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Originally posted by fm258
Yet the official version of 9/11 is ALSO a 'Conspiracy Theory' and if you want to roll your eyes at THAT one, go ahead, because its the most IMPLAUSIBLE and OUTRAGEOUS theory of them ALL.
Originally posted by zenlover28
Originally posted by fm258
Yet the official version of 9/11 is ALSO a 'Conspiracy Theory' and if you want to roll your eyes at THAT one, go ahead, because its the most IMPLAUSIBLE and OUTRAGEOUS theory of them ALL.
It is? How so? Please clarify yourself here.
Originally posted by Masisoar- The Muslims accused of the terrorist attacks, who had lacked sufficient flight training experience had nailed World Trade Center 1, World Trade Center 2 and the Pentagon in a 1 round shot. They didn't miss and turn around. They nailed each one where they wanted to. Not to mention how difficult that is traveling at the high speeds they were accused of going at.
Originally posted by Masisoar- They took over planes with box cutters, with the plane's passengers submitting to them, minus flight 93, who knows what really happened..
Originally posted by Masisoar- World Trade Center 1 and World Trade Center 2 fell perfectly symmetrical and in their footsteps despite different damage factors.
Originally posted by Masisoar- World Trade Center 7 fell symmetrical and was accused of being brought down by a fuel fired by a ruptured deisel fuel tank.
Originally posted by Masisoar- The collapses of the World Trade Centers mimicked the effects of a controlled demolition.
Originally posted by Masisoar- There was a brief military stand down in the time frame of the aircraft being hijacked and flying them into the buildings..
Originally posted by Masisoar- The fires inside the World Trade Centers lacked the efficiency to burn hot enough to cause the flowing molten metal seen oozing from the World Trade Centers...
Originally posted by Masisoar- The fires inside the World Trade Centers lacked the efficiency to stay as hot as they did for as long as they did, even after rain and the huge amounts of water being dumped onto the debris.
Originally posted by Masisoar-- The tapes that caught the impact of the Pentagon attack were confiscated and nothing vital in respect to video footage has given us an accurate portroyal of what his the building.
Originally posted by Masisoar- The World Trade Center 1 and 2 fires weren't efficient enough to bring each other down in the 2 hour time frame from the impact to collapse.
Originally posted by Masisoar- The building seemed to of met virtually free-fall fall times, even as the building's mass was being dissipated and pulverized on the way down, with allieviation of mass, less force, but still continuously and effectively brought down the rest of each other.
Originally posted by vor75
That would be singular - only WTC 2. A molten material flows for a brief time from the same corner where flight 175 "piled up". Molten aluminum is the most logical explanation ... better to go with molten steel.
Originally posted by GriffAt what temperature does molten aluminum glow orange in broad daylight? The most logical explaination would be that the molten aluminum would have flowed out of the corner in a silvery color. Unless it was kept in the spot to be heated to over 1300 F then decided to flow out of the corner. I say over 1300 F because at that temperature aluminum will glow orange in dull lighting. I ask again at what tempaerature does aluminum glow orange in broad daylight?
Originally posted by vor75
You are correct that 1300 degrees F is sufficient for molten aluminum to be iridescent. 1300 is well within the temperature ranges suggested by NIST for these fires (maximum ~1800 is hot spots).
You also suggest that the Al should be silver .... or you think I am implying the Al "waited" to be iridescent before pouring from the tower.
Consider a couple of possibilities:
How long was the molten material pooling and 'glowing' before it emerges?
Was the glowing molten material slowly eating it's way toward an opening for some time (through piled up debris)?
The material emerges a few moments before the collapse of WTC-2 ... does some local, precursory structural instability in WTC 2 (bowing, leaning, sagging) suddenly allow a pool of glowing molten material to pour from the opening?
Originally posted by GriffSteel glows orange in those ranges also. Do you see any steel glowing orange in or around that area or anywhere else in the building?
Originally posted by vor75
a) How do you know they struck where they "wanted to"?
b) Hanjour (flight 77) missed and turned around.
Originally posted by vor75
Based on the history of civilian airliner hijackings (pre-9/11), what reason would the passengers have to risk their lives and revolt ... when history suggests the best thing is to sit and keep quiet? There is not one single pre-flight93 instance of passengers revolting against hijackers.
Originally posted by vor75
Into their footprints - as in, no other buildings were destoyed, heavily damaged, or affected by the collapses?
Originally posted by vor75
The damaged side (that was facing twin-towers) appears to give way first. You stand so accused, building 7. What say you?
Originally posted by vor75
Based on all the other instances of skyscrapers collapsing in history - how is it supposed to look when a skyscraper collapses? No dust? No air movement?
Originally posted by vor75
Jets were scrambled, they didn't make it. No stand down.
Originally posted by vor75
That would be singular - only WTC 2. A molten material flows for a brief time from the same corner where flight 175 "piled up". Molten aluminum is the most logical explanation ... better to go with molten steel.
Originally posted by vor75
Normally after such acts of terrorism, vital evidence is not collected. It's usually left behind in order that people can sell it to the media.
Originally posted by vor75
Most experts disagree.
Originally posted by vor75
Virtually free-fall times? Plus a few extra seconds ... and?
Originally posted by vor75
Why is molten material observed no-where else before collapse? If thermite reactions were going off all over the place, why do we only see evidence of a thermite reaction in the same location where 175 piled up?
Originally posted by vor75
Steel glows orange in those ranges also. Do you
Why is molten material observed no-where else before collapse? If thermite reactions were going off all over the place, why do we only see evidence of a thermite reaction in the same location where 175 piled up?
Originally posted by Masisoar
Originally posted by zenlover28
Originally posted by fm258
Yet the official version of 9/11 is ALSO a 'Conspiracy Theory' and if you want to roll your eyes at THAT one, go ahead, because its the most IMPLAUSIBLE and OUTRAGEOUS theory of them ALL.
It is? How so? Please clarify yourself here.
Because they're using such a spectulative approach based off rigged up computers that set up unlikely parameters to determine a method in which would cause the building to indeed collapse straight down upon itself.
Notice the word ---> Speculative.