Close Call from Asteroid on July 3rd

Originally posted by DSO
If its so difficult to spot, how well do we know it.

Because the telescopes designed for spotting and tracking asteroids can see it. A home telescope on the other hand, not so much.

Originally posted by Marid Audran
Hmmm so it is about the same distance away. Is there any chance of this meteor hitting the moon? What would be the effects of an object of that size colliding with the moon?

Not really even "about the same distance away." It's about 30,000 miles farther than the Moon. The Moon is about 2,200 miles in diameter. That means it's about 15 Moon diameters away from the Moon.

And aside from that, they're not even anywhere near to each other.

Originally posted by DSO
I was just reveiwing NASA's list of close approching comets and asteroids and i found that 2004 XP14 is supposed to pass by at 433000km. This space rock is somewhere in the 300m-800m in diameter range. Lets hope NASA has their calulations right.

neo.jpl.nasa.gov...

I am impressed about the calculations of this "XP 14"

Would you mind if I introduce a new possibility to this thread.
Are you sure this is just a comet or asteroid and not a Planet?
Ever heard about Nibiru?
Nibiru calculations

I wonder how these calculations and XP14´s calculations can be exactly the same?

Please, take your time to read the whole information about this Planet, you will find it extremely interesting.
Full story

Looking forward to hearing your comments about it.

Originally posted by Ptolomeo
Would you mind if I introduce a new possibility to this thread.
Are you sure this is just a comet or asteroid and not a Planet?
Ever heard about Nibiru?

I wonder how these calculations and XP14´s calculations can be exactly the same?

Alright, well here's a link that will disprove all of that Planet Ten crap put out there by Sitchin.

Now, aside from that, I'm really failing how you see that the orbital properties are exactly the same.

For starters, here is the image of the orbit of Planet Ten that Sitchin came up with


Now, you can see how it extends way out beyond Pluto. In the orbit simulation of XP-14, you can see that it doesn't even go past Mars. Aside from that, the mass and size of the asteroid arenothing like what Sitchin claims Planet Ten's to be.

Thank you for your answer, cmdrkeenkid

And thanks for the link to the website that disproves it (I have a lot to read now).

Your answer is a relief


I will take a look to the link you have provided.


Of course, other ATS members, please add your comments on this subject.
Thank you.

[edit on 24-6-2006 by Ptolomeo]

I´ve checked it up and its orbit is, indeed, not so high.


Thanks

What effect would the moon's gravity have on the asteroid, if any? And the Earth's for that matter? I mean, if the Earth's gravity can hold the moon in place, would it be that difficult to grab a much smaller chunk of rock just outside the moon's orbit?

niburu is most likely on its way... im a believer and will alwayz believe that it does indeed exist and will come to Earth sometime b4 2012...

a astroid hitting earth is just what we need.

let life start all over again from the beginning.

but them again i wouldnt be here,so. i guess is bad in the ending.
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but besides the fact i dont think well get hit, at the worst a couple meteor showers.

Originally posted by HimWhoHathAnEar
What effect would the moon's gravity have on the asteroid, if any? And the Earth's for that matter? I mean, if the Earth's gravity can hold the moon in place, would it be that difficult to grab a much smaller chunk of rock just outside the moon's orbit?

Actually, the Moon and Earth are in a tidal lock, meaning that they're gravitationally attracted to each other. This is the main reason why the Moon always has the same side facing Earth.

Aside from that, the asteroid, despite being smaller, won't be captured by the gravitational pull of the Earth for a couple of reasons. Mainly, it's not entering the area at a proper angle for that. Also, it's moving too fast. Despite that, there is a chance that the orbit could be affected by the Earth's gravity.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsOutThere2012
im a believer and will alwayz believe that it does indeed exist and will come to Earth sometime b4 2012...

So you're willing to say that despite the plethora of actual scientific information contradicting that belief?

big words simple sentences, his comment didnt even need to be answered

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
That's about 269,571 miles. The Moon orbits 238,857 away from Earth. Should I be worried about the Moon crashing to Earth!?

If it is an accurate measurement ... no
If it comes near the moon and gives it a tug ... yes
If they are wrong with their math... PANIC NOW

You can always have a good laugh if we survive


But seriously almost at moon orbit distance is pretty damn close. And watching that animation it comes our way a lot. Panic no, concern yes. But where you gonna run too? Their are no aliens to help evacuate us, there are no secret spaceships, so hold tight and hope it hits the other guy

Originally posted by DalairTheGreat
a astroid hitting earth is just what we need.

let life start all over again from the beginning.

but them again i wouldnt be here,so. i guess is bad in the ending.
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but besides the fact i dont think well get hit, at the worst a couple meteor showers.

Yeah i agree with you, but true..bad ending

Anyone out there know if we will be able to see this thing without instruments?

Originally posted by zorgon
Anyone out there know if we will be able to see this thing without instruments?

It'll be flying by at about 13-14th magnitude, so with a decent sized scope, the skills to spot it, and dark skies/weather provided, it shouldn't be too hard.

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid

Originally posted by zorgon
Anyone out there know if we will be able to see this thing without instruments?

It'll be flying by at about 13-14th magnitude, so with a decent sized scope, the skills to spot it, and dark skies/weather provided, it shouldn't be too hard.

Okay thanks, just a little pebble then, don't need to brush the cobwebs out of the bunker I sold my 12" reflector when hubble came out

Hey everyone its my first time here.. I just wanted to add that NASA will be taking up the space shuttle on the daybefore now thats the best place to be to watch the fireworks.

Let's recap (can you tell I'm bored today?!)...



1. Hubble offline.

2. NASA tenaciously trying to launch shuttle despite grave engineering concerns.

3. Rumors of Israel notifying NASA that a double asteroid is heading our way.

4. N. Korea ready to launch a missile.

5. Illuminati agenda exposed in 2004: Propogate hoax that asteroid is about to impact or is threatening Earth.

6. Air Force installation in Colorado Springs and one near Denver are operating with heightened security.

The Cheyenne Mountain Air Station, which houses NORAD, is now at "Bravo-Plus".

There are five levels of alert: normal, Alpha (low), Bravo (medium), Charlie (high) and Delta (critical). Bravo-Plus is slightly higher than a medium threat level.

The Cheyenne Mountain Air Station And Buckley Air Force Base are among four installations in the country at the higher alert level ordered last week by then- Acting-Commander of Air Force Space Command, General Fred Klotz.

Space Command would not comment on the reason for the security increase.

The order also affects Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and Patrick Air Force Base in Florida.


Random things...

Originally posted by SilentLucidity
Random things...

Don't sweat it, according to this, it's already come as close as it's going to.

A giant space rock was set to whizz past the Earth on Monday under the close scrutiny of astronomers.
The mountain-sized object had been classed as a "potentially hazardous asteroid", but scientists say there was no danger of a collision with Earth

It was anticipated that asteroid 2004 XP14, as it is called, would be visible through good amateur telescopes.

Its closest approach to Earth, above the west coast of North America, was projected at 0444 GMT.

yeah...whew! but something is still up.

[edit on 3-7-2006 by SilentLucidity]

>>>> re-rerouted

Ok, so, has this rock already passed and gone? What time is it supposed to make the fly-by?

I need to know if i should cook supper or not.