Weird Tank Sighting (not Alien, i hope!)

Can you not at least get a picture of the tank when it is in it's "white" state

Thanks

woah sounds cool, id love to see a video or a photo of this.

especialy the cloaking or de cloaking moments

Hmph.
I love how as soon as someone says something new, half of the people say it's a hoax, and the other half immediately become scientists and explain whatever it is with sentences like "Well, there is cloaking tech, but it's not that good yet" (which I don't understand how you would even know) or "It must have been an electromagnetic thingamajig". (but what if it was something similar, but actually none of the above? hmmm? could it have been something that emits a signal that prevents your brain from perceiving it? I don't know either? I'm not a scientician)
And then "if they were testing something, you wouldn't get anywhere near it" and so on.

Let me say, that I believe the poster of this thread (within reason).

I totally believe that there are gov't bodies that have optical camoflague capabilities (white being the optimal colour because it is the colour that reflects light; now, I'm not a scientist, that's just stuff you learn in elementary school art class);

In all seriousness, gov'ts test lots of things right out in the open.
Being in plain sight, is the best place to hide.
Why not test in plain sight.
If joe average happens to wander by and see it, who's going to believe him?
Obviously not most of you, who are on this site because you (supposedly) believe something, right?
But I guess it's the old "if it doesn't happen to me, it's a lie or a hoax or someone trying to get attention. But if it does happen to me, it must be the truth and I can't be wrong".
I know a lot of people immediately shoot back with "well, why didn't you take a picture or some video?"
But really, on average, how many people actually walk around with cameras (aside from tourists and media people) all the time?
I am a believer in all sorts of stuff, that doesn't mean that I walk around with my camera "just in case".
That's not practical.
At any rate, yeah, sorry about the tangent (monkey temper); but I just want to say, that it's totally possible that this guy saw what he saw.

Originally posted by wu kung
But really, on average, how many people actually walk around with cameras (aside from tourists and media people) all the time?

I'd just like to say that i dont beleive the topic starter due to the fact that i cannot see the army testing a brand new cloaking tank, on land which they supposedly let anyone walk through.

Regardless of this, i have quoted you above because i infact find it baffeling that all these people who start topics like this on ATS never have a camera, now let me ask you this, and think about it before u reply, i mean really think about all your family, friends, etc.

But really, on average, how many people actually walk around without a mobile phone with a built in camera? I mean there hasnt been a phone sold within the last 2 years which doesnt have a camera of sorts on it.

And finally, just to add. I can honestly say that to my knowledge i dont know anyone at all who doesnt own a mobile phone, and for someone in the UK (i dont know about the rest of the world) not having a mobile phone is far far rarer than having a mobile phone.

Thanx

Hmph.
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
I guess I do walk around all day with a camera
Touche!

But I still stand by my statement of testing in plain sight.
It's like Doctor Who's TARDIS;
"If you park a big blue box in the middle of a crowded street in the middle of London in broad daylight, do you know who will notice it?
Nobody."

Originally posted by wu kung
Hmph.
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
I guess I do walk around all day with a camera

Touche!

But I still stand by my statement of testing in plain sight.
It's like Doctor Who's TARDIS;
"If you park a big blue box in the middle of a crowded street in the middle of London in broad daylight, do you know who will notice it?
Nobody."

yeah that is a very valid point, i will agree on you with that. However my skeptism on this topic remains.

Better get on with some work now anyway, have a good day

The British military does have invisibility technology, at least I think they do.

When I was in the Air Cdets, we were doing some recon exercises on Bovington, where they test tanks. There's an area we weren't alowd because they were testing that day. Being the curious lads we were, we found an elevated position overlooking the test area. Even though there were rocks and trees in there, we could see the dust tracks. All day, we heard tanks, but didn't actually see any.

Either they were really stealthy or they were invisible. If they were invisible, I wouldn't be surprised, the military can do amazing things, disappearing is probably one of them.

Even if an "invisible" tank were throwing up dust and rocks it would still be effective from a distance. Also, I don't see where "cloaking" would be all that unbelievable anyway. I also think the color white is optimal for projecting a background image on.

Could be a hoax but not an unbelievable scenario.

I know Sandhurst is an infantry training area (I've re-landscaped a bit of it in my time) buy can't recall if there's a tank area. Anyone (RTR?) know for certain?

I thought the main tank areas for the UK Army were Bovingdon, Germany and Suffield.

Given that it's secret / unacknowledged I'd have though Canada or even Bovingdon would be a better place than Hampshire to trial it if you want to keep it secret.

Overall I'm doubtful about this

This is actually similar to something I had discussed on another thread.
Take the simple dragonfly (the bug, not the helicoptor);
it has the ability (or so I've read) to bend light around it to displace its image, making it appear that it is somewhere other than where it actually is.
This gives it the edge in regards to predator/prey in the sense that if a bird is trying to snatch one up, it might actually dive at the illusion dragonfly, giving the original a chance to escape.
I have also read that the military is using this visual anomoly and trying to use it for combat applications (now that's freakin' scary).
So I absolutely believe that there are established equipment and protocols for optical camoflauge, besides, most of us (and I stress the term "most") would have no idea what we were looking at even if we were starring right at it.

