfortis
Come on BH!!!!
I only say "Peacenik" when I am emotional. I don't mean any harm.
Semper
Originally posted by iqonx
Originally posted by Techsnow
Well there we have it. A million + people in the world that pray to a meteorite and try to destroy every religion that isn't theirs. Do you really want this religion to take over the world? I sure would like to see them deal with some ET infidels.
Once again Muslims do not pray to a meteorite or to mecca.
But pray towards Mecca which is the main mosque in the world.
Please stop spreading lies.