Was the T-2 Shot Down by the U.S. Missile Defense?

Originally posted by Slaine01
Who's to say that the missle wasn't destroyed from space?
Reagans Star Wars technology must have gone somewhere!!!
Do you really think that all that technology just disappeared?
I mean don't you think it's funny that the only missle to 'Explode" was the only missle that could reach U.S. targets?

[edit on 5-7-2006 by Slaine01]

The technology was DESIGNED, it never launched. And that tech was designed to kill missiles IN ORBIT, as they passed by the sattelites on the way to the target.

Was the T-2 Shot Down by the U.S. Missile Defense? You wish. As many have pointed out, interception within 40 seconds is pretty much impossible and that laser doesn't have the range. It's not like North Korean missiles haven't failed like that before. The US would also be the first to boast if they shot it down.

Originally posted by Simon666
Was the T-2 Shot Down by the U.S. Missile Defense? You wish. As many have pointed out, interception within 40 seconds is pretty much impossible and that laser doesn't have the range. It's not like North Korean missiles haven't failed like that before. The US would also be the first to boast if they shot it down.

Well said, evil Simon-dude. That's Deny'n Ignorance.

Originally posted by Simon666
Was the T-2 Shot Down by the U.S. Missile Defense? You wish. As many have pointed out, interception within 40 seconds is pretty much impossible and that laser doesn't have the range. It's not like North Korean missiles haven't failed like that before. The US would also be the first to boast if they shot it down.

Yeah i agree aswell. Spot on Simon

It's quite possible that during the 2 - 3 weeks the missile was stationary and fueled, that it was secretly sabotaged in the middle of the night. There are 2 ways that I can think of first hand that can disable a missile from more than 1000 feet away.

Originally posted by Islamic_Guy

Originally posted by Ivanova

Originally posted by donk_316

Seriously, North Koreas "missles" are equal to the USAs version from 50 years ago. Are you really that shocked when it falls apart 40 seconds after it launches?

All this fuss and over 50 year old technology ?

tsk ... tsk...

But if the T-2 was shot down... by someone else....
using unknown technology... who would that shock

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What gives you this opinion that these missles are the equivelant of U.S 50's tech?

Do you some sort of proof for this assertion, or is this merely bluster?

Actually a hit on the missle by the Airborne Laser Aircraft would probably look like a failure. I am betting the ABL took this out. Will they unclassify that? I doubt it.

Im thinking the Vagabonds second answer was highly likely. China wouldnt let their little puppet go on a rampage.

I am wondering though, a question to all you millitary info wizards, is it possable that N.K. intentionally made it go off? via remote or whatever? The reason I ask is that i had heard a lot about the EMP bomb I believe it's called. Where they strap a nuke onto a missile and detonate it in the air to knock out electronics. I do not know much about millitary "stuff" obviously. Could it have been something like that? I know they had stated that this T2 was capable of carring a nuke even though it would have to be a small one, if it wanted to reach the U.S.

just wondering.

I love that people spend their days railing about conspiracies in the government, but when the opportunity for an actual demonstration of their power arises (intercepting the korean missle with some sort of until-now unknown missle defense technology) people say things like "no way, the US can't do that, they'd be boasting about it! It's not technologically possible!!!" blah blah blah, what happened to all that reverse engineered alien technology the US is suppose to have? Or the trillions in militiary spending? Or the technology from Atlantis? Or whatever...some of you always just assume the negative about the United States and it's blinding your judgement...

It wasnt a SM3, it wasn't the ABL, it wasnt shot down by the US sadly I am afraid.

The fuels used in the T2 are highly corrosive, it sat on the pad WAY to long. It was a mechanical failure, of this I am sure at this point.

I spent time arguing that the SM3 could get it, which I still think it could, but 40 seconds is way to fast imho. The AEGIS could track and launch but it would have been much longer than 1 minute to at least hit the target.


Aliens?


SDI? Nope.



High quality North Korean Missile technology? Yep!




One thing also, just think the Iranians are buying this crap!

I dont know exactly but i do know for shure that we had 3 aegis equiped destroyers in the area, that were not there four days before, the destroyers are equiped with extremly advanced missile defence systems.

I think the clues point to yes. The other two missiles worked properly, wat other reason would there have been for this missile to go down, shure there could be problems, but it just happens that the taepo-dong 2 that went down malfunctioned convieniently at the maximum range of the belt of destroyers patroling that area.

Aegis is an exo-atmospheric hit-to-kill vehicle. In other words, if Aegis were used, it would have lasted a lot longer than 40 seconds.

ABL doesn't have the range necessary.

Everything points to either 1) sabotage or 2) a good old-fashioned failure.

Why did the one fail and not the others?

Well the No-dong and Ro-dong missiles are not the big worry and have been tested already, its the Taepodong-2 that is the big worry..