I know there is a famous pic of an "alien in the desert" that looks like it's hiding in a bush. I believe that the pic is actually a man in full military gear being "cloaked".

Here is the link to the story: www.clydelewis.com...

When you really think about it, what is the next logical step of progression beyond current stealth technology. I mean, the basics of how radar stealth are somewhat commonly known to most of the world now. At minimum, the basics of the technology is known, even by our enemies. Sooo, I've always thought that the process works like this - Never release how a technology works to anyone unless you have a verified way to beat said technology or you can develop a new technology in that particular field an order of magnitude greater that existing technologies.

Seems to me that now, optical AND radar stealth would be the next step in tat progression. Seems feasible to me. And you do know that if jokers like us can dream up inventive ways to "cloak" military hardware and ufo's and whatnot, there is definately some brainiac out there either doing it or has done it already.

Man what an invincible weapons platform this would be.

Edit: Forgot a werd.... and my typing is atrocious...

[edit on 15-6-2006 by Lost_Mind]

[edit on 15-6-2006 by Lost_Mind]

"New cloaking device... now ugly guys can get laid too!" hehehehe. Believe me, if I was invisible outside some chicks motel window.. i wouldn't be talking on the phone... i'd be giving her a 'close encounter'."

hahahaha Come on that's hilarious


Anyway I think invisability and antigravity will become public within 8 years. It is not alien technology though and most likely will be used by the military first then move to the public sector.

I beleive I have been beaten to the punch of developing antigravity and invisability has been accomplished though only on a minimal scale. I would imagine invisability could be accomplished with a retro-reflective material that can bend light around the object. Look at a city worker overalls they have retro-reflective strips on them so when light hits on part the entire strip or patch lights up. However invisability would require materials much more advanced and probably stronger as well especially if it were to be applied to aircraft or tanks.

Yeah, I agree with lost_mind;
if someone thought of it, chances someone else thought of it first and found a way to make it work.
I believe that any information "leaked" to the public, would have been done well after any of this tech was already put into use and proven to work.
Remember, the tech that joe average uses, is far less advanced than the really cool stuff being utilized by the military.
When the stuff that the military uses becomes obsolete, it is introduced into the general populace (and is generally much more advanced than what the gen pop has already been using).

Two ideas already in the public domain

One possible in 18 months time:

Researchers in the US and Britain have unveiled their blueprints for building a cloaking device

And a simple idea involving cameras and screens possible now:



More on crude cloaking device

And its likely military use is ahead of public awareness

[edit on 15/6/2006 by alienanderson]

Hey!
I saw that exact same picture in a copy of Atlantis Rising magazine a few years ago.
Hmph.
Well, at least I'm not the only person who saw it.
Much props alienanderson.
Job well done.

This kind of thing with testing within public area's is not so rare in the UK at least .

I live near RAF Cosford in shropshire and tanks are all over the place at certain times. I can remember when some old boy in a tractor ran into one about 8 years ago just outside the village that i live in .

The military basically cordoned off a 10 mile area around the tank crash site , and spent the next 8-10 hours scouring the road .

The rumour was then that they had a new type of armour on the tank , and certain other countries wanted it , so they were paranoid about leaving a microscopic piece anywhere.

I'm telling you.
Gov'ts are becoming much more bold in regards to testing out in the open.
Most people don't care.
Even more don't even notice.
Even if a bunch of people do notice, most of them still don't care.
Then there are others that go on to conspiracy websites;
where even a bunch of those people don't care.

I guess, people just don't care.

Reducing visibity is one thing, but becoming absolutely transparent is another. I have discussed thing's like this with friend's and there seem's to be some pretty credible evidence's out there to back up such an event.

I once heard of the military comissioning a illusionist to make an entire city disappear, (I think In britain some where,not absolutely sure.) to protect it from air-raids during WWII from the luft-waffa from Germany. As I remember, the trick worked and spared the entire area of being desimated by air attacks. There is probably some one that checks this thread out that would be able to validate it much better than I can, I just know that it did take place.

As for the "White Tank" situation, I do agree that white would be the most plausible for a invisibility and or cloaking color. Would really be quite the find to know that there are governments out there achieving this kind of technology with such great accomplishments and outcomes and to have civilian wittnessess to verify it .

Doesn't this kind of eliminate the need for all the "Super soldier" or "Robot Warrior" stories that have been studied upon?

Originally posted by Allred5923
Reducing visibity is one thing, but becoming absolutely transparent is another. I have discussed thing's like this with friend's and there seem's to be some pretty credible evidence's out there to back up such an event.

I once heard of the military comissioning a illusionist to make an entire city disappear, (I think In britain some where,not absolutely sure.) to protect it from air-raids during WWII from the luft-waffa from Germany. As I remember, the trick worked and spared the entire area of being desimated by air attacks. There is probably some one that checks this thread out that would be able to validate it much better than I can, I just know that it did take place.

Allred,
Along those same lines Disney Corp. was highered during WW2 to hide an area of Cal. where a lot of facteries were located. They used deception to make it look like a residenchel sub divishen. So the millitary has interested in and useing optical deception for a long time. But like many other people have already said this is a long ways for complete optical invisibility.