Secret Bases On The Moon .

OK, I'm really freaking out about this. It may be relevant. There's a code in Dark Rain (find it on amazon UK), I've started working it out and it's definitely there, though I haven't cracked all of it yet. It's about Eden, and I think it gives a date when positive feedback in the environment reaches critical mass. The weather is a chaos model, right? Chaos is not random, it is just really hard to predict because the outcome of an action is affected by a multitude of other actions, but with a mathematical model that was complex enough it would be possible to predict a pretty accurate date. The code also points to government agencies involved in a programme aimed at saving an elect few. Eden on Mars? The research is there. Eden Project...??? Does this guy know something? Has anyone else tried to crack the code?

greetings,

Eden? im not clear on that,. would u be so kind as to fill me in on it??
i havent read the book allthough i would like to know more about your theory.
if u wouldnt mind of course.

Omega

Hey whats up guys? First post, blah blah blah.

I'm very much an open minded person. Though not to the point of it being detrimental to ones self. IE. Believing 80% or above of anything on Coast to Coast AM. (Or should I say 95%? )

Regardless, I believe all is not as it seems.

This is one long thread, and I already have a lot of reading to do for my A+ class, so I post this in hopes this is not a repost.

Please take the time and watch the following video.

video.google.com...

Rougly one hour in, a man mentions these moon bases.

This link brings up some excellent points.

www.ufos-aliens.co.uk...

At the bottom of that, it links you to a page on the same site detailing the hoax of the moon landing. I personally, do not subscribe to that theory. I believe it happened, though the site, again, does bring up some interesting points.

I remember listening to C2C AM and thinking what proposterous of an idea that it was, the idea of a moon base. Either human made of otherwise.

I don't know what the truth is, but I do know that all is not as it seems.

Like the first video I linked you to, I shall leave you with this. "I know we are not alone in the universe. I know that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Clifford Stone Sergeant 1st Class United States Army

He, like everyone else in that video, is prepared to testify before congress or any other official body and state that what they have said is the truth.

Thanks for reading this, and again, I hope I didn't repost.

Originally posted by Enkidu
Oops! My mistake. I did a comprehensive photo "analysis" of one of the lunar surface photos above, and found undeniable photographic PROOF of alien (possibly Atlanean) ruins! Is my face red. Compare it to the original. Rectilinear features are in yellow, blue arrows point to obvious anomalies such as strange colored craters, or flat impact craters on the SIDES of crater walls!

All of this is indicative of the billion year-old ruins of a sophisticated lunar mining operation.

Or it could be just any random lunar surface photo and me with a line tool and a lot of imagination...

"What the hell happened to our team of the SBOMR anyway?" and mostly,"why in the 'Hay Hell', haven't you tried to contact me?" The thread that you are running right now is so "BS" compared to what we were doing before, I refuse you to use any of the info I have gave you under Allred5923, I will get my own recruit's and go from there. You have ben around to appologize, and thats all I have been getting from you the MOD'S , I want to start my own research team and if I have to I will do it myself. If you decide to use the pic's or anything else I have found during our gathering, I will ask the Mods to remove it , or I will delete all the pic's and let you search on your own. Formerly, (ALLRED5923)

Topic: Secret Bases On The Moon

Originally posted by wildbill
Heres one for you "OMEGA85".....

I am investigating your complaint. During the investigation, let's please refrain from discussing this issue in the thread.

I will take appropriate action once I have a clear understanding of the facts in this case.

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.



[edit on 7/11/2006 by Majic]

Originally posted by wildbill
"What the hell happened to our team of the SBOMR anyway?" and mostly,"why in the 'Hay Hell', haven't you tried to contact me?" The thread that you are running right now is so "BS" compared to what we were doing before, I refuse you to use any of the info I have gave you under Allred5923, I will get my own recruit's and go from there. You have ben around to appologize, and thats all I have been getting from you the MOD'S , I want to start my own research team and if I have to I will do it myself. If you decide to use the pic's or anything else I have found during our gathering, I will ask the Mods to remove it , or I will delete all the pic's and let you search on your own. Formerly, (ALLRED5923)

ALLRED , Your entitled to your opinion but I refuse YOU to abuse myself or any other ATS members as u have done over this matter.
ALSO you submitted pics for use in the investigation THEREFOR the team is able to use them for the project and its as clear as that.
So you can do what you want and i wish you well
TO EVERYONE ELSE.
There are two more recruits joining soon so stay tuned to the thread

Omega85

[edit on 11/7/2006 by Omega85]

Just a reminder, let's please resist the temptation to discuss wildbill's allegations in this thread during my investigation.

Thanks.




[edit on 7/11/2006 by Majic]

Originally posted by TheGoodDoctorFunk

I'm sorry. the 'paranoid ramblings' of other threads? I'm going to have to call you out on this one. Each and every one of the 'cases' presented here have been based on bepixeled images, artists concepts, tampered photographs, and bad, bad, bad science. From what I have read in the last five pages, you have searched the internet, muckling on to any theory about moon bases out there. You present them here while giving the minimum of input from yourself. At best, sir, your arguments for a moon base is speculative, and at worst, unsubstantiated.

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Okay, can you point out to me somewhere on the back side of the moon where there is evidence of such surface mining? Wait, these aren't the best photos. Try
These
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Or look at these images, courtesy of Wikepedia.
en.wikipedia.org...:Moon_PIA00304.jpg
en.wikipedia.org...:Moon_PIA00303.jpg
Those are both of the far side of the moon. As a note, the vertical lines are very nicely gemoetrical artifacts from piecing together the photos of the 1999 Lunar Prospector mission. The off-color streaks around each impact crater is the ejecta from said impact.

I'm not trying to cut anyone down, or ruin their mood. Just trying to dispell some unscientific thinking and, as always, denying ignorance.

Well.... Speaking of "tampered photographs", you know those pictures from the far side of the moon were taken by NASA, provided by NASA? How could one actually make out any kind of structure or signs of life from the very few, very pixelated, very far away shot of the far side of the moon?

Do me a favor, point out some man made structures in this photo:



Or maybe point out some structures on this photo:

visibleearth.nasa.gov...

The fact is, we wont discover the bases by any means available to the public. We can't use telescopes, we can't use images provided by random websites, and we personally can't yet fly there on our own, or build a personal satellite to check it out for ourselves. So all we can do is hope someone slips, and the truth is set free.


B.T.W. Did anyone read about the hacker that hacked into the Navy, NASA, Air force and other US military computers? He went to trial, and i'm pretty sure he wouldn't of been arrested and sent to court unless he actually hacked the computers. I herd he was hacking unnoticed for about 2 years, and he discovered a section of NASA that is in charge of digitally editing NASA photographs. Also, he talks about anti-gravity, free energy, and even a base on the moon. Why would I believe him? Because he actually got caught hacking the computers.



[edit on 12-7-2006 by LAES YVAN]

The horrid grammar and spelling tend to make me disbelieve everything that guy says.

Originally posted by 25cents
The horrid grammar and spelling tend to make me disbelieve everything that guy says.

Who are you talking about? I think in grammar school I learned that using a pronoun without first stating the noun is not acceptable. So who is "that" guy?


[edit on 12-7-2006 by LAES YVAN]

by 25cents
The horrid grammar and spelling tend to make me disbelieve everything that guy says.

and

by LAES YVAN
Who are you talking about? I think in grammar school I learned that using a pronoun without first stating the noun is not acceptable. So who is "that" guy?

These are both off-topic comments. Please stick to the subject matter and desist such derailments.

School's out, IMHO...

sorry, i was referring to the article posted by the OP. i didn't mean to insinuate that i read past the first page of this thread.

and in that light, i feel that my post was just as on-topic as anyone elses. voicing my disbelief of the OP's provided material is in fact participating (while admittedly not contributing much to) in the discussion.

Here's my point of view on the ''german secret Moon base''(this is just MY opinion)

It would be really cool if it would be true but...the amout of time and man power to achieve such a great task would be too great for the rest of the world to just not notice anything right????

what about when we landed on the Moon??? would'nt there be some kind of evidence that humans have been building on it...and all the lauches it would have taken to transport all the equipment there also would've been detected somehow right??? even in the 40s and especialy in the later years with the radar technology we have now.....maybe I'm in over my head here but My opinion is that someone somewhere would have noticed something fof such a great task to have been accomplished.

Again I specify that it is just an opinion buuut it would be pretty cool

rocques22

After thinking about it for awhile, I started a little search on the web. Go check out this site

www.geocities.com...


according to what I read, there COULD be 5 E.T. bases on the Moon all with diferent purposes and 3 on Mars

This is great stuff

Check it out and let me know what your input is

rocques22

Originally posted by rocques22
Check it out and let me know what your input is

My input is that this is not the evidence we are looking for. Far from it actually and a very unconvincing read with "HOAX" written all over it.

Don´t get me wrong, I do believe there is at least one secret base on the (dark side of) the Moon, but the page you´ve presented is no where near convincing testimony of such a base, let alone multiple bases.

Originally posted by police_officer339
MAN!!!
Must be my name on here...

Everyone gets so emotional when I post even a complimentary posting..SHHHEESHH

Well Omega, I stand by your thought process and it stll fasinates me and I will continue to "google" to discover answers.

Lets try to remember that emotional responses to external stimuli deny any real discourse on any subject.

Dear lord, it's the POLICE! *hides in backyard under the children's plastic pool*

I just wanted to say that Ironman and Omega Red are two of my favorite characters. Kewl avatars. Now about the nazis flying to the Moon and the suicide mission to Mars. These are fascinating stories. For many years I have often wondered about the validity of these claims. Additionally I would like to say that even if they turn out to be falsehoods in our dimension due to the Super String Theory (Nova: Elegant Universe) it's possible that these events did take place in another dimension. Also, I can't believe that Hollywood hasn't presented us with a 100 million dollar movie based on these theories. Keep up the good work, Omega, it's very interesting material without a doubt.

I like your approach and obvious study of this subject it has opened my mind a little bit as you say smoke and mirrors who knows what actually going on. its this ability for free thinking that got me interested in this site tho.

Back to the point i read not to long ago about transcripts from apollo missions that had been classified or talked about in code about man made structures and alien spaceships on and around the moon. Apparently the apollo missions did take place the hoax was created to divert attention from what was really going on.

I cant find the original transcripts i read but i found this report which is quite revealing what do u think or has it already been posted? (sorry v long thread)

www.thothweb.com...

There is also an intresting report i found about an air force veteran who saw the very first pictures of a base on the dark side of the moon:

www.spds.nasa.gov...

[edit on 7-8-2006 by Argos]

I can appreciate Omega's enthusiam. I can also see some interesting points. I also look at some interesting news items about missing Apollo 11 "video" footage.
There was a group that used the F.O.I.A. to obtain evidence of the lab that sold NASA the high speed, High resolution film used in their camera's for the Mar's missions, and oddly enough they saw evidence that this same company sold similar file to NASA back as far as 1969. As you all know most of the images we've seen are stills. Not exactly high rez either. Then the moving footage we did see growing up was live 56k low res stuff. But it is a fact that NASA had high resolution, high speed devices they took to the moon. None of which has been seen by the public. I find it odd, that when a group used the Freedom of Informatino Act to push the issue and started asking about the film, NASA said it was "lost". Why would they say that if they have nothing to hide?
Also with that in mind, Can anybody idendify "exactly" what is in this astronauts hand???

I have no evidence, but I suspect that man will NEVER go back to the moon, and all attempts to do so will fail.

Food for thought:
Do any of you know the number of men that stepped on the moon?
Do you know the significance of that number?
Have you looked at what happened to those that did step on the moon when they came back?
Check the birth years of those that did step on the moon.
Then watch a little known movie called "Beyond the Stars"
What then happened to this rising star producer/writer after this movie?

Originally posted by johnlear
Oh, ah, jra, just one more thing. The photo below, alleged to be 69-HC-431, alleging to show the Apollo 10 command module seen from the LM in orbit 60 miles above the moon (I've alway wondered why they used 60 miles if the moon has 1/6th the earths gravity) seems to show a thick blue line on the horizon of the moon which would indicate a lunar atmosphere much denser than proposed in the above information. What is your opinion?

John, I'm really sorry to point this out to ya bro, but that's not a picture of the Moon you have there. It's a picture of the Earth. If you look closely, you can see clouds in the atmosphere of Earth at the time of the taking of the picture. I'm amazed that you do not see them, since you're sense of observation is so keen.

To illustrate, let me show you, yet again, the image taken just after that one.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

This picture CLEARLY shows clouds, in a very terrestrial sky. Besides, how else could they have gotten that picture, since they had to separate from the launch module before journeying to the Moon?

Sometimes, the simplest things elude people. I'll forgive ya this time, since I seem to be missing all of the other things you see on the Lunar surface.

TheBorg