North Korea’s missile program is based on Scud technology provided by the former Soviet Union or Egypt, according to American and South Korean officials. North Korea started its Rodong-1 missile project in the late 1980s and test-fired the missile for the first time in 1993.
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SM3 Picture



A missile is launched from the USS Shiloh during a ballistic missile flight test in the Pacific Ocean. In this case, the test was successful. The missile intercepted a threat target launched from a naval facility in Hawaii.




The 1998 Taepodong flight was successful for the first two stages. The last stage failed.
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Should Russia be worried also? Look at where they landed...

Originally posted by White Chapel
I love that people spend their days railing about conspiracies in the government, but when the opportunity for an actual demonstration of their power arises (intercepting the korean missle with some sort of until-now unknown missle defense technology) people say things like "no way, the US can't do that, they'd be boasting about it! It's not technologically possible!!!" blah blah blah, what happened to all that reverse engineered alien technology the US is suppose to have? Or the trillions in militiary spending? Or the technology from Atlantis? Or whatever...some of you always just assume the negative about the United States and it's blinding your judgement...

i was gonna say the same sort of thing. we must have so much technology that hasn't been released to the public that shooting a obsolete missle down in 30-40 seconds is a cake walk. some people seem dead set that we only have missle defenses that are public knowledge. if that one sts nasa video is authentic, we have some very advanced stuff.

i love all the flaming of this test failure i really do.


please find all the video`s of the repeat failures of US systems on launch , either on the tower , or a few moments after launch of EVERY system that has ever been used!

heck theres a test of a nuke armed THOR that failed on the tower at launch +2 - the site then had to be buried as it was radioactive!

@Harlequin,

Although you are correct - the times have changed the scenario. With North Korea just days ago threatening 'Nuclear War' with the USA having a failed missile launch makes them appear incompetant and unable to wage the war they promised. This is a good thing for the USA.

Kim Jung Il clearly has no idea what he is dealing with. The political uproar would be much, much larger if the unarmed missile hit the North American Continent. With the USA clearly having the ability to wipe NK off the map within 45 minutes I wouldn't be firing tests unannounced towards the USA.

Originally posted by Harlequin
i love all the flaming of this test failure i really do.


please find all the video`s of the repeat failures of US systems on launch , either on the tower , or a few moments after launch of EVERY system that has ever been used!

heck theres a test of a nuke armed THOR that failed on the tower at launch +2 - the site then had to be buried as it was radioactive!

The only reason there is video is because they've allowed you to see it. The US doesn't do high steps through the village square like other countries do, if we have something we generally don't brag about it until WAYYY after the fact.

Originally posted by White Chapel
I love that people spend their days railing about conspiracies in the government, but when the opportunity for an actual demonstration of their power arises (intercepting the korean missle with some sort of until-now unknown missle defense technology) people say things like "no way, the US can't do that, they'd be boasting about it! It's not technologically possible!!!" blah blah blah, what happened to all that reverse engineered alien technology the US is suppose to have? Or the trillions in militiary spending? Or the technology from Atlantis? Or whatever...some of you always just assume the negative about the United States and it's blinding your judgement...

Amen! The US can secretly destroy the WTC, as well as engineer every nefarious project in the world, but can't have the ABL up and running in a configuration outside of the known parameters. When the B2 and F117 were first produced I don't think there was much bragging. It remained quite black for a long time. Later there were a lot of bombs taking out air defense in Iraq. The actions did the talking.

Ivanova had a good point earlier. Why not Russian technology? They were much farther ahead in directed energy weapons than we were in the Cold War.

Originally posted by Harlequin
i love all the flaming of this test failure i really do.

Tell me about it, so do I. Now, North Korean missile technology is obviously not as advanced as they would have us believe, as such failures are to be expected, that however in no way restricts us from pointing them out and to a certain extent enjoying ourselves when they occur. You see a problem with that?

Originally posted by LAES YVAN
It's quite possible that during the 2 - 3 weeks the missile was stationary and fueled, that it was secretly sabotaged in the middle of the night. There are 2 ways that I can think of first hand that can disable a missile from more than 1000 feet away.

Also very plausible. Remember a couple of years ago when the train blew up in NK and took a nice piece of real estate with it? Nobody was sure what was on it, but NK oficials were sifting through the wreckage in NBC gear. I wondered if it were two birds with one stone at the time. Take out Kim Jong-il as well as missle parts on the other train? Oh well, I'll never know for sure. But it bears keeping in mind.

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Originally posted by WestPoint23

Tell me about it, so do I. Now, North Korean missile technology is obviously not as advanced as they would have us believe, as such failures are to be expected, that however in no way restricts us from pointing them out and to a certain extent enjoying ourselves when they occur. You see a problem with that?

I think we are supposed to shake our heads sadly because without equally distributed WMDs the US is just a bully. I feel so soooo dirty.