USA vs North Korea

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by groingrinder

They are also in much better physical shape than most Americans. If it was h2h combat North Korea would rule!!

Thanks for the 'break'..

But seriously.. only 'legimate' targets for US are Canada and Mexico..

That is if they start to give you troubles..

But the intercontinental wars are criminal and unjust!

Criminal and unjust?

Why's that? Just because they aren't bordering the USA?

Did Germany/Japan border the USA during WW2?


Yes they were still threats that needed to be dealt with.

Threats are now still surfacing around the globe....and they need to be dealt with too.

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by Kalistenics
Well what would you do fulcrum if faced with a totally hostile country openly saying they would strike you if they could accuring nuclear weapons?
First strike is only real option! Unless USA want to get dragged into a horrific long and bloody war!

NK has only said that it will strike at US pacific MILITARY BASES if US starts a build up of a forces for a war against NK.

That is a JUST FIRST STIKE!

US has no business in the whole pacific area.

US should and must only mind 'business' in the #ING AMERICAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I have to no - are you so stupid and small minded you cannot communicate without vulgarity? Seriously, pal, it doesn't make you look mature or tough.

As far as our presence being needed in Asia, you only say we shouldn't be there because it prevents communism from taking over more of the world. It has already ruined enough lives and wrecked enough environments, it doens't need to spread any farther.

DaRAGE,

No..

But it seems that you are a racist and a ultra patriotic american..

So there is little point in me trying to reason with you, as people like you are so ignorant that nothing works with you..



Btw, Japan attacked USA and Germany declared war on USA on the wake of that attack..

As Germans were in alliance with Japanese.. (Anti-Comintern and Axis 'deals'..)

So in theory US was a victim in ww2.. but this isnt the real truht as US had been helping UK in the war long before Dec. 1941..

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

First off, I have to no - are you so stupid and small minded you cannot communicate without vulgarity? Seriously, pal, it doesn't make you look mature or tough.

As far as our presence being needed in Asia, you only say we shouldn't be there because it prevents communism from taking over more of the world. It has already ruined enough lives and wrecked enough environments, it doens't need to spread any farther.

Thomas,

I dont like your tone PAL..

From what i hear and see..

Capitalism corrupts peoples minds, souls and bodys much more than Communism..

Communism is ORDER, Capitalism is CHAOS.. DISORDER..



I do what i can to support the 'RED' cause..

Originally posted by FULCRUM
DaRAGE,

No..

But it seems that you are a racist and a ultra patriotic american..

So there is little point in me trying to reason with you, as people like you are so ignorant that nothing works with you..

Btw, Japan attacked USA and Germany declared war on USA on the wake of that attack..

As Germans were in alliance with Japanese.. (Anti-Comintern and Axis 'deals'..)

So in theory US was a victim in ww2.. but this isnt the real truht as US had been helping UK in the war long before Dec. 1941..

Firstly, I am not racist. I HATE rascists and Racism, and as far as i'm concerned, Racists are mentally disturbed. I'd really like to know how i'm racist also...so if u can please explain?

Secondly. I'm not American and have never been to America. So you can cut your Ultra Patriotic American BS out of your vocabulary when talking about me.

ignorant? Tell me how i'm ignorant, because i can certainly see that you are, and so can many others.

Take the world for what it is Fulcrum, because you seem to be in denial.

And i dont think many people like YOUR tone fulcrum!

DaRAGE,

If you arent a Ultra Patriotic American and a Racist..

Why do you support their messed up cause?

Why do you support 'nuking' of NK?

That is a holocaust..

You should realize what are you talking about..

Originally posted by Kalistenics
And i dont think many people like YOUR tone fulcrum!

Plenty people here like me..

And also in IRL..

So im fine..

And it doesnt matter to me if couple of madmans who want US to nuke NK dont like me.

Never said i didnt like you. Just dont like they way your flaming the thread. Theres no need for it.

I never said i wanted the US to nuke NK.

I dotn want anyone nuking anyone.

But if that will happen or not....depends totally on NK and the US.

I have nothing to do with both.
Nukes are bad for the planet and should be elliminated.

Youstil havn't shown me how i'm racist, ignorant, or an ultra patriotic american.

IF a country has a leader who has gone mad and starved his own people, and says the US is going to invade his country even when not, and wants tog et nukes and aim them at that country, Of course the country getting aimed at (THE USA) would be getitng very nervous, nad wanting to do something about it, and not let that other country have nukes.

This is the real world.

Think b4 you speak.

Abuse not. Treat others like you would like to be treated by them.

Originally posted by DaRAGE
Throw a nuke down a bug hole, you got a lot of dead bugs.

Kalistenics was talking how US should nuke NK..

And this is your reply to it.



It is racists..

You are refering to the North Koreans as 'BUGS'..



And also this seems to me more like you think that the nuking of NK is a good thing..

And not as it is a bad thing..



Now, care to explain?

Originally posted by Kalistenics
Never said i didnt like you. Just dont like they way your flaming the thread. Theres no need for it.

You are here nuking 1 million or more North Koreans..

And i am flaming the topic?



Your planning for a holocaust of North Koreans..

And im saying that it is a bad and sick idea..

And suddenly im the bad guy?

Please..

Where did i say that?

BTW...A holocaust of North Koreans?



They're practically already dead anyways...with their leader starving them and all. But hey..i guess it's good to have a mad man in power anyways....

I million dead Koreans due to a couple of nukes isn't anything compared to how many have died at that insane leaders command. such as starving his own people, and jsut via his rule.

Just thought i'd bring that up.

But i dont want anyone nuking anyone. Geez. /But sometimes thigns cant be avoided.

I only said nuke because i dont think america would want to get into a war like one vs NK would be like. Move all the troops, equipment. Lose alot of troops, start to win, then NK nuke you!
Thats why i think US should avoided american casualties and go straight for the throat!

Me talking to a pair of propaganda rottened 'brains'..



Ill leave you two to this..

I think if america is going to go down the North Korean path and NK and the USA decide to have a war....Then AMerica should really rock NK's world with it's advanced new technology that it has stored away somewhere. Everything new and advanced they have,go and rock NK's world and make them surrender straight away.

Yep, that would give them a real shock!

North Korea is a dangerous nation and they are constantly threatening to use, test, build nukes. I think that they are a perfect candidate for a pre-emptive strike. That would shut that stupid ass Kim Jong Il up, and a pre-emptive strike would not hurt us at all. It is not like we need NK for anything like oil, etc.

It would hurt the relationship with japan and south korea who don't want the u.s. to start a pre-emptive strike, it's not even close to being a perfect candidate.


The north korean training standard is very high, they can on average wipe the floor with the south korean soldier (who btw have a very fierce repution in the post korean war).


If a war does come between n.korea and the u.s. then it would be a bad idea to use even a small tactical nuke.
One reason is that many South Koreans would be angry that we just nuked their brothers and sisters and poisened parts of their land for centuries to come. The other reason is that the Korean people are xenophobic and a proud race, using nukes against them is like saying "Here we come we are going to kill anyone we see men,women and child." and the entire population would take up arms.

Originally posted by gookingthe entire population would take up arms.

how if their all sick or dying from a nuclear attack? anyways if there is a war, im sure japan will be bombing NK targets before the US even declares war.