Should Saddam Be Executed?

The issue is if you do who's next

Mugabe?

Kenyata?

Bush?

Blair?

Why do people regard Saddam as any different from loads of other evil brutal men? (apart from the incessant news propaganda from the US media machine that is)

As discussed previously it's very interesting that they've decided not to charge him for gassing the Kurds - probably because he was a US stooge at the time and didn't get his chem weapons at the local store!

if saddam's executed..it's only right Bush is too

Originally posted by xeroxed88
If it were up to me, I wouldn't execute him because then that just makes me as bad as he is.

Excellent point - if I had spare votes you'd get one!

this topic has been brought up before........here;

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No way will killing Saddam be a good thing. Even at the most basic level someone will probably die indirectly or directly because of it. It is quite often ignored Saddam still has the respect of many people within Sunni society. Killing him will just piss them of some more.
Why can't he be locked up? What is it that this once great ally of the West has to be afraid of?

I'm still convinced we will actually be stupid enough to execute Saddam. But in no way does our stupidity make it right. I happen to respect Saddam for keeping his country under control (a majority of whom are Muslim fundamentalists). But I don't have to turn to that for reason for not executing him, the logics of reality make it an act of insanity. Even if I was one of Iraq's Shiite Muslim fundamentalists I would probably see it as little more than a symbolic demonstration of the West imposing its will over my country.

Then again many of these Shiite people are primitive people so I’m not denying many will be happy. But it will be happiness for all the wrong reasons, like the fact Saddam imposed a secular society, Neocons hate it but the truth is that much of their rebelling had little to do with general political reasons.
In ether case I'm sure that overall it’s just as satisfactory to lock Saddam behind bars indefinitely. How many people will die thanks to him being executed? I guess we will never know, but I suspect it’s more than that one innocent person too many.

I think they will kill Saddam because Bush is from Texas and they know what to do there when someone is partially or even completely innocent. But what if Saddam didn’t gas the Kurds? Is there any real hope of him getting justice? Why not just lock him up instead?

P.S This eye for eye business is caveman stuff. Firstly it’s unfair on serial killers secondly it accomplishes nothing that incarceration can’t. Iraq is probably worse of than it was under Saddam (certainly security wise) but I guess there’s a chance it could save them money, are the liquidated liberated really that poor nearly 4 years after us? Is it just Halliburton we share with Iraq; or is it also its practical and moral incompetence?

Death is an easy way out that is for sure, hard labor is the only thing which he should be sentenced to, and speed up trial a little, Milosevic's case was too unefficient.
Death penalty is sure OK, but in both cases we have to go through the whole trial, so then it wouldn't lessen the cost.
I would sentence him to shave that awful beard. It is the crime against humanity.

Originally posted by JebusSaves
I believe he should be handed over to the NATO or OTAN(proof the French are Backwards - i'm just teasing

), where he should be forced to spend the rest of his days in prison for his crimes and not given the luxury of a quick death.
I'm 100% opposed the death sentence for any crime, no matter how heinous as i do not believe any one person has the right to take another life, no matter what they have done.

this made me laugh... so if someone kills 5 people.. he shouldnt die because he killed 5 people?? what about those 5 people who were murdered? did he have the right to take their lives? no he didnt. so HOW DARE you even say the person who murdered those 5 innocent people shouldnt be killed. i support the eye for an eye program of old egypt.. you do something to someone the same thing is done to you... too bad that person shouldnt have done it in the first place. If you want someone to live fine you pay for their food cuz it aint coming out of my tax dollars

why dont they just torture him for the rest of his life see how he likes it hehe

Originally posted by Swatman
this made me laugh... so if someone kills 5 people.. he shouldnt die because he killed 5 people?? what about those 5 people who were murdered? did he have the right to take their lives? no he didnt. so HOW DARE you even say the person who murdered those 5 innocent people shouldnt be killed. i support the eye for an eye program of old egypt.. you do something to someone the same thing is done to you... too bad that person shouldnt have done it in the first place. If you want someone to live fine you pay for their food cuz it aint coming out of my tax dollars

Actually thats exactly how it should be.
Yes, the person who kills 5 innocent people should be dealt with, but at no point is HIS murder justified, as it would be bringing society down to his level.
We, as an enlightened people, should never have that mentality.
And yes, I CAN say it, as someone who has had a loved one murdered by someone.
And FYI, your 'Tax Dollars' are already paying for these people.

Originally posted by JebusSaves
Actually thats exactly how it should be.
Yes, the person who kills 5 innocent people should be dealt with, but at no point is HIS murder justified, as it would be bringing society down to his level.
We, as an enlightened people, should never have that mentality.
And yes, I CAN say it, as someone who has had a loved one murdered by someone.
And FYI, your 'Tax Dollars' are already paying for these people.

I agree. Sort of. It depends.

Is life our 'ultimate' sentence? By taking a life (in the name of 'justice') are we 're-starting' an evil soul? Are we allowing a monster to simply 'start all over again'?

Let me explain. If 'life' is something we choose, then isn't 'life' a sort of lesson we are seeking? Perhaps we chose this particular life for ourselves because it will bring us to a higher level within ourselves and with our God. I've come to realize (over the years) that I've learned more as a 'teacher' than I ever did as a 'student'.

By taking another person's life before his time has come, aren't we just (basically) awarding that person a second chance? (I hope I've expressed my thoughts correctly, as they are pretty deep on this topic.)

We, as an enlightened people, should never have that mentality.

I am truly amazed at the sympathetic support for such a mass murderer... shocked more like... I think we in America are truly living in a dreamworld. I wonder how many of you that want him to live have spent anytime over there to experience first hand the horror he caused. He may not be the worst, but he certainly ranks up there in the top few.

Enlightened people? Sadly I see VERY FEW of those in the world today.

Why do people regard Saddam as any different from loads of other evil brutal men?

They don't! But we CAUGHT him [there are people out there that still deny the Holocost too]

Can't say I'm a big supporter of the death penalty in this case.

I think they will kill Saddam because Bush is from Texas

Ummmmm its an Iraqi court... with Iraqi nationals making the decision about what to do with him... or has everyone convienently overlooked that little fact.

My personal view is get the hell out of there, stop buying their oil so they won't have money to buy our weapons so they can kill each other as they have done since before Jesus and will continue to do so no matter what they do, and fry Saddam and get on with it sothey can all go back to killing eash other over which version of Islam is the correct one.

Is life our 'ultimate' sentence? By taking a life (in the name of 'justice') are we 're-starting' an evil soul? Are we allowing a monster to simply 'start all over again'?

Absolutely not. From a religious point of view, he will get his just deserts wether to a Muslim God or to a Christian God. From a reincarnation aspect... man is he gonna have a lot of bad karma coming his way

How can Sadam be executed? He's done nothing wrong?

He was the leader of Iraq so what he says goes in that Country, No other country has any authority to tell another country what to do.

Imagine if it was the other way around and Sadam went to the USA grabbed Bush and locked him away in Iraq somewhere, then told everyone he had WMD and he's a nasty man, what would peoples reactions be then?



[edit on 22-6-2006 by DodgeG1]

Originally posted by JebusSaves
Actually thats exactly how it should be.
Yes, the person who kills 5 innocent people should be dealt with, but at no point is HIS murder justified, as it would be bringing society down to his level.
We, as an enlightened people, should never have that mentality.
And yes, I CAN say it, as someone who has had a loved one murdered by someone.
And FYI, your 'Tax Dollars' are already paying for these people.

i bet you would let the 9/11 high jackers live too. your sick.

How can Sadam be executed? He's done nothing wrong?

Hitler, Musilini and Stalin were leaders in their country also. I suppose we shoulda just let them be too?



[edit on 22-6-2006 by zorgon]

Originally posted by Swatman
i bet you would let the 9/11 high jackers live too. your sick.

Yes I would, its not my place to take their lives, not is it anyone elses.
I'm not gonna change my beliefs simply because one atrocity of this magnitude was done against an allied nation.

OTOH, If Saddam says the sinner's prayer, and takes Jesus into his heart, Ipso Facto, Saddam is "saved" and will say Hello St. Peter! “Open those Pearly Gates! I've got my harp and I'm ready to play! Hallelujah! PTL!”