Outbreak of black, tar-like sweat in southern Texas?

-mosquitos/bugs?
-water (new water parasites)?
-growth with heat?

the beat goes on

www.livescience.com...

posted: 26 May 2006

Further deepening the mystery, some analyses suggest the fibers might be made of cellulose, a molecule generally found in plants.

Originally posted by ADVISOR
Any and all questions would be great, come on people. There are no stupid questions exept the unasked one. Yall have until the end of exams, after that.

Yup. I am going to send it to a biology teacher friend to get her take. The fact this infestation does not cause an infection within the human body (and animals?) is evidence that the body does not even recognize it as a foreign host. A invader that is not recognizable as one...

Any takers on a organized research project? See if this can be proved one way or the other, hoax or does it have proof?

Any body, why no u2u?


Has to be the week end.

The live science article was just put front page in Yahoo! homepage.

Simple Enough


I'm happy to see this is now getting attention, though I also see it as interesting that we've been talking about it for a while now. Jeez, I hope this gets the info out there so we can get more information on what's going on.

Edit: The reason that I made the link name, "simple enough", is because it is only the www dot yahoo dot com address.

[edit on 5/27/06 by niteboy82]

The yahoo.com page also changes regularly, so the frontpage doesn't have anything about it anymore.

exact link

Sorry, I'm still kind of new, I should have known better on that one though. My bad.

Originally posted by ADVISOR
See if this can be proved one way or the other, hoax or does it have proof?

I'll wager my eternal soul it is not a hoax. Let's go to the source, that lady who started the foundation, and find out what she knows. Then we'll have more to work with

There's a little rumor going around that a disease called Morgellons, a creepy skin disease that involves little bugs a bug-like sensation under the skin, and the websites associated with it are just a viral marketing campaign for the upcoming movie A Scanner Darkly.

www.adrants.com...

www.rewells.com...

www.rewells.com...

Originally posted by Termite197
There's a little rumor going around that a disease called Morgellons, a creepy skin disease that involves little bugs a bug-like sensation under the skin, and the websites associated with it are just a viral marketing campaign for the upcoming movie A Scanner Darkly.

www.adrants.com...

You must not have read at the very bottom where they had their updates listed:

UPDATE III: CDC Communication Specialist Dan Rutz returned our call and has verified that Morgellons is a syndrome, as he refers to it, the CDC is looking into. The CDC has received numerous calls from those citing symptoms associated with what is being called Morgellons Disease and has, in fact, formed a group to explore the syndrome and define it. All angles from environmental to medial to psychological will be taken into consideration. Rutz says, based on information the CDC has collected to date, it's highly unlikely this syndrome was "invented" as some us originally thought. Whether Morgellons is being leveraged in some clandestine fashion to promote A Scanner Darkly is unclear bit if it is, it's sick, twisted and wrong.

This isn't over, but hey, it was a good hypothesis at the least.

Originally posted by Termite197
There's a little rumor going around that a disease called Morgellons, a creepy skin disease that involves little bugs a bug-like sensation under the skin, and the websites associated with it are just a viral marketing campaign for the upcoming movie A Scanner Darkly.url

Aah, well, that clears it up nicely. I have a cheap soul anyway. Soo, what is the next crisis?

Not sure if the movie is the answer to this, or if the CDC is takeing it seriously, but I'm going to keep looking into it until one way or another it is determined hoax or movie prop.

Since a lot of these places with the most infections occurred near water...it might as someone else had suggested come from something that may have been in a deep freeze and was released when global warming took effect. Like that freaky flesh eating virus that mysteriously popped up as well.

If that is the case, this would have spread rather fastly. Will have to look into how it could travel that way. Also, it seems to have been reported in every state, is this case also prevailent out side the US? What foreign reports can we compile?

Advisor, I advise (no joke intended) going slowly and carefully...
this sort of investigation can be tainted away from effectivness very easily...

Try to establish first, what componants of the disease there are...
My guess would be
Neurological problems associated with an odd skin infection, that seems to discharge fibers...

There are a wide range of other possibilities here...
The human body does form odd fibers in cuts and scars, but they are more cottony looking, so set those that are white, or flesh colored away from the rest...

secondly, people that "feel" parasites are notoriously going to scratch, and cause themselves harm... (sores) so it is almost a prerequisite, that the person be checked for drug use (codiene and others can cause itchiness). This disease is a hypochondriacs wet dream, so a mental test wouldn't be out of place...
There are numerous types of natural causes that would cause tendons, veins, or other fiber type material to emerge from the skin in an injured area...
so again, many of these cases might be self inflicted...

The odd thing i keep reading is this "people say these must be textile fibers, but they are not... we dont know what they are, but they seem to have a cellulose componant guess what einsteins... wouldn't that indicate things like um, i dunno...
COTTON
or Jute
or Hemp
or any other NATURAL fiber that is cellulose composed...
so the denial that this is a textile fiber seems to be a misnomer, actually stating that they are not SYNTHETIC in origin...

this still MIGHT just be a bunch of hypochondriacs itching themselves silly, and rolling in cotton sheets... and later trying to tug capillaries and scabs out of sores...

As i have stated before... on average, i have 10 or so sores on mybody that all look like pimples... and yes, they have fuzz in the scabs...
and i itch, whenever i read about morgellens... but not noticable otherwise...
I wonder if my medical family background is the only thing that sets me apart from people that are assuming this is a new disease...

also, i heard reference to a video... I haven't seen any yet, that impressed me to the point of "wow, aint seen that before"
all looks quite familiar in fact... and common to me...

But what about the pro ball player ending his short career cuz of it, then his wife and kids get it??? This definitely needs to be researched and layed out....

What is the common denominator in all of these people. there has to be ONE Thing that all of them are doing, coming in contact with, living under, whatever the case maybe.

Originally posted by niteboy82
exact link

The article niteboy82 linked for us says the one paper mentioning Morgellons has been published in a recent issue of the American Journal of Clinical Dermatology.

I tracked down that paper. Unfortunatly the 5 page article is $50.

The Mystery of Morgellons Disease: Infection or Delusion?
Authors: Savely, Virginia R.1; Leitao, Mary M.2; Stricker, Raphael B.3

Source: American Journal of Clinical Dermatology, Volume 7, Number 1, 2006, pp. 1-5(5)

Morgellons disease is a mysterious skin disorder that was first described more than 300 years ago. The disease is characterized by fiber-like strands extruding from the skin in conjunction with various dermatologic and neuropsychiatric symptoms. In this respect, Morgellons disease resembles and may be confused with delusional parasitosis. The association with Lyme disease and the apparent response to antibacterial therapy suggest that Morgellons disease may be linked to an undefined infectious process. Further clinical and molecular research is needed to unlock the mystery of Morgellons disease.

Affiliations:
1: South Austin Family Practice Clinic, Austin, Texas, USA
2: Morgellons Research Foundation, McMurray, Pennsylvania, USA
3: California Pacific Medical Center, San Francisco, California, USA

Originally posted by makeitso
I tracked down that paper. Unfortunatly the 5 page article is $50.

Even if one of us bought it, we couldn't post it on here anyway though, right? Figures the one good bit we can have is gonna be 50 bucks. I think this is a pretty good indication that this is not some movie stunt. If Dermatology clinics are now looking into this, and the CDC is now looking into it as well, ho ho ho... some movie producers are going to be in a lot of trouble!


I personally believe this is real, I think that link to saying it is a joke, is about as reliable as some of the other rumor mills that we can get info out of. I know this much, I won't be going to see a movie that caused this much trouble if is has been using the misfortune of others to try to add any sort of hype.

I am not sure that you would find anything worthwhile in the article if you purchased it. I am not happy with the close affiliation that the research article has with the Morgellons Research Foundation. Its a bit like researching myself, I would find exactly what I told me to find.

Now if the research was done by, oh say, Oxford, Stanford, or any other reliable institute that was independant from the Morgellons Foundation, I would take that a little more serious. Also, just because the American Journal of Clinical Dermatology allows a research paper to be published at their site, does not mean that they approved, funded, or are looking into the issue themselves,

As for the CDC forming a task force, I only see that posted at sites that reference Deborah Knapp's statement in
KENS 5 Eyewitness News.

Does anybody have anything definitive from the CDC confirming that they are actually forming a taskforce?

I am not saying that this isn't real, I'm just taking it with a grain of salt until more substancial information is forthcoming.