If US Attacks Iran, Iran Attacks Israel

Well, one factor people don't consider here is Iran's president. You can't predict a madman. He doesn't care if his country gets wiped out if it:

A)Kills the "evil Zionists"

B)Makes Islam a superpower or forms a caliphate.

In fact, he thinks of the old days when Iran threw thousands of kids onto machine guns saying they were going to get virgins for being martyrs as "the good ol' days".

[edit on 2-5-2006 by Nakash]

Originally posted by Vitchilo
So the summary is if US start the war, then Iranian continues it and Israël retaliate and then it's WW3. So don't let Bush get away with it!!!

I ask every american that don't want WW3 and millions of people killed to stop the president by any means to do that. I heard about militias taking over the white house if the decision of nuking iran was took.

what country are you from and if you believed the thing about militias you are crazy!

Wow. So after five years this is the level of deterioration that the conflict has come to huh. Well from an Iranian perspective it actually makes sense. Alot of people have been talking about how the US can destroy Iran from the air and the Iranians can't do anything about it. So I guess they figured that they can't Europe and even if they could wouldn't be smart because NATO would come full force, and the US is too far so someone has to pay if their nation is destroyed by massive bombing so here's Israel.

What many people are forgeting though is that Iran just became an official member of SCO. To me with this event the chances of America nuking Iran except in a retaliatory attack has gone way down if not disappeared.

Originally posted by NeoQuest
What many people are forgeting though is that Iran just became an official member of SCO.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization is mainly an economic cooperation alliance, etc.

Accordingly, are you assuming that because Iran joined the SCO, that Russia or China or any of the other 4 members will come militarily rushing to Iran's aid if the U.S and et. al, if applicable, opt to airstrike Iran's nuclear reactors and facilities?
Consider this: Russia Will Remain Neutral In U.S.-Iran War

Granted things may and can change, but IMHO and based on some assumptions, if the U.S. unilaterally or bilaterally strikes at Iranian reactors and facilities and does not invade, Russia, as with other SCO members, will likely not militarily intervene on behalf of Iran.





seekerof

[edit on 2-5-2006 by Seekerof]

Originally posted by holywarrior
There is absolutely no doubt that Iran will attack Isreal in the future. It's been prophesied in Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39. Ancient Persia is modern day Iran.

for some info on Iran this check out this link.
www.cbc.ca...

and also this one to.
www.cbc.ca...



[edit on 2-5-2006 by EvilGoat]

I was wondering what people thought if Israel attacked Iran? I mean, with all the threats and whatnot coming from Iran about Israel, one has to consider the potential that Israel will pre-emptively strike Iran, and has done so in the past.

So if that happens, what will Iran's response be? Conventional, nuke or bio/chemical attack Israel? Or attack someone else? The US in Iraq for example?

This whole situation makes me itchy...

Regards-
Aimless

It's good for the oil and gold prices ;-)

Hehe, Iran has a very sound philosophy. I have enemys too, and they are more numerous than me, but I have made a policy in which if someone attacks me or my property, I have picked a couple of my enemys for swift and brutal retaliation.
I can only say, it works!!

Originally posted by Aimless Searcher
I was wondering what people thought if Israel attacked Iran? I mean, with all the threats and whatnot coming from Iran about Israel, one has to consider the potential that Israel will pre-emptively strike Iran, and has done so in the past.

So if that happens, what will Iran's response be? Conventional, nuke or bio/chemical attack Israel? Or attack someone else? The US in Iraq for example?

This whole situation makes me itchy...

Regards-
Aimless

YOU'RE AN AGENT

It sure seems like this is escalating into war.
Why are some of you talking about Russia becoming a part of this? Russia has its own problems to take care of.

It's obvious that the leaders of Iran have more mouth than they have brains.

Iran is going to mess right around and and bite off more than they can chew.

Israel has clearly shown more restraint than any other nation the world has ever seen, which it would be wrong to attack another nation becuse they've got a big mouth, even though Iran deserves it.

Iran and other Middle Eastern nations are fooled by Israels size so they think they can just run off at the mouth and provoke Israel into a confrontation.

Explosives tend to come in small packages and let us pray that Israel never has to unleash her power in the region. The stench of rotting Muslims will be carried over to the Western Hemisphere and we don't want that.

[edit on 2/5/06 by Intelearthling]

If US Attacks Iran, Iran Attacks Israel....

I would be more worried about Israel attacking Iran..

Christian said

YOU'RE AN AGENT

An agent of what or whom? And why would my post evoke such a response from you?

Regards-
Aimless

Something just seems odd. Why is Iran so "talkative"? I mean if there was real fear of a war with US they would not be spewing forth all this rubbish and bluster. Wouldn't they be playing it close to the vest? Look mad what ramblings got Hussein in Gulf War 1. His supposed holy warrior "republican guard" came crawling out of their mud holes kissing the hands coallition soldiers without a fight. The fact is Iran is not a happy country. It's people are not happy and they are not all that wealthy. Part of me wonders if all this hot air is just to raise the global crude oil futures price which directly helps Iran's economy.

That being said, it would be NO CONTEST if Iran and the US got into it. Geez don't you people know what the US spends on the military? Do you know that you don't even know HALF the destructive technology at it's disposal?
The US "may" appear a bit unmighty as a few soldiers die to IEDs every month. But that is a whole lot different than vaporizing targets.

American is "trying to war nice" with Iraq. We are not fighting the country. We are trying to stabilize a situation to get out without the appearance of retreat. We could turn the whole country to glass overnight if we wanted to but that is not the goal.

In terms of other countries, no one would do ANYTHING. Why? Russia wants no part of the US and China wouldn't get into it with the one customer that keeps the country's economy rolling. The American Consumer is the best ally China has. They would not risk losing that.

Agenda: 1 world govt, 1 world system.

Goals: Take out any and all who would pose a threat to said agenda.

What is happening in the middle east is the playing out of long kept plans.

Quite simply countries like Iran (under their current leadership) will not accept a 1 world system.
Bashing Israel is futile, whats happening in the world today is ALOT bigger than Israel.

Pick a country, any country, where you think a 1 world system will NOT be accepted, and I'll show you a country thats on the hit list.

A one world govt, and joint systems IS the agenda, and this middle eastern business we are currently observing has been LONG planned and is now "next" on the "what to do" list.

thats like a bully hitting another because he's in trouble. what a bunch of wimps iran has in charge

[edit on 2-5-2006 by Low Orbit]

Originally posted by Russian soldier
It sure seems like this is escalating into war.
Why are some of you talking about Russia becoming a part of this? Russia has its own problems to take care of.

Yes it does, however Putin has been tearing apart the progress of previous Russian/American Leaders brought together, and why?

Why does Russia have the same view point as China on this issue. Why do both refuse to sanctions, supplies, and troops?

Everyone knows when you spread youself too thin then the wolves come in!(your enemy) We don't want to leave our backdoor open to a potential Communist Attack upon attacking Iran.

The problem with Russia is that from the outside looking in they(Russia) seem to be making us(the U.S) their problem again.

Allies will work together on an issue even if they don't see eye to eye Enemies will tell you they are working on the issue but secretly plot against you.

Thats just my honest conservative opinion, what do you think of it?

Originally posted by northwolf
China and Russia will most likely not engage in active war fighting, they may covertly supply weapons (for a price of course)

Syria will join the battle and probaly will act as staging and support area for Iranian attack.

But IF Israel retaliates with WMDs it will change the playng field in Middle-east:
1)US friendly goverments (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, UAE...) will most likely crumbe if they don't turn against US (and act to support iran)
2)Pakistan will be the key since it holds the only true WMD capacity in Muslim world
3)Central Asia will most likely fall on Islamist hands causing severe unrest in southern Russia forcing Russians to take action too (and possibly to negotiate some sort of alliance with US)

Pakistan will not do anything overtly if Israel nukes Iran. Becaues if they do then India will get all worried and begin mobilising or maybe even move to take out Pak nuclear assets. But IMHO if Musharraf is in power he will not attack(nuke) Israel even if they nuke Iran. Too risky for him.

Also Central Asia will not fall to islamists. Tooo much Russian influence there. The SCO and India wouldn't allow it. The central Asian republics are the sole property of the SCO and India (that's how they see it at least ! )

HEY Intelearthling
America and Isreal are biting more then they can chew. The Isrealis think that they are invincible. hahahahaha
Take a look at history. Huzbullah forced the Isrealis out of there land. Made them run out so fast that they left there weapons behind. Thats lebanon with huzbullah numbering no more then 200,000, irans poplulation is 60 million. Iran has a population that has faced combat form Iraq for 8 years plus they can block the worlds oil supplys (Isreal will relalise that itll have no freinds very fast if this happens) and can cause havoc in middle east politics for the next trillion years.
By the way any attack by Isreal or america will give justification for terrorists from the iranian area clearences for the next 1000 years to carry out attacks.
Personally i dont understand why america wants to get itself caught up with Iran. i couple of lightly armed insurgents have america sweating in Iraq, if america goes for Iran itll make baghdad look like a walk in the park.

Intelearthling show some respect no ones won the war yet

Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by NeoQuest
What many people are forgeting though is that Iran just became an official member of SCO.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization is mainly an economic cooperation alliance, etc.

Accordingly, are you assuming that because Iran joined the SCO, that Russia or China or any of the other 4 members will come militarily rushing to Iran's aid if the U.S and et. al, if applicable, opt to airstrike Iran's nuclear reactors and facilities?
Consider this: Russia Will Remain Neutral In U.S.-Iran War

Granted things may and can change, but IMHO and based on some assumptions, if the U.S. unilaterally or bilaterally strikes at Iranian reactors and facilities and does not invade, Russia, as with other SCO members, will likely not militarily intervene on behalf of Iran.





seekerof

[edit on 2-5-2006 by Seekerof]

Actually the SCO will definitely not intervene militarily on behalf of Iran if it is invaded, mainly because along with Iran, Mongolia,Afghanistan and Pakistan; India have also been inducted into this group. There will be no consensus on providing overt military support to Iran.

But believe me, the crux of this assumption that Iran will not get any support from its friends in the East, lies in the fact that these friends and infact all neutrals are probably confident that they can pressurise the US from backing out of a military solution.In the international political scenario, everybody who is somebody truely believes that the worst this can degrade too is a lot of really tough sanctions.Nothing more. That too is a worst case scenario. War is not on the cards gentlemen